Prospect Info: 2022-2023 Rangers Prospects Thread (Player Stats in Post #1; Updated 06.04.2023)

[mike14]

Is PPG 1st liner realistic?

I'm terrible with player projections, and am slightly scarred by the fact that neither our #1 or #2 OA picks look like ppg players yet, but I'm not sure he'll ever be a consistent ppg guy.
More like a Nash type where he should be flirting with 40g a season and ending up somewhere around 65-75 pts depending on the circumstances.

So annoying we couldn't get him any time with the Pack this season

 

[SnowblindNYR]

I'm terrible with player projections, and am slightly scarred by the fact that neither our #1 or #2 OA picks look like ppg players yet, but I'm not sure he'll ever be a consistent ppg guy.
More like a Nash type where he should be flirting with 40g a season and ending up somewhere around 65-75 pts depending on the circumstances.

So annoying we couldn't get him any time with the Pack this season

Honestly, on a line with Panarin and Trochek if he got #1 PP unit time I think Laf could be PPG as early as this season, maybe next. Kid looks dynamic out there. He's a big reason why the Rangers look more dangerous (even yesterday) than at any point in recent memory. Kakko to me looks like a very good grinder. Like an excellent role player that helps his linemates out but is never going to wow you with his stats. But he's a very good option on the top line regardless. He's like a bigger much more offensively capable Fast.

 

[mike14]

Honestly, on a line with Panarin and Trochek if he got #1 PP unit time I think Laf could be PPG as early as this season, maybe next. Kid looks dynamic out there. He's a big reason why the Rangers look more dangerous (even yesterday) than at any point in recent memory. Kakko to me looks like a very good grinder. Like an excellent role player that helps his linemates out but is never going to wow you with his stats. But he's a very good option on the top line regardless. He's like a bigger much more offensively capable Fast.

They're definitely getting there, but it does highlight how difficult it is to be a ppg player and long it might take. Similarly to those two, i doubt Othmann sees much PP time in his first few years here.

But to th original question, if Miller and his immediate post-draft skill set can be a ppg player, then there's no reason why Othmann can't go at least close based on what we've seen so far

 

[SnowblindNYR]

They're definitely getting there, but it does highlight how difficult it is to be a ppg player and long it might take. Similarly to those two, i doubt Othmann sees much PP time in his first few years here.

But to th original question, if Miller and his immediate post-draft skill set can be a ppg player, then there's no reason why Othmann can't go at least close based on what we've seen so far

The Rangers just happen to have 4 of the best PP players in the league on the same team and for like the guy in the bumper role to be center. I'm assuming so that they have two faceoff guys on the ice.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Is PPG 1st liner realistic?

I don’t know if I would say “realistic” but it certainly could be his ceiling. I think he can become a 60-65 pointer scorer (still 1st liner) with a strong physical edge to his game. I’m not sure he becomes an 80 point scorer but i’d love to be wrong.

 

[Leetch3]

 

[romba]

Is PPG 1st liner realistic?

Very few prospects have realistic PPG expectations. We want to see Othmann dominate his league this year, he already was a top player last year, didn’t look out of place at camp and preseason at the NHL level (just a bit physically over-matched), so gaudy numbers are the expectations playing against kids one last time this year.

I’d project him as a complimentary 1st liner, or play driving second liner.

 

[2014nyr]

I'm terrible with player projections, and am slightly scarred by the fact that neither our #1 or #2 OA picks look like ppg players yet, but I'm not sure he'll ever be a consistent ppg guy.
More like a Nash type where he should be flirting with 40g a season and ending up somewhere around 65-75 pts depending on the circumstances.

So annoying we couldn't get him any time with the Pack this season

was never anything wrong with our top 2 picks, circumstances that provided less opportunity than most top 2 picks tend to get early have kept them from producing more to date but both look fantastic this year after thriving in a deep playoff run. both could easily find themselves in the 60+ pt range this season. guys lighting it up at 18/19 are the rare exception not the expectation....ton of examples like barkov mackinnon laine hischier svech dahlin have taken as much or more time to look like they player they were drafted to be. some were closer sooner, but bottom line is looks like the kids are taking off now and laf almost certainly looks like a 70-90pt guy. i like kakkos chances personally but not as sure a thing. and both can play heavy, playoff style hockey...no scarring there for sure. woulda been great to get a generational guy, coulda ended up with yakupov and nolan patrick types too.

as for othmann, i dont see him spending any time in the ahl unless he outright gets beat out for spots next year, he wont get anything out of it. ahl is beehive hockey, hes got a great hockey iq and understands spacing / positioning. having him as a callup option would be nice this year, but spending time in that league hed probably get caught up in the chippy running around stuff because theres no structural play and rack up 150 pims. personally think hes better off trying to hit 150 pts in the o and really developing as a leader

 

[The Crypto Guy]

BMB with 2 goals yesterday. Good last 3 games for him with 2G/3A.

