Rumor: 2022-2023 Free Agency and Trade Rumors: STILL searching for a 2C

[shadow1]

Rodrigues is such a perfect fit for this team. You figured he would be with his style of play and the system but we're seeing pretty much the best version of it play out now. The production might go down but he still shifts the ice with his speed and transition play.

I think Elliotte was the one who said the Flames (even after signing Kadri), Canucks, and Ducks were some of the other teams interested. It would've really sucked if he ended up on the Flames to add even more depth to that team. Thankfully he chose the Avs and it'll likely be a win-win with him cashing in on his bet this summer.

Completely agree, Rodrigues has been a spark plug player this season and the team looks different when he's in the line-up.

I'm sure he's a goner this off-season, but hopefully MacFarland can snag a similar free agent next summer.

 

[CobraAcesS]

Agreed.

At this point I don't don't think Byram could get Dawson's 3x$4M bridge. He's played less than 35% of possible games since joining the NHL. Injuries are a massive issue with him.



I think we'll end up seeing like a 2x$3M deal where Bo simply needs to stay healthy to prove he can to the Avs.

That's exactly what I put in Cap Friendly. Might even be high, but for two years, I think it's dead on. I hadn't done one of these in a while, but it really is either Girard or Byram next year unless they go with ELCs for pretty much the entire bottom six. Which I have less of a problem with as long as it's not the 3C.

Unless they force Byram to basically take his QO plus a few bucks or decide to move him.

 

[expatriatedtexan]

Again, it’s Philly. What lesson have they learned since the 70s? Like, name one!

Would giving them credit for recognizing the error of trading Foppa and then signing him as an UFA count?


Okay, question for you should've been GM types out there...I'm currently looking at Capfriendly and it appears that Newhook has a cap hit of $908,333. Now I click on calculators and select Qualifying Offer Calculator, look up Newhook and I see that his Qualifying Offer for this summer is $874,125.

Wait...what? His qualifying offer is lower than his current cap hit? I'm beginning to think I do not understand the CBA and player contracts nearly as well as I had thought. Also, I understand that this is the minimum amount the Avs need to offer to maintain his rights. It doesn't mean Newhook has to sign for that amount.

So, what will his contract look like? I've seen folks pencil in 2M a few times...is that a general consensus? Is there a term associated with it (1 or 2 years)?

 

[Cousin Eddie]

Guys Jean Luc Foudy is smashing my expectations right now in the jungle. Very very impressive season for him. We probably shouldn’t get too attached however. Strong possibility he’s one of our trade chips.

 

[expatriatedtexan]

Guys Jean Luc Foudy is smashing my expectations right now in the jungle. Very very impressive season for him.

Dude rocketed up my likeability charts during his brief stint. So easy to cheer for a kid that plays the way he does. Just fearlessly sticking his nose into everything and seeing what he can get into.

 

[dahrougem2]

Guys Jean Luc Foudy is smashing my expectations right now in the jungle. Very very impressive season for him. We probably shouldn’t get too attached however. Strong possibility he’s one of our trade chips.

I would hate that. Perfect guy to bring into the bottom six next season for cheap.

 

[Hasbro]

Guys Jean Luc Foudy is smashing my expectations right now in the jungle. Very very impressive season for him. We probably shouldn’t get too attached however. Strong possibility he’s one of our trade chips.

Behrens has to be as close to untouchable as possible. Olausson might be the one I’m most comfortable moving. I

 

[CobraAcesS]

Behrens has to be as close to untouchable as possible. Olausson might be the one I’m most comfortable moving. I

Yeah, he definitely should be, but we really don't have anything that is untouchable outside the roster. We should be very protective of any ELC getting close to making an impact.

 

[Balthazar]

Foudy and Behrens are pretty much all we have to come help the team on ELC for the next couple of years. It's going to be tough not to trade them but we kinda need them too.

I don't think OO will make it.

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

Why would Avs go 5+ years with that dollar amount? $22.5 million is a ridiculous amount of guaranteed money for a player who unfortunately hasn't shown the ability to stay healthy. I think the front office has a lot of leverage in this situation. Bridge seems the best option for both parties and I'm sure the Avs would be happy to add additional years to the bridge at the bridge price if Byram wants to guarantee himself more money.

I don’t think it really makes sense for either side to go long term at this point, but if Byram agreed to an 8 X $5M contract I bet Colorado would sign that. Simply because of his age, and how impressive he’s been when he’s actually played and he’s done it in the playoffs.

But, I do think Byram’s camp has lost a lot of negotiating power with how many games he’s missing this year. If he had been mostly healthy this year, I don’t think the missed games would’ve factored in much, but they are really stacking up at this point.

 

[Freaky Styley]

Wonder what it would cost to get guys like Kubalik and Kole Lind over here.

Kubalik is in a bit of a slump from his hot start and cheap throughout this year and next. Still disappointed we didn't go after him for a cheap Bura replacement. Lind is putting up over a ppg in the A and should get a shot somewhere. Would beat out most of the depth guys we've called up to date.

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

All those prospects should be on the table imo.

Particularly if they can trade for someone who has term on their contract, or has a strong possibility of resigning. I like a couple of our prospects, but not nearly enough to punt on the forward depth this team needs at the deadline.

