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Now that most of free agency has played out, it appears our division got worse and Pacific still looks pretty mediocre.

Vegas, Edmonton, and St. Louis are the only plausible teams that even have a chance against the Avs and what I wouldn't consider a major upset (albeit still an upset).
 
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PAZ said:
Now that most of free agency has played out, it appears our division got worse and Pacific still looks pretty mediocre.

Vegas, Edmonton, and St. Louis are the only plausible teams that even have a chance against the Avs and what I wouldn't consider a major upset (albeit still an upset).
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IMO both Vegas and St. Louis got much worse.

St. Louis lost their most dangerous scorer and their starting goalie from last season, while Vegas lost their most dangerous scorer. Neither team did anything to replace what they lost.

Edmonton is our biggest threat.
 
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IMO both Vegas and St. Louis got much worse.

St. Louis lost their most dangerous scorer and their starting goalie from last season, while Vegas lost their most dangerous scorer. Neither team did anything to replace what they lost.

Edmonton is our biggest threat.
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St. Louis was the better team over Edmonton last year. Losing Perron hurts but Thomas and Kyrou should take another step this year. Plus Binnington has shown he can get hot and steal some games in the playoffs.

Edmonton had a solid offseason, but literally the only thing they actually did was upgrade from Smith to Campbell, plus they now have a ticking time bomb in Kane in their locker room.

Assuming Vegas gets completely healthy, they're still a big threat. Now that's a big if considering Stone has been held together with duct tape and Eichel is a question mark, but they'll have a full year to develop chemistry. Plus they just upgraded their coaching from a mediocre coach to one of the best coaches in the league

Assuming every team is completely healthy, Vegas > St. Louis > Edmonton would be the next best 3 teams.
 
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St. Louis was the better team over Edmonton last year. Losing Perron hurts but Thomas and Kyrou should take another step this year. Plus Binnington has shown he can get hot and steal some games in the playoffs.

Edmonton had a solid offseason, but literally the only thing they actually did was upgrade from Smith to Campbell, plus they now have a ticking time bomb in Kane in their locker room.

Assuming Vegas gets completely healthy, they're still a big threat. Now that's a big if considering Stone has been held together with duct tape and Eichel is a question mark, but they'll have a full year to develop chemistry. Plus they just upgraded their coaching from a mediocre coach to one of the best coaches in the league

Assuming every team is completely healthy, Vegas > St. Louis > Edmonton would be the next best 3 teams.
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St. Louis was better than Edmonton by 5 points. The Blues got objectively worse while the Oilers got a lot better. I think the Oilers are quite easily better than the Blues today.

Vegas doesn't scare me. It's quite apparent Bruce Cassidy was not liked at all in Boston and he's heading into a fragile dressing room with none of the leadership guys like Chara and Bergeron brought. He also has Robin Lehner to deal with.

For me, it goes Edmonton > St. Louis > Vegas.
 
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St. Louis was better than Edmonton by 5 points. The Blues got objectively worse while the Oilers got a lot better. I think the Oilers are quite easily better than the Blues today.

Vegas doesn't scare me. It's quite apparent Bruce Cassidy was not liked at all in Boston and he's heading into a fragile dressing room with none of the leadership guys like Chara and Bergeron brought. He also has Robin Lehner to deal with.

For me, it goes Edmonton > St. Louis > Vegas.
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That's fair, and honestly it's probably how the regular season plays out, but when it comes down to the playoffs we'll most likely be playing Vegas in the WCF and the Blues in the semis.
 
LA got a lot better. They are our biggest threat in the West.


Which says more about the West then LA to be fair. But a healtht Doughty and Fiala on the team are significant adds.

They already took Edmonton to 7 games before. Edmonton didn't get better or worse. Just stayed the same.
 
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St. Louis and Edmonton still the toughest in the west and we will roll both. Edmonton lost a top 4 d man which no one is mentioning.

LA sucks and is stuck between old legacy and new question marks they pulled the plug on the rebuild too soon.

West is Avs then the rest til further notice
 
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St. Louis and Edmonton still the toughest in the west and we will roll both. Edmonton lost a top 4 d man which no one is mentioning.

LA sucks and is stuck between old legacy and new question marks they pulled the plug on the rebuild too soon.

West is Avs then the rest til further notice
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Lol you really do live up to your username :laugh:


Also, What Top 4 Dman did Edmonton lose?
 
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St. Louis and Edmonton still the toughest in the west and we will roll both. Edmonton lost a top 4 d man which no one is mentioning.

LA sucks and is stuck between old legacy and new question marks they pulled the plug on the rebuild too soon.

West is Avs then the rest til further notice
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The Oilers gladly make the Keith/Kulak swap every day of the week. Keith was cooked, dude needed to retire. They upgraded their goaltending, get a full year of Kane and upgraded their D while jettisoning useless players like Kassian and Archibald.

