Prospect Info: 2022-2023 Rangers Prospects Thread (Player Stats in Post #1; Updated 06.04.2023)

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Yeah. He really bounced back nicely after a year where he was playing catch up all year due to his knee surgery.

May not have the flashy upside to be a top-6 prospect but a Brett Howden-type is possible. Hopefully with a less polarizing NHL career.
I told you guys he was playing on one leg last year. Definite prospect. Joel Otto type player (which would be great)
 

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He has real talent. I don't think he's a game breaker, not a blue chipper, but he has good middle six potential I think.

There is any comparison to JT Miller at the same stage in terms of what their games look like in their D+1 season?
Miller went 62 in 61 for Plymouth and the general consensus was that he'd be a handy 3rd liner/middle 6 forward.

Not expecting BMB to end up being a PPG player, but is 50+ a potential in his future?
 
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There is any comparison to JT Miller at the same stage in terms of what their games look like in their D+1 season?
Miller went 62 in 61 for Plymouth and the general consensus was that he'd be a handy 3rd liner/middle 6 forward.

Not expecting BMB to end up being a PPG player, but is 50+ a potential in his future?
Yeah there's definitely similarities. I think Miller was more of a traditional power forward-type prospect at that point, who always drove hard to the net, and liked doing the dirty work down low. He was also a dick, and pretty physical. I remember people questioned whether he really had the offensive instincts to make it as more than a 3C. Honestly, the fact that JT Miller ever became a 99-point player is kind of shocking, to me anyway.

BMB is good with his body but doesn't chase a hit like Miller does. I think he's also more responsible defensively. I'm admittedly not good with comps but my "upside" comparison for BMB is maybe like an Anthony Cirelli? 40-ish points, strong defense, good offensive instincts.
 

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For sure. He was my favorite pick of the draft. I think he's probably the best bet to be any kind of "impact" player for us. I like Sykora a lot and think he'll make it, I'm just not sure in what capacity.
I'm hoping for elite 3rd liner for both. That would be a massive win towards improving our depth.
 
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I’m really optimistic on the prospects in our system. Of course we won’t know the true tale until they step on an NHL ice surface and produce.
But I am curious, has Drury replaced all the amateur scouts that found these kids?
 

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I’m really optimistic on the prospects in our system. Of course we won’t know the true tale until they step on an NHL ice surface and produce.
But I am curious, has Drury replaced all the amateur scouts that found these kids?

Since Drury took over...

New:
Al Tuer
Shaone Morrisonn
Doug Gasper
Ernie Vargas
Pierre Rioux
Craig Channell

Gone:
Rich Brown
Brendon Clark
Daniel Doré
Kim Gellert
Oto Haščák
Justin Sather
Steve Konowalchuk
Jamie Herrington
Marshall Davidson
 

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Since Drury took over...

New:
Al Tuer
Shaone Morrisonn
Doug Gasper
Ernie Vargas
Pierre Rioux
Craig Channell

Gone:
Rich Brown
Brendon Clark
Daniel Doré
Kim Gellert
Oto Haščák
Justin Sather
Steve Konowalchuk
Jamie Herrington
Marshall Davidson
Wow, this is disconcerting. Hope these scouts are good judges of talent and not just Drury’s best buddies from back in the day.
 

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The fact Justin Sather, Brendon Clark (assuming related to Gordi) and Marshall Davidson are gone is a good step. Nepotism...
Yeah, and really, the Rangers scouting under Gorton seemed to be a mixed bag. I don't have a problem with the churn. I'm sure some of the new guys are also part of Drury's club, but that's unfortunately just how it works. Gorton and Clark had "their guys" as well.
 
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Yeah, and really, the Rangers scouting under Gorton seemed to be a mixed bag. I don't have a problem with the churn. I'm sure some of the new guys are also part of Drury's club, but that's unfortunately just how it works. Gorton and Clark had "their guys" as well.

You’re 100x the prospect watched than I am. How would you consider drus drafting so far? Def weird choices imo, esp the later rounds besides bmb. Laba seems intriguing so far, but the other overage draft picks were pretty groans for me.
 
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Yeah there's definitely similarities. I think Miller was more of a traditional power forward-type prospect at that point, who always drove hard to the net, and liked doing the dirty work down low. He was also a dick, and pretty physical. I remember people questioned whether he really had the offensive instincts to make it as more than a 3C. Honestly, the fact that JT Miller ever became a 99-point player is kind of shocking, to me anyway.

BMB is good with his body but doesn't chase a hit like Miller does. I think he's also more responsible defensively. I'm admittedly not good with comps but my "upside" comparison for BMB is maybe like an Anthony Cirelli? 40-ish points, strong defense, good offensive instincts.
I've been ecstatic with the tear BMB's been on lately because I knew there was a better player there when he was struggling during the beginning of the season. I wouldn't say that he has a power forward aspect to his game, but rather that he's more cerebral with his positioning and knows how to find open areas of the ice. He is efficient around the net, but I think that's more because of his smarts than him bullrushing through people.

If I had to compare him to someone, I think the most apt comparison would be Jared McCann. He has a lot of the same qualities, and it wouldn't shock me if he ends up popping a bit later into his career just like McCann has done recently.
 

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You’re 100x the prospect watched than I am. How would you consider drus drafting so far? Def weird choices imo, esp the later rounds besides bmb. Laba seems intriguing so far, but the other overage draft picks were pretty groans for me.
Well 2021 is tough, since he only took over as GM like a month or two before the draft. So all the scouts, the intel, that was all mainly the byproduct of the previous regime. But, he was also part of that regime and ultimately responsible at the end of the day.