If I’m Colorado, I’m not bending over for Dallas, Vegas, Edmonton, or any of these teams in the West. They’ve been treading water while missing two top line forwards, a top pairing defenceman, and a plethora of other players. Load the hell up and send the message that the road through the west runs through Denver Colorado. Those 1sts and prospects aren’t making that much of a difference next season anyways.

 

[SirLoinOfCloth]

If we really, truly, madly, deeply want a 2C, there's really only one option in the top 100 centers in the league - Charlie Coyle.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Foudy would legit be the only prospect I flat out wouldn't trade. IMO he has both the highest upside and the highest floor of all our prospects at this point.

 

[Pokecheque]

If they can solve major depth issues by trading away every last prospect they have, then they need to do it. There is NO untouchable at this point.

 

[Balthazar]

If they can solve major depth issues by trading away every last prospect they have, then they need to do it. There is NO untouchable at this point.

We have 0 cap space for depth, that's exactly why they can't really trade them. We need NHL players that make 1M or less.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

That's exactly what I put in Cap Friendly. Might even be high, but for two years, I think it's dead on. I hadn't done one of these in a while, but it really is either Girard or Byram next year unless they go with ELCs for pretty much the entire bottom six. Which I have less of a problem with as long as it's not the 3C.

Unless they force Byram to basically take his QO plus a few bucks or decide to move him.

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Yep. Though I'd try and get the full 50% retention on Hayes to give us a little more room to work with.

BTW, next seasons cap will be at least $83.5M. It'll go up $1M even if they don't pay off the debt to Owners.

Personally, I think the NHLPA and the owners are going to end up negotiating a locked in, steady cap for this year and next year. Since we are certainly going to see the remaining players debt to owners paid off by next year.

My money is on us getting an $85M cap in 2022/23 and then an $87.5M cap in 23/24. Instead of going to 83.5M next year and then like $89M the following year.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

If they can solve major depth issues by trading away every last prospect they have, then they need to do it. There is NO untouchable at this point.

That's counterproductive though.


Good prospects are what make good depth. It's part of the reason why we suck this year, because we don't have a single good prospect that's been able to step up and play meaningful minutes for us.


Foudy is a very good prospect that should be a roster regular as soon as next year for under 900k. That's exactly the type of piece we desperately need to hang onto.

 

[CobraAcesS]

Yep. Though I'd try and get the full 50% retention on Hayes to give us a little more room to work with.

BTW, next seasons cap will be at least $83.5M. It'll go up $1M even if they don't pay off the debt to Owners.

Personally, I think the NHLPA and the owners are going to end up negotiating a locked in, steady cap for this year and next year. Since we are certainly going to see the remaining players debt to owners paid off by next year.

My money is on us getting an $85M cap in 2022/23 and then an $87.5M cap in 23/24. Instead of going to 83.5M next year and then like $89M the following year.

I think I'd be ok with planning for 83.5 basically. There is a way to fit Horvat in at 7M, but we forsure would be basically running a top four, and top six with nothing but ELCs everywhere else.

So that means one of G/Bo traded, and no 3C unless it does go to 85M.

Like Ben Meyers would be the 3C lol. Opening night, if we're lucky even at 83.5.

I do like the Hayes idea, but I also kinda wonder if we couldn't push the 3C issue to the TDL next year and actually run similar to this year, but with like Horvat instead of Compher, and only one of G/Bo. At least trading for those type of assets wouldn't necessarily cost a 1st every year.

They do have options. Manson is what he is, but they basically can choose what type of path they want based on our own guys play/health and what's available. Which is not bad, this year is tough though. It's either build a more balanced team by reorganizing the core positions, or hang on to this group and stick bandaids on until we can find a way to improve the position long term.

 

[Alienblood]

I’d like to keep E Rod.

Me too but I like him on the wing

 

[CobraAcesS]

That's counterproductive though.


Good prospects are what make good depth. It's part of the reason why we suck this year, because we don't have a single good prospect that's been able to step up and play meaningful minutes for us.


Foudy is a very good prospect that should be a roster regular as soon as next year for under 900k. That's exactly the type of piece we desperately need to hang onto.

I'm super in favor of moving to lock in a top six, top 4, and a 3C who can play up, and then investing in ELCs, and not trading 1sts anymore unless it's for a young player. Like zero rentals for 1sts.

You should be able to find 3rd line wings, 3rd pairing D, and even a top six winger without moving a 1st every year.

I wanna see Mack, Mikko, Landy, Nuke and Makar still here looking for cups in their late years like Boston.

 

[Alienblood]

Try to solve the #2C spot at all cost.

The bottom six can be a collection of cheap depth even if it's not ideal, fix it by the deadline.

See what a full healthy team looks like 1st

 

[Chiarelli]

Not saying he’s worth more but id probably be more interested trading newhook in the right trade before letting go of foudy.

 

[hughdreamz]

It’s too early to predict Byram’s contract next year. When he comes back and if he’s as solid as he was in the playoffs last year and we have a deep run, he would cost a good amount.

 

[CobraAcesS]

Not saying he’s worth more but id probably be more interested trading newhook in the right trade before letting go of foudy.

After going over capfriendly there is zero room for Newhook next year. He's 100% going to bring back assets in some way.

If or GM is as much of a cappologist as the recent article suggests. There really isn't any way around it in where we have to spend money. He'll need to be recycled into good assets. He didn't make the cut.