Prospect Info: 2022-2023 Rangers Prospects Thread (Player Stats in Post #1; Updated 06.04.2023)

[BS45]

I read something here yesterday about Berard and my son had similar comments after he went to the game on Friday night. I was under the opinion that he played an annoying, attacking/ pest like game and was a spark plug all over the ice but my son said after watching him on Friday night he did not see anything like that. He said he was kinda floating around the ice looking for scoring chances and appeared lazy to him at times. Which is Berard ?

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Lmao I don't understand what the issue is, just that it seems he didn't have a great weekend. Do you have any great insight into how he played this weekend or?

Read the post above mine.

 

[cwede]

Berard, Cuylle and/or Othmann could be ready as early as next season, but for the rest, I think it will be a few years.

IMHO, I won't be surprised if Henriksson might get here ahead of 1 or 2 of above.
Not just because he might play C, but because, while not eye-catching, he has good fundamentals, and plays well with a variety of line-mates.
I know the - what did someone post this weekend - box score scouts? - may disagree.
But the Swedish Nat'l team liked him with Raymond and Holtz for a reason.
And he's had 90+ games in SHL.
Also game reports of recent Pack games have been complimentary (i have not watched)

 

[RagFinMet]

I read something here yesterday about Berard and my son had similar comments after he went to the game on Friday night. I was under the opinion that he played an annoying, attacking/ pest like game and was a spark plug all over the ice but my son said after watching him on Friday night he did not see anything like that. He said he was kinda floating around the ice looking for scoring chances and appeared lazy to him at times. Which is Berard ?

Another forward the Ranger organization ruined

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Jayden Grubbe is having a nice start to the season and I am one of the people who criticized his performance a lot last season. However, he looks different. After talking to someone close to him about his preparation this season it's clear why.

For Grubbe, the prospect development camp in late July and subsequent training camp in September with the Rangers were a huge reason why he took a step in his development. Unlike last year, where he spent most of his time rehabbing and getting back to full fitness, this off-season he was able to participate in a lot of activities that he couldn't last year.

Looking forward to seeing what else he can do. His NHL rights expire June 1st, 2023.

 

[romba]

I read something here yesterday about Berard and my son had similar comments after he went to the game on Friday night. I was under the opinion that he played an annoying, attacking/ pest like game and was a spark plug all over the ice but my son said after watching him on Friday night he did not see anything like that. He said he was kinda floating around the ice looking for scoring chances and appeared lazy to him at times. Which is Berard ?

Uhoh

 

[Clark Kellogg]

IMHO, I won't be surprised if Henriksson might get here ahead of 1 or 2 of above.
Not just because he might play C, but because, while not eye-catching, he has good fundamentals, and plays well with a variety of line-mates.
I know the - what did someone post this weekend - box score scouts? - may disagree.
But the Swedish Nat'l team liked him with Raymond and Holtz for a reason.
And he's had 90+ games in SHL.
Also game reports of recent Pack games have been complimentary (i have not watched)

For me Henriksson passes the eye test.
For what it’s worth I’d put good money on him playing in the NHL. If not with us then in another club.
Always in position, defensively responsible good puck management and excellent vision.
A poor man’s Jesper Fast who plays Centre.

 

[nyr2k2]

I still have many doubts about Henriksson. He's small, he's not strong, and while he's quick and nimble, he's not fast. The production is never there despite what you think/hope you see in him. To me he looks like a guy that's back in Sweden in a couple seasons.

Berard probably should have turned pro based on where he was at developmentally, but he wanted to play with his brother or whatever, so that's fine. He's too good to not put up numbers with Providence this season (who are very good overall), even if he's not as focused as he was last year.

EDIT: Not trying to be a Negative Nancy with Henriksson. Anyone who reads my posts knows I've just never seen it with him. His game has improved over the past few years but offensively, beyond showing the occasional in-game glimpse of the skill that he does have, it just hasn't materialized. Even if he's smart and plays a 200-foot game, if he's not producing offense, it's going to be tough sledding for him at his size in the NHL.

 

[RangersFan1994]

Jayden Grubbe is having a nice start to the season and I am one of the people who criticized his performance a lot last season. However, he looks different. After talking to someone close to him about his preparation this season it's clear why.

For Grubbe, the prospect development camp in late July and subsequent training camp in September with the Rangers were a huge reason why he took a step in his development. Unlike last year, where he spent most of his time rehabbing and getting back to full fitness, this off-season he was able to participate in a lot of activities that he couldn't last year.

Looking forward to seeing what else he can do. His NHL rights expire June 1st, 2023.

Rangers should resign him for center depth alone. Rangers can use a physical center with size and leadership abilities

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Some "blast from the past" names here

 

[pld459666]

Jayden Grubbe is having a nice start to the season and I am one of the people who criticized his performance a lot last season. However, he looks different. After talking to someone close to him about his preparation this season it's clear why.

For Grubbe, the prospect development camp in late July and subsequent training camp in September with the Rangers were a huge reason why he took a step in his development. Unlike last year, where he spent most of his time rehabbing and getting back to full fitness, this off-season he was able to participate in a lot of activities that he couldn't last year.

Looking forward to seeing what else he can do. His NHL rights expire June 1st, 2023.

Rangers are absolutely signing this kid.

 

[cwede]

Rangers should resign him for center depth alone. Rangers can use a physical center with size and leadership abilities

Rangers are absolutely signing this kid.