Othmann wasn't my pick but is looking like a potentially really good one. Grubbe isn't a sexy prospect but could also be a really good player for a long time. I'm okay with taking a guy like him on that spot and not obsessing over perceived "upside" in some guy that's unlikely to ever come close to reaching it. And I think that's a trend with Drury, that he's okay taking lower-upside guys if he thinks they have a more clear path to becoming an NHL player. At the same time, in that draft guys like Chmelar, Vaisanen, and Lamb were upside picks, and Chmelar in particular is showing a lot of promise. Even Boyko and Kempf are somewhat interesting.

This last draft, too early to say. I think the early returns are generally positive. I haven't been impressed with Barbashev who isn't as involved as you'd want him to be, but BMB looks very good, Laba has looked good when I've watched. Karpa and Mancini I haven't really seen much of but Karpa at least is producing some numbers. Sykora is in that mold of players that Drury isn't afraid to take, maybe not having the enormous upside but having some clearly defined skills that put him on a good path to becoming an NHLer.

If we count "Drury's drafts" as the last two, it's of course too early to know for sure, but I see far more that I like than not.
 

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Since Drury took over...

New:
Al Tuer
Shaone Morrisonn
Doug Gasper
Ernie Vargas
Pierre Rioux
Craig Channell

Gone:
Rich Brown
Brendon Clark
Daniel Doré
Kim Gellert
Oto Haščák
Justin Sather
Steve Konowalchuk
Jamie Herrington
Marshall Davidson

Please tell me the Sather and Clark inclusions were jokes you sprinkled in.

The “in Gordie we trust” crowd continues to look worse and worse.
 
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Please tell me the Sather and Clark inclusions were jokes you sprinkled in.

The “in Gordie we trust” continues to look worse and worse.
No joke. Brendon Clark is Gordie's kid and according to his Twitter he's now in software sales in Boston. :laugh: Justin Sather was Glen's kid and it looks like his scouting career began and ended here, based on his EP profile. Marshall Davidson scouted in St. Louis, then Columbus, then here. I'll let you guess whose brother he is.

Chris Morehouse, who was our Director of North American Scouting before Drury started cleaning house, is JD's son in law. The nepotism really ran deep.
 

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No joke. Brendon Clark is Gordie's kid and according to his Twitter he's now in software sales in Boston. :laugh: Justin Sather was Glen's kid and it looks like his scouting career began and ended here, based on his EP profile. Marshall Davidson scouted in St. Louis, then Columbus, then here. I'll let you guess whose brother he is.

Chris Morehouse, who was our Director of North American Scouting before Drury started cleaning house, is JD's son in law. The nepotism really ran deep.

This is truly unbelievable.

And yet, there are still some good posters on this board that continued to assert that the Rangers don’t have a drafting and development issue. Just mindblowing stuff.
 

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This is truly unbelievable.

And yet, there are still some good posters on this board that continued to assert that the Rangers don’t have a drafting and development issue. Just mindblowing stuff.
Funny enough, I think the European scouting has been the weakest link and I doubt Sather, Clark, or Moorehouse spent much time on the other side of the pond. It’s way too early to know, but so far I’m mostly happy with Drury’s drafts. I do think he’ll value character a bit more so I think you’re less likely to get some of the head cases we’ve had lately.
 

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Well 2021 is tough, since he only took over as GM like a month or two before the draft. So all the scouts, the intel, that was all mainly the byproduct of the previous regime. But, he was also part of that regime and ultimately responsible at the end of the day.

Othmann wasn't my pick but is looking like a potentially really good one. Grubbe isn't a sexy prospect but could also be a really good player for a long time. I'm okay with taking a guy like him on that spot and not obsessing over perceived "upside" in some guy that's unlikely to ever come close to reaching it. And I think that's a trend with Drury, that he's okay taking lower-upside guys if he thinks they have a more clear path to becoming an NHL player. At the same time, in that draft guys like Chmelar, Vaisanen, and Lamb were upside picks, and Chmelar in particular is showing a lot of promise. Even Boyko and Kempf are somewhat interesting.

This last draft, too early to say. I think the early returns are generally positive. I haven't been impressed with Barbashev who isn't as involved as you'd want him to be, but BMB looks very good, Laba has looked good when I've watched. Karpa and Mancini I haven't really seen much of but Karpa at least is producing some numbers. Sykora is in that mold of players that Drury isn't afraid to take, maybe not having the enormous upside but having some clearly defined skills that put him on a good path to becoming an NHLer.

If we count "Drury's drafts" as the last two, it's of course too early to know for sure, but I see far more that I like than not.
This makes a lot of sense because one of Drury’s earliest catch phase’s was that every player must have a role, and must know what his role is every time he goes over the boards.
 
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I just posted in the Roster Building thread yesterday about the awful nepotism in this org with the Gorton and JD regime. It goes back further than that, however.

I have looked into the people at the helm now, and the scouts, though not that closely. On the surface they seem to be much more in the vein of professional scouts and directors. Many have worked for other teams for years before being here and that is, to me at least, a small step in the right direction. I still support this Org flexing its unmatched financial muscle to create the largest scouting department, as well as skills, fitness, nutrition and education departments. That last one is to help teach young players how to invest their money, etc..

Also, they should put more money into Hartford. Hartford consistently has the worst stream quality compared to most other teams in the AHL and that is just the first thing in my head as I am watching game highlight with no f***ing sound. Haha
 
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