Speculation: 2022-2023 General Lightning Discussion - Part 2

[ccman68]

Lafferty has the most shorthanded goals in the NHL. Sam also has size, speed, and term. He would be an awesome addition.

sure some shorthanded goals would be nice but we have way bigger needs. we just got rid of pk specialist mathieu joseph last year idk why we would now go for another one.

 

[DistantThunderRep]

Nino for a Second next year seems like such a reasonable deal.

 

[Felonious Python]

sure some shorthanded goals would be nice but we have way bigger needs. we just got rid of pk specialist mathieu joseph last year idk why we would now go for another one.

we didn't win the cup

As for the importance of PKs, think about pretty much any game in the later rounds.

 

[These Are The Days]

What's it like to just have everyone slobbering on your jock at all times? I really wanna know Rangers. Jesus dude. Every sport with this NYC shit

 

[DFC]

we didn't win the cup

As for the importance of PKs, think about pretty much any game in the later rounds.

Hell, think about Auston Matthews in Rd 1.

What's it like to just have everyone slobbering on your jock at all times? I really wanna know Rangers. Jesus dude. Every sport with this NYC shit

Players seem to love it there. It's been like this in hockey since I can remember. There were guys 20 years ago claiming they would only play for the Rangers, or wanting to play for the Rangers. Hell, I feel like it might have started with Gretzky.

 

[Point21]

Kinda surprised JBB hasnt made a move yet. worried he waits too long and misses out on a move

 

[RussianGuyovich]

What's it like to just have everyone slobbering on your jock at all times? I really wanna know Rangers. Jesus dude. Every sport with this NYC shit

But the unfair tax advantage of tampa!

 

[Felonious Python]

Kinda surprised JBB hasnt made a move yet. worried he waits too long and misses out on a move

There are plenty of moves that can be made.

While JBB does seem to go and get the guy he wants, it's also apparently a buyer's market this year.

 

[JoVel]

What's it like to just have everyone slobbering on your jock at all times? I really wanna know Rangers. Jesus dude. Every sport with this NYC shit

Should've built a better city I guess.

 

[These Are The Days]

Should've built a better city I guess.

The cap and term limits are literally the only thing keeping the NYR from having a $335 million payroll and 6 guys on those ridiculous 12 year $100 million deals

I wish I was kidding

 

[Felonious Python]

The cap and term limits are literally the only thing keeping the NYR from having a $335 million payroll and 6 guys on those ridiculous 12 year $100 million deals

I wish I was kidding

I kind of feel like they maybe learned a bit from the pre-cap years when they had the highest payroll and achieved nothing.

Vegas is probably the successor to that style (although more successful).

 

[DFC]

I kind of feel like they maybe learned a bit from the pre-cap years when they had the highest payroll and achieved nothing.

Vegas is probably the successor to that style (although more successful).

Yeah, the years directly before the cap came in were pretty crazy with NY signing top name after top name. It was like the retirement home for superstars.

 

[Felonious Python]

Yeah, the years directly before the cap came in were pretty crazy with NY signing top name after top name. It was like the retirement home for superstars.

The Rangers signed Bobby Holik in 2002 for $9 million a year. The previous summer, he had gone to arbitration and been awarded $3.5 million

 

[Zwui21]

The team is averaging over 3.5 GF/G, the highest average since the '18-'19 team. They have the personnel and the ability to have goal scoring from more than one line, if they find the right mix. They don't have the assets for a Kane, who from most speculation wants NYR or nothing, nor Meier, who S.J. is apparently wanting a king's ransom for. Tampa acquired their top 6 scoring winger last year with Hagel anyway, and without a '23 or '24 1st, Tampa doesn't have the high end picks soon enough nor the.blue chip prospects to pull off a big fish. They have had a top 5 offense for most of the season as well, while their defense has dropped to middle of the pack from a usual top 5-10 position.



The ability is there to grab 1-2 middle/bottom 6 forwards, some with term, some ufa's. There are also at least half a dozen dmen that could be of help and could fit, if JBB can move out a couple cap hits(Names+Myers ideally, but Names+Foote also probably works). Although dmen do usually take longer to adjust, having that additional depth on the blueline is always helpful, especially given that there always seems to be somebody banged up in that group. I agree that if Hedman doesn't elevate the defensive side of his game it likely won't matter what 4/5 or 5/6 type dman they might get.



