Prospect Info: 2022-2023 Rangers Prospects Thread (Player Stats in Post #1; Updated 06.04.2023)

[RangersFan1994]

Othmann scored and he celebrated a little too much and got 2 and 10 unsportsmanlike penalty. With Bettman being involved in the NHL I won't be shocked if the NHL did this. Ugh

 

[egelband]

No joke. Brendon Clark is Gordie's kid and according to his Twitter he's now in software sales in Boston. Justin Sather was Glen's kid and it looks like his scouting career began and ended here, based on his EP profile. Marshall Davidson scouted in St. Louis, then Columbus, then here. I'll let you guess whose brother he is.

Chris Morehouse, who was our Director of North American Scouting before Drury started cleaning house, is JD's son in law. The nepotism really ran deep.

Don’t forget about our old Europe scout, August Lindbom.

 

[Kords]

Othmann scored and he celebrated a little too much and got 2 and 10 unsportsmanlike penalty. With Bettman being involved in the NHL I won't be shocked if the NHL did this. Ugh

Was against his old team Flint too. Kinda.... odd to do that to the team you were a Captain of a month ago.

Wanna see a video

 

[The Crypto Guy]

We need this video.

 

[nyr2k2]

Was against his old team Flint too. Kinda.... odd to do that to the team you were a Captain of a month ago.

Wanna see a video

Looks like he just skates past his own teammates so he can go yell something (presumably) at the Flint bench.

Othmann is an absolute dick, honestly. It's...not great, but could also be fine if he gets it under control. But shit like going at his old teammates like that (when he's losing, no less) and firing the puck into the opponent's bench and getting suspended like he did recently, he just needs to cut that shit out. I remember the thing with him supposedly acting stupid at the charity auction, I brushed that off as overblown, but it does seem like the guy has some maturity issues and he needs to work then out.

 

[JohnC]

Looks like he just skates past his own teammates so he can go yell something (presumably) at the Flint bench.

Othmann is an absolute dick, honestly. It's...not great, but could also be fine if he gets it under control. But shit like going at his old teammates like that (when he's losing, no less) and firing the puck into the opponent's bench and getting suspended like he did recently, he just needs to cut that shit out. I remember the thing with him supposedly acting stupid at the charity auction, I brushed that off as overblown, but it does seem like the guy has some maturity issues and he needs to work then out.

There comes a point when ‘swagger’ and ‘cockiness’ are really just being a tool bag.

The way Flint fans were describing Othmann’s toxic locker room presence should be concerning to anyone with even the slightest sense of rationality.

 

[RangersFan1994]

Looks like he just skates past his own teammates so he can go yell something (presumably) at the Flint bench.

Othmann is an absolute dick, honestly. It's...not great, but could also be fine if he gets it under control. But shit like going at his old teammates like that (when he's losing, no less) and firing the puck into the opponent's bench and getting suspended like he did recently, he just needs to cut that shit out. I remember the thing with him supposedly acting stupid at the charity auction, I brushed that off as overblown, but it does seem like the guy has some maturity issues and he needs to work then out.

I dont mind this at all. Some attitude on the Rangers would not be a bad thing. Hope he is more like a Tkachuk type and not a Avery who just gets in trouble with his mouth. either way attitude and passion is not a bad thing. Not like he is 26 doing this.

There comes a point when ‘swagger’ and ‘cockiness’ are really just being a tool bag.

The way Flint fans were describing Othmann’s toxic locker room presence should be concerning to anyone with even the slightest sense of rationality.

So you think if the Rangers had a Tkachuk type people would complain, I remember some complained about Avery Dubinsky Callahan mainly cause fans wanted Orr to fight all the battles havre them stay on the ice, etc. some passion and skill in a potential top 9 forward is not a bad thing to have especially when this team is considered soft.

 

[nyr2k2]

I dont mind this at all. Some attitude on the Rangers would not be a bad thing. Hope he is more like a Tkachuk type and not a Avery who just gets in trouble with his mouth. either way attitude and passion is not a bad thing. Not like he is 26 doing this.


So you think if the Rangers had a Tkachuk type people would complain, I remember some complained about Avery Dubinsky Callahan mainly cause fans wanted Orr to fight all the battles havre them stay on the ice, etc. some passion and skill in a potential top 9 forward is not a bad thing to have especially when this team is considered soft.

Again, he just came off a suspension for shooting the puck into the opponent's bench. He was just traded after apparently burning some bridges with Flint--they gave up one of the league's better players for little in return, just to move on from the situation. There have been plenty of other rumors about less than stellar behavior from the guy. And of course he's mysteriously left off the WJC roster.

I'm not saying he's a bad guy. He's young and he's immature. I like that he has an edge to him, but he needs to learn how to harness that. Damaging relationships with your own teammates, getting suspended for dumb shit, getting misconduct penalties for chirping when your team is trying to get back into the game...none of that is desirable. He just needs to grow up and learn how to be a dick the right way, and stay straddling the line instead of stepping over it.

 

[egelband]

This is alarming. We as fans tend to look at the optimistic side...'he's competitive', 'he isnt afraid to ruffle feathers', 'we need more jam'... and that's fine. we do need those things. but of course they could be signs of a guy who's gonna get himself and the team into hot water.
anyhow, i'll still hope it works itself out

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Looks like he just skates past his own teammates so he can go yell something (presumably) at the Flint bench.

Othmann is an absolute dick, honestly. It's...not great, but could also be fine if he gets it under control. But shit like going at his old teammates like that (when he's losing, no less) and firing the puck into the opponent's bench and getting suspended like he did recently, he just needs to cut that shit out. I remember the thing with him supposedly acting stupid at the charity auction, I brushed that off as overblown, but it does seem like the guy has some maturity issues and he needs to work then out.

