2022-2023 Blues Multi-Purpose Thread

[BlueMed]

Walker, Leivo?

Leivo has some potential, but Berube already loves Torpo for what he brings. I bet you that he scores more than 10 points this year regardless of what line he is on.

Brown, Walker, Leivo are all guys I'd give a chance to first.

Oh yeah, I forgot about Brown. Who knows how long he's going to be out for, but we'll see what happens.

Walker, Leivo?

Torop is definitely not an enforcer. But he's just a physical, big body there for energy not for scoring. He's got no hands.

I think you're underrating him a bit here.

 

[TK 421]

Looks like it’s not 100% but I bet he plays.

Good to have him healthy but also feel somewhat bad for Leivo.

Berube: "Toro, you're in."

 

[PocketNines]

Toropchenko is Cam Janssen in Logan Brown's body. I'd be shocked if he could get more than 10 points in an NHL season.

I don't agree from the limited sample size I saw. I saw a legitimate chaos-maker in terms of turning chances dangerous.

 

[Snubbed4Vezina]

Looks like the Blues are ready to roll with:

Saad-O'Reilly-Kyrou
Buchnevich-Thomas-Tarasenko
Neighbours-Schenn-Barbashev
Toropchenko-Acciari-Walker

I like it!

 

[Stupendous Yappi]

I just moved to Erwin, TN a little outside the TriCities area (Johnson City). I’m 4.5 hours from Nashville and probably a little closer to Raleigh making the Canes my closest team. I also can root for the Canes but will always hate the Predators.

So, trying to figure out what the best local option is for non-chain pizza. Found a mom and pop pizza parlor. Walk in the door wearing my Blues jacket and there is an old guy with an Unger jersey on. I think I’m going to like this place.

 

[Stealth JD]

Season is upon us.
Let’s F***ing Go, Blues!

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

Looks like pitlick back. Figured he was going to make club before he got hurt so makes sense if he is healthy they sign him. Brown to IR I suppose?

 

[Moose and Squirrel]

Looks like pitlick back. Figured he was going to make club before he got hurt so makes sense if he is healthy they sign him. Brown to IR I suppose?

hadn't seen that. makes sense if, like me, don't think Leivo is a 4th line player, but more middle six.

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

hadn't seen that. makes sense if, like me, don't think Leivo is a 4th line player, but more middle six.

Lou says he hasn’t signed, back on another pto for now.

 

[Stupendous Yappi]

Saw the graphic last night that Berube is the 5th longest tenured NHL coach now. (I'm not sure whether they're counting his interim time in that duration.) I was surprised to hear that.

 

[rumrokh]

Saw the graphic last night that Berube is the 5th longest tenured NHL coach now. (I'm not sure whether they're counting his interim time in that duration.) I was surprised to hear that.

Back when fans couldn't shut up about Ken Hitchcock's shelf-life, his tenures were still much longer than the majority of other coaches' were. Even his shorter tenures were exceptionally long for those franchises and the guys who came before and after him in those places. Every coach has a shelf-life, but it's just as often about the competitive abilities of the given team at a given time.

Fan perceptions are skewed in general ("streakiness" isn't a thing, for example), but how quickly things change is a big one. Tons of intense hockey fans still default to the belief that the Blues are a bruising, middle-skill team. Or they think an average of player production over the last three years is a good way to evaluate a player's current abilities (these kind souls fuel everyone else's fantasy hockey wins).

But it's admittedly more difficult to track coach movement when many teams have shuffled around the same guys for so many years. What kind of coach did they hire? Disciplinarian, a "players' coach," X's and O's? No, nothing like that, we got a bald one this time.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

Blues are 14th in the league. Completely unacceptable.

 

[Louie the Blue]

Back when fans couldn't shut up about Ken Hitchcock's shelf-life, his tenures were still much longer than the majority of other coaches' were. Even his shorter tenures were exceptionally long for those franchises and the guys who came before and after him in those places. Every coach has a shelf-life, but it's just as often about the competitive abilities of the given team at a given time.

Fan perceptions are skewed in general ("streakiness" isn't a thing, for example), but how quickly things change is a big one. Tons of intense hockey fans still default to the belief that the Blues are a bruising, middle-skill team. Or they think an average of player production over the last three years is a good way to evaluate a player's current abilities (these kind souls fuel everyone else's fantasy hockey wins).