I am mentally prepared from now for the Oilers if we make it back to the WCF.
 
Not to mention Draisaitl was playing on one leg through a high ankle sprain and Nurse a torn hip flexor.

Make no mistake, avalanche are the favourites. However, they downgraded their goaltending, lost Burakovsky, and could possibly still lose Kadri.

This is much closer then we think.
 
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Not to mention Draisaitl was playing on one leg through a high ankle sprain and Nurse a torn hip flexor.

Make no mistake, avalanche are the favourites. However, they downgraded their goaltending, lost Burakovsky, and could possibly still lose Kadri.

This is much closer then we think.
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It really isn't, we have no idea how the goaltending will shake out. It would take a pretty awful effort from Georgiev to get worse goaltending in the playoffs next year then what we just got this year.

Burakovsky is barely a loss. If they lose Kadri those are some shoes to fill for sure, that's the only thing that could potentially make our team weaker for next years playoffs. As for the injuries stuff... Lets not forget Kadri literally didn't play games 3 and 4 and Girard missed the entire series.


Seems weird for an Oilers fan to come here and argue this stuff though...
 
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Not to mention Draisaitl was playing on one leg through a high ankle sprain and Nurse a torn hip flexor.

Make no mistake, avalanche are the favourites. However, they downgraded their goaltending, lost Burakovsky, and could possibly still lose Kadri.

This is much closer then we think.
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Why are you here?
 
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Not to mention Draisaitl was playing on one leg through a high ankle sprain and Nurse a torn hip flexor.

Make no mistake, avalanche are the favourites. However, they downgraded their goaltending, lost Burakovsky, and could possibly still lose Kadri.

This is much closer then we think.
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You act like Campbell isn't a question mark after being one of the few goalies that posted a worse save percentage than Kuemper in the postseason.
 
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Not to mention Draisaitl was playing on one leg through a high ankle sprain and Nurse a torn hip flexor.

Make no mistake, avalanche are the favourites. However, they downgraded their goaltending, lost Burakovsky, and could possibly still lose Kadri.

This is much closer then we think.
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The Avs swept the Oilers with a backup goaltender, missing their 2C in nearly half the series and missing a top-4 D. Oh and Bura was a healthy scratch in the playoffs. Make no mistake.
 
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Im another that thinks that Edmonton is a bigger risk than either of St Louis or LA. Vegas is really tough to predict.

The Blues took Colorado to 6 but I thought Edmonton was the better team despite the sweep, losing in 6 was very flattering to the Blues and Edmonton should have won a game against the Avs based on how the teams played. I think Campbell is very good and was the best goalie on the market by a fair margin.

I wouldn’t be overly concerned with any teams however, by the time the playoffs start Colorado will have the 2C figured out. They are at least one full tier better than any other team in the West and should win again barring catastrophic injuries. They just had the most dominant playoff run since the late 2000 Red Wings and are bringing most of the team back.
 
FEDOR said:
Not to mention Draisaitl was playing on one leg through a high ankle sprain and Nurse a torn hip flexor.

Make no mistake, avalanche are the favourites. However, they downgraded their goaltending, lost Burakovsky, and could possibly still lose Kadri.

This is much closer then we think.
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I really am not concerned about the Burky loss at all, He was VERY streaky and offered nothing but his offense WHEN it was on.

I think Burky's offense will be replaced by more ice time for other players, and several of them will offer solid defense even when the offense isn't working.

Bednar practically begged Burky to become a more consistent player, inserted him into the top line many times, but in the end, he was quite often relegated to the third line in favor of more well-rounded players.

2C is still a concern, Burky is not.
 
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Eh. Enjoy Georgiev. Keumper was much better all season until his freak eye injury.

if you think you are no worse off at G then that is your prerogative.


As for the oilers, they were out of the playoffs when an interim coach brought them back from the dead. They will be a tough out no doubt.
 
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Eh. Enjoy Georgiev. Keumper was much better all season until his freak eye injury.

if you think you are no worse off at G then that is your prerogative.


As for the oilers, they were out of the playoffs when an interim coach brought them back from the dead. They will be a tough out no doubt.
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You have 59 posts in 14 years and are in the a avalanche forum trying to convince us the oilers are good.

Da fuq lol.
 
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Eh. Enjoy Georgiev. Keumper was much better all season until his freak eye injury.

if you think you are no worse off at G then that is your prerogative.


As for the oilers, they were out of the playoffs when an interim coach brought them back from the dead. They will be a tough out no doubt.
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Kuemper had a bad start, then was real hot from mid-December through early April, and then was REAL bad again...including the playoffs when we needed him at his best more consistently. Credit to him for pulling out some tough low-scoring wins in Games 4 and 6, but he was not good at all. Again, early April onward he was bad, and we'll never know if the eye injury was to blame for how the rest of his PO's went or not, because his before wasn't looking good.
 
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