He got a penalty..for that?

 

[Kords]

Yeah, theres a fine line between being a hockey dbag and a human dbag. If he can be the former than that is just what the doctor ordered for this team, but can't have the latter around the locker room. We'll see, he's young and every story has 2 sides.

If some of that cocky swagger rubs off on Laffy and he remembers his pedigree than more the better.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Yeah, theres a fine line between being a hockey dbag and a human dbag. If he can be the former than that is just what the doctor ordered for this team, but can't have the latter around the locker room. We'll see, he's young and every story has 2 sides.

If some of that cocky swagger rubs off on Laffy and he remembers his pedigree than more the better.

I wish Laffy would be as cocky on the ice as he is in the tunnel with his shitty dances.

 

[ColonialsHockey10]

No no guys he just celebrated that way because he misses his grandparents!

(Just messing with you, AK - the updates are incredibly interesting, please keep them coming)

 

[MrAlmost]

I really hope Othmann can put it together and not be a piece of shit. We need a good, young, elc player on this team next year. Play hard, play mean, but don't be a bad person. Once the horn blows, you gotta put it away.

 

[romba]

Every player feels how he does after being traded and scoring against your opponents, but they all manage to keep it inside. He has an issue where his emotions get the better of him.

Honestly though it wasn’t THAT big of a deal, I thought he was going to continue to his former bench for high 5’s which would have been epic. Shooting the puck into the opponents bench is a bit more concerning.

 

[I Eat Crow]

Berard quietly had a very good month. 11 points in 8 games.

 

[RangersFan1994]

Berard quietly had a very good month. 11 points in 8 games.

The surprise is Chmelar. I am not sure what to make of this prospect. Can be he the RW depth Rangers are looking for that is also good defensively. I hope he can be a Viktor Stalberg type for us down the road.

 

[nyr2k2]

Every player feels how he does after being traded and scoring against your opponents, but they all manage to keep it inside. He has an issue where his emotions get the better of him.

Honestly though it wasn’t THAT big of a deal, I thought he was going to continue to his former bench for high 5’s which would have been epic. Shooting the puck into the opponents bench is a bit more concerning.

Yeah the celebration thing on its own isn't a big deal IMO. It's just, you'd like to see him mentioned for his on-ice play and not this other stuff.

 

[kovazub94]

Yeah the celebration thing on its own isn't a big deal IMO. It's just, you'd like to see him mentioned for his on-ice play and not this other stuff.

But that’s just the thing. This let’s call it animosity is not new. We’ve known about the player’s wish to play close to home for a long time. For this whole time there was no public displays or offensive statements of any kind. What we saw was Othmann being a captain and carrying the team further than anyone expected. That’s should be the focus and not newly made up narrative about a character flaw. I understand though why the Rangers fans are apprehensive because of recent fiasco from Andersson and Kravtsov.

 

[Fitzy]

Dubinsky was a dick too. And JT Miller. As long as they don't get into Avery/Kane territory we can work with that.

 

[BS45]

Did I miss something with that video? I am still trying to see what was the unsportsmen like conduct penalty

 

[nyr2k2]

But that’s just the thing. This let’s call it animosity is not new. We’ve known about the player’s wish to play close to home for a long time. For this whole time there was no public displays or offensive statements of any kind. What we saw was Othmann being a captain and carrying the team further than anyone expected. That’s should be the focus and not newly made up narrative about a character flaw. I understand though why the Rangers fans are apprehensive because of recent fiasco from Andersson and Kravtsov.

To be clear, I don't think immaturity is a character flaw in a 19-year-old and I'm not trying to create a narrative.

There have been rumors about tensions between Othmann and the team since last season, and not just over him wanting to be moved. Talk of him acting out, off the ice and in the locker room. People complaining of him showing poorly on the bench. I dismissed all of that and never even mentioned it here because I don't like dealing in rumors. It's why when he was "rumored" to have acted like an asshole at the charity auction last season, I defended him and said it was sensationalized nonsense. Again, I'm not one who likes dragging teenagers through the mud based on whispers.

But those DID exist. People can go find them on Twitter or message boards and make up their own minds on whether that's true, but it's not something new. And then getting suspended for shooting a puck into the opponent's bench, that did just happen and is a real thing. Then this, while seemingly a bit overblown, at the end of the day he did something he didn't need to do for selfish reasons and it hurt his team.

Othmann is always a guy that has had an edge, and if he can control himself that edge could prove incredibly useful. But, given what's happened with him in the past month, I don't think it's unreasonable to take a step back and say this kid needs to do some work on himself if he's going to be successful moving forward.

Not trying to drag the kid. I like him and think he'll be a very good player. But he needs to grow up.

Did I miss something with that video? I am still trying to see what was the unsportsmen like conduct penalty

It's before he jumps into the glass, he skates over and gestures to and yells something at the Flint bench. Whether it was what he yelled or just the combination of the two things, the referees evidently determined it warranted a misconduct.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Anyone else that isn’t called, but like certain NHLers, he is given special treatment from the refs in a negative way. Whatever, was such a minor thing that of course is going to be blown out of proportion.

 

[nyr2k2]

Anyone else that isn’t called, but like certain NHLers, he is given special treatment from the refs in a negative way. Whatever, was such a minor thing that of course is going to be blown out of proportion.

That's not even remotely true and I'd love to know why you think it is.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

That's not even remotely true and I'd love to know why you think it is.

Because they made that soft ass call. I've seen players talk shit all the time after goals and it goes uncalled. It's not like he took his glove off and gave the whole bench the finger.