But it's admittedly more difficult to track coach movement when many teams have shuffled around the same guys for so many years. What kind of coach did they hire? Disciplinarian, a "players' coach," X's and O's? No, nothing like that, we got a bald one this time.

Retiring after he returned to Dallas for season and being an interim in Edmonton for the majority of a season would be the definition of short tenures.

All of his time in Philadelphia, Columbus, and Dallas were either average or above average in terms of league tenure for a coach.

But yeah, not sure saying a coach lasting for a season or less in this league is normal is accurate to say.

 

[rumrokh]

Retiring after he returned to Dallas for season and being an interim in Edmonton for the majority of a season would be the definition of short tenures.

All of his time in Philadelphia, Columbus, and Dallas were either average or above average in terms of league tenure for a coach.

But yeah, not sure saying a coach lasting for a season or less in this league is normal is accurate to say.

Those were at the end of his career when he was half-retired anyway. Nobody was talking about him wearing out his welcome with lockerrooms at that point like they were when he was coaching the Blues.

 

[Louie the Blue]

Those were at the end of his career when he was half-retired anyway. Nobody was talking about him wearing out his welcome with lockerrooms at that point like they were when he was coaching the Blues.

I thought there were comments about wearing out his welcome in Edmonton?

 

[rumrokh]

I thought there were comments about wearing out his welcome in Edmonton?

Not that I recall and that would be really weird, but, hey, that's a pretty loopy fanbase, so just about anything is believable.

Either way, that's not what I was referencing.

 

[Chojin]

Every time I look at our defense and how long they're signed for, I'm legitimately shocked.

 

[PocketNines]

I want Tarasenko to assess the situation and realize that his best option is to remain a career Blue by drinking from the fountain of youth, aka remaining the RW on Thomas' line in the pure prime of Thomas' career.

As nice as some of the Blues forward prospects are, there is no Tarasenko among them, and there is no Tarasenko on the free agent market to replace him. When he goes, the Blues will be worse.

I can only imagine him signing with a contender. He is someone who would not thrive on a middling to bad team, but he would be a huge boost to a contender. He wants to win.

 

[TheDizee]

I'd resign Tarasenko over O'Reilly if the trend from last year continues. ROR had his worst season as a Blue and while he's still great defensively, you don't pay big bucks for that and he's not gonna get any younger or faster.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

Whoever made the Blues early season schedule can stub their toe.

 

[ChicagoBlues]

Every time I look at our defense and how long they're signed for, I'm legitimately shocked.

Is that good or bad?

 

[Xerloris]

I'd resign Tarasenko over O'Reilly if the trend from last year continues. ROR had his worst season as a Blue and while he's still great defensively, you don't pay big bucks for that and he's not gonna get any younger or faster.

He also had a really bad time with covid. He still put up almost 60 points and he was a beast in the playoffs again. I wouldn't worry about last year at all.

 

[BlueDream]

I'd resign Tarasenko over O'Reilly if the trend from last year continues. ROR had his worst season as a Blue and while he's still great defensively, you don't pay big bucks for that and he's not gonna get any younger or faster.

You absolutely do pay big bucks for a guy who is elite defensively, kills penalties and can matchup against any top line, along with producing offense.

Our record without Tarasenko in the lineup is very good. Luckily we haven’t had to experience that much with ROR, but I’d wager it wouldn’t be nearly as good if he missed time.

Much easier to replace goals than a guy who does literally everything.

 

[cmcalum]

You absolutely do pay big bucks for a guy who is elite defensively, kills penalties and can matchup against any top line, along with producing offense.

Our record without Tarasenko in the lineup is very good. Luckily we haven’t had to experience that much with ROR, but I’d wager it wouldn’t be nearly as good if he missed time.

Much easier to replace goals than a guy who does literally everything.

Lets see what type of year ROR has this year. It seems to me the Blues will have a very difficult decision at the end of this year.

 

[Mike Liut]

You absolutely do pay big bucks for a guy who is elite defensively, kills penalties and can matchup against any top line, along with producing offense.

Our record without Tarasenko in the lineup is very good. Luckily we haven’t had to experience that much with ROR, but I’d wager it wouldn’t be nearly as good if he missed time.

Much easier to replace goals than a guy who does literally everything.

I’m just not sure how well ROR ages the next 5-6 years.