Othmann was finally held off the scoresheet yesterday.

 

[cwede]

... as for othmann, i dont see him spending any time in the ahl unless he outright gets beat out for spots next year, he wont get anything out of it. ahl is beehive hockey ...

Just me.
But i dont think that's likely.
Or wise.

Kreider, DelZotto, Chytil all had Pack time.

I always believe the few months McD spent in Hartford had him most very ready for NHL, and once up, he never looked back

Othmann will still be very young in a year.
How soon is not as important as how ready.

 

[RangersFan1994]

Othmann has his 7th goal of the season 1-1 right now 1st period

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Add an assist to Othmann. 2-2 after 1.

 

[2014nyr]

Just me.
But i dont think that's likely.
Or wise.

Kreider, DelZotto, Chytil all had Pack time.

I always believe the few months McD spent in Hartford had him most very ready for NHL, and once up, he never looked back

Othmann will still be very young in a year.
How soon is not as important as how ready.

i hear you, nothing wrong with seeing things differently. to clarify though, its not my view that we should force feed him to the nhl. if he doesnt earn a spot outta camp next year then i'd agree he start in hfd. i do believe he will grab a spot though - could be wrong there, just how i see it playing out - the only thing i dont like about hfd is his game is so much better suited to the nhl. ahl plays this chaotic beehive style with lots of moving pucks to areas and chasing them down versus the structure and skill of the nhl. as long as hes physically ready i just see his game as nhl ready, so if he earns a spot i wouldnt see any need to let him start in the ahl for the sake of it. he'll take to the nhl game like a fish to water

 

[Leetch3]

 

[rangersfansince08]

own goal?

 

[BS45]

So is he a grinder type?

yes, he is. Think he will start on the fourth line but will develop into an top notch shut down 3rd line center who is really tough to play against.

 

[RangersFan1994]

yes, he is. Think he will start on the fourth line but will develop into an top notch shut down 3rd line center who is really tough to play against.

Barbashev Grubbe Sykora not a bad 3 line with skill and physical play.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

Jayden Grubbe interview from 3 weeks ago. Must be slippin’

 

[Antiillafire]

Sykora with another assist in Nitra’s game yesterday. He also played 21 minutes. He really is getting a ton of ice time like Nitra promised. Also playing C, will be interesting to see if he continues playing there. I wonder if we could see him as 1C for Slovakia at the WJC

 

[RangersFan1994]

Just me.
But i dont think that's likely.
Or wise.

Kreider, DelZotto, Chytil all had Pack time.

I always believe the few months McD spent in Hartford had him most very ready for NHL, and once up, he never looked back

Othmann will still be very young in a year.
How soon is not as important as how ready.

True but Derek Stepan at 20 never spent time in the AHL. If he is 100% ready, he will make the team. If he has to work on a few things for a few weeks in the AHL, I see nothing wrong with that.

 

[egelband]

Impressive hug. Embraced the eff out of that guy!

 

[Leetch3]

 

[Ola]

Feds was legit. 360+ points in 860+ games. He was always a good third line player wherever he was. If Chmelar became anything resembling Fedotenko, that would be a grand f***ing slam.

That said I've never been good with player comparisons, so IDK what to offer on that.

Anyone remember those “…because it’s the Cup” Stan made a few years ago? The one about Tampa is a classic, how Calgary focused on MSL, “…and in steps… Ruslan Fedetenko and scores two goals.”

Anyway, Feds won a Cup with Pittsburgh too in the same role. A really smart and valuable role player.

 

[RangersFan1994]

Anyone remember those “…because it’s the Cup” Stan made a few years ago? The one about Tampa is a classic, how Calgary focused on MSL, “…and in steps… Ruslan Fedetenko and scores two goals.”

Anyway, Feds won a Cup with Pittsburgh too in the same role. A really smart and valuable role player.

He was one of the better 3rd and 4th liners in the league when he played and skilled enough to play with skilled players. One of the underrated forwards in the history of the NHL, he was that good. Never drafted and Flyers signed him but gave up on him too soon in my opinion.

 

[nyr2k2]

Huge Ol' Ass stopped 30/31 in a 6-1 win tonight.