I don't agree with burning through much of what they have left for a ufa they can't keep, at least not this season. If they can land a scoring winger with term that they can afford perhaps things are different(not sure how many of those are available). Tampa's window isn't closed after this run, so I'd use lesser assets and picks to boost the bottom 6 and maybe the defense in an attempt to, as JBB said, "make them tougher to play against."

Yeah I should revisit what I wrote there, the fact of hearing big names floating around went to my head and wrote some short sighted stuff.
I see what you mean and I tend to agree with what you say, I also probably worded out my thoughts poorly.

I know we cannot make a huge spalsh, but adding some middle 6 players that can provide speed, grit but also offensive upside... Someone that can chip in on the scoresheet as well would be huge for us, in order to diversify our scoring production as much as we can.

But obviously being in a tight cap it isn't easy, having little assets means we gotta try and manage them with care.
IMO Barbashev would be very interesting, if we could afford to re-sign him this summer (which would likely be very difficult).

Otherwise at this point Lafferty seems the obvious play, not only for what he brings on the ice but also for his low cap AAV until end of next season.
But then, will JBB get another F to bolster our top6 or rather go and add someone for the Dcore?
I'd pay good money to be able to follow JBB and the staff discussions and though process the month leading up to the deadline.

 

[Zwui21]

Honestly hope we get Laffery.
He's been decent on an horrible CHI team, if put on our third line I could see him take the step forward and pay dividends.
And his 1.15M AAV for another season would be golden for us.
Get it done JFBB

 

[ccman68]

how about nick bonino? feel like a center would be more useful than a winger. shouldn’t be too expensive either

 

[ccman68]

if we need defense the sharks have matt benning signed at 1.25 until 2026 which would be good value. idk if they would want to trade him though

 

[Stormbreaker]

 

[Five Alarm Fire]

Damn that's too bad, I know he was a popular target here. Brisebois has always made his trades early, wonder when we'll pull the trigger on someone. Lafferty?

 

[LightningStrikes]

Another one off the list. That leaves Lafferty and uh… Schenn?

 

[Felonious Python]

Another one off the list. That leaves Lafferty and uh… Schenn?

I guess that leaves us with the consolation prizes of Kane, Meier, Chychrun, Hayes, and Karlsson.

 

[DFC]

Another one off the list. That leaves Lafferty and uh… Schenn?

I'll bet that's the plan. Usually JBB's moves come out of left field, but Lafferty's contract is like JBB bait. And if Schenn's price has lowered to a 3rd (rumored to be a 1st last month), I dont see how we aren't talking to them. Maybe try to get them down to a 4th.

 

[Hammerlik]

Nick Seeler would be interesting if we decide we need a D. 775k cap hit for the next season too.

 

[DistantThunderRep]

how about nick bonino? feel like a center would be more useful than a winger. shouldn’t be too expensive either

Hell no to Bonino.

I'll bet that's the plan. Usually JBB's moves come out of left field, but Lafferty's contract is like JBB bait. And if Schenn's price has lowered to a 3rd (rumored to be a 1st last month), I dont see how we aren't talking to them. Maybe try to get them down to a 4th.

Yeah this seems reasonable.

Unless we get Kane and Meier.

 

[Stammertime91]

Sharks are asking for a 1st, a prospect and a roster player for Meier. New Jersey is the front runner per Pagnotta. So, I don't think we are in it for him.

A week ago I would've said Lafferty and somebody else like Domi/Barbashev would have really helped us and moved the needle but right now given what Boston and Toronto have done, how good those teams already are, I'm not sure two middle six defensive type wingers move the needle. I mean, who knows, but I feel like both Boston and Toronto made smarter moves this year.

As it stands, we are going to struggle on the PK (even PP if we can't shore up SHG) and the bottom six matchups against either of those teams. Our 4th is too slow and not much happens with Names, Paul and Colton together.

Would prefer an offensive threat at this point so we can move Cirelli down. We all know Cooper won't do that though.