NYR sign Grubbe March 1(+) so his deal starts fall'23
and he comes to Hartford on ATO as soon as his Junior season ends

 

[nyr2k2]

There has never been any question about whether the Rangers would sign Grubbe. They knew about his knee when they drafted him. There's always a realistic chance with knee injuries in hockey that guys just don't make it back. But they used the 65th pick on him because they liked what he could be and were going to give him every opportunity to get there. This was never in doubt.

I wouldn't put a ton of stock into his offensive performance this year--that's not really his game and almost certainly won't be moving forward. He's almost 20 and this kind of output on a juggernaut team is in the range of what you'd expect from an NHL-caliber prospect. The biggest positive is that he's clearly back to 100% and the knee isn't holding him back. Assuming he doesn't have any kind of setback with the knee, he has a real chance to be an effective bottom-six player in a few years.

Again, though, while he's not signed yet, that's only a question of when--not if.

 

[eco's bones]

Some "blast from the past" names here

Morrison if I remember is on the autistic spectrum. Which is to say 'hockey is for everyone' and if there's a will there's a way. People can go overcome all kinds of obstacles.

 

[eco's bones]

There has never been any question about whether the Rangers would sign Grubbe. They knew about his knee when they drafted him. There's always a realistic chance with knee injuries in hockey that guys just don't make it back. But they used the 65th pick on him because they liked what he could be and were going to give him every opportunity to get there. This was never in doubt.

I wouldn't put a ton of stock into his offensive performance this year--that's not really his game and almost certainly won't be moving forward. He's almost 20 and this kind of output on a juggernaut team is in the range of what you'd expect from an NHL-caliber prospect. The biggest positive is that he's clearly back to 100% and the knee isn't holding him back. Assuming he doesn't have any kind of setback with the knee, he has a real chance to be an effective bottom-six player in a few years.

Again, though, while he's not signed yet, that's only a question of when--not if.

Yeah his path to the NHL is big bodied gritty do whatever it takes bottom line center. I don't think he's a guaranteed but I do think he has a legit shot at doing that.

 

[cwede]

Morrison if I remember is on the autistic spectrum. Which is to say 'hockey is for everyone' and if there's a will there's a way. People can go overcome all kinds of obstacles.

for a guy who's done 'not much' since draft day,
Morrison has some interesting Transactions
signed to ELC by LA after overage WHL season (NYR rights expired in '17)
IIRC correctly, the Florida deal (maybe the Maatta one too) were to balance in/out contracts

(also, FYI, IIRC, Reid Duke was actually the very first player on the expansion Vegas reserve list, signed as UDFA prior to both Expansion draft and UFA frenzy dates )

 

[RangersFan1994]

Both Barbashev and Grubbe are playing tonight

 

[RangersFan1994]

Barbashev scores on the Powerplay

 

[Antiillafire]

Some "blast from the past" names here

That line was absolutely awful in Nitra’s last game . I’ve been quite disappointed in how Sykora has played over the past 3-4 games. Lacks engagement and seems to be just cruising. Could be partially motivated by Nitra’s overall inability to score. I don’t get the call to the mens NT, he needs to be playing with the U20 team.

 

[BS45]

Last night Red Deer (15-1) lost 7-4 to Winnipeq (16-1). Jayden Grubbe had an assist, went 9 for 14 on faceoffs and was +3 for the night. Red Deer gave up 4 power play goals in the game but thought it was telling to the player Grubbe will be that in a playoff like game he was +3 and 9 for 14 on faceoffs.

 

[Barnaby]

For me Henriksson passes the eye test.
For what it’s worth I’d put good money on him playing in the NHL. If not with us then in another club.
Always in position, defensively responsible good puck management and excellent vision.
A poor man’s Jesper Fast who plays Centre.

A poor man’s Jesper Fast isn’t exactly what one would be hoping for…

 

[The Crypto Guy]

A poor man’s Jesper Fast isn’t exactly what one would be hoping for…

At this point, if he even becomes a regular in the NHL i'd be completely shocked and call it a HUGE success.

But, I just can't see him becoming a regular NHL player. Even ignoring the size issue, he doesn't appear to bring anything to the table to make him stand out and deserve an NHL spot.

 

[nyr2k2]

Hugo Ollas stopped 33 shots including 17 in the 3rd period for his first shutout of the season.

 

[Barnaby]

At this point, if he even becomes a regular in the NHL i'd be completely shocked and call it a HUGE success.

But, I just can't see him becoming a regular NHL player. Even ignoring the size issue, he doesn't appear to bring anything to the table to make him stand out and deserve an NHL spot.

Agreed. Not that I’m any type of draft guru, but I was down on that pick as soon as they made it. I didn’t get using a 2nd round pick on a small center with no elite traits. You want to throw a dart late? That’s fine, but they’ve used premium picks on a lot of failed Swedes… Lindbom annd Lias to name a couple more. Outside of maybe Nils (and I was lukewarm on that one too), their Swedish scouting has left a lot to be desired. How many times do you have to go back to the well before you realize the people scouting those areas aren’t pulling their weight.

I will say that I’m fairly confident Drury will improve the team draft philosophy.

 

[Barnaby]

Karpa is off to a nice start with 3 goals and 4 points in 4 games.

Is Karpa a legit prospect? I remember reading some draft day stuff on him that made him out to be an after thought.