2022-2023 Around The League

[nammerus]

Should be an Av

Oh man....the perfect player for our system.

 

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This 3rd of the Tampa/Detroit game

 

[Foppa2118]

I wouldn't say they got unlucky as much as Trevor Timmins just became really bad at his job. Galchenyuk was a pretty highly-touted prospect at the time, I'll concede that, but Kotkaniemi was a reach. Not the first time centers get overvalued in a draft, they're the quarterbacks of hockey. Timmins IIRC had some big misses (Fisher) but for the most part was able to get some good talent out of most levels of the draft. Don't know if it was a refusal to integrate analytics or Bergevin's influence or what, but he lost his way.

Whether it was a refusal to tank and stockpile picks or something else, it just reeked of indecision. I don't think Bergevin had any idea of what kind of team he truly wanted. Even the culmination of his supposed "vision," the team that fluked their way to the Final, looked like a total slapdash job.

Only having three top 10 picks in 16 years is a big reason why too. This relates to not committing to a rebuild. And trading top pair caliber defenseman like McDonagh and Sergachev for Gomez and Drouin can cripple a franchise. You only get so many shots to find those kind of guys.

They were always missing high end talent and it's no wonder why. From 08-17 they had 7 years of late 1st round picks and two top 10 picks that they never got much out of. One they traded for Drouin. The other was Galchenyuk. Then they got another #3 pick in Kotkaniemi who hasn't panned out as hoped and who they lost to Carolina, then sent the compensatory pick to Arizona for Dvorak.

Habs Top Picks Since 2006

2006 - 20 - David Fischer
2007 - 12 - Ryan McDonagh
2008 - 56 - Danny Kristo
2009 - 18 - Louis Leblanc
2010 - 22 - Jarred Tinordi
2011 - 17 - Nathan Beaulieu
2012 - 3 - Alex Galchenyuk
2013 - 25 - Michael McCarron
2014 - 26 - Nikita Scherbak
2015 - 26 - Noah Juulsen
2016 - 9 - Mikhail Sergachev
2017 - 25 - Ryan Poehling
2018 - 3 - Jesperi Kotkaniemi
2019 - 15 - Cole Caufield
2020 - 16 - Kaiden Guhle
2021 - 31 - Logan Mailloux

 

[AllAboutAvs]

You don’t see very many shifts where one player has the puck for ~25 seconds, with 4 different touches and he ends up going through multiple defenders to setup a goal on a cross ice pass. We see it from time to time here, but not often. That’ll be a top 5 shift for the month… top 10-15 for the year. And it wasn’t his best from tonight.

Don't get me wrong. It was a great shift but again you can see that on occasions pretty well every week in the NHL. I see it on the Avs once in a while, against the Avs, in other games when that the Avs are not involved, etc. A few times he made quick passes after having the puck only a few seconds, a couple of times he lost the puck or almost lost it. He had a couple of times he had the puck for a considerable amount of time and did some nice spinoramas but we saw that regularly from Duchene when he was here and we see those from Mack regularly as well. Again great shift but far from the statement on the tweet. That maybe just me though.

 

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Don't get me wrong. It was a great shift but again you can see that on occasions pretty well every week in the NHL. I see it on the Avs once in a while, against the Avs, in other games when that the Avs are not involved, etc. A few times he made quick passes after having the puck only a few seconds, a couple of times he lost the puck or almost lost it. He had a couple of times he had the puck for a considerable amount of time and did some nice spinoramas but we saw that regularly from Duchene when he was here and we see those from Mack regularly as well. Again great shift but far from the statement on the tweet. That maybe just me though.

The statement on the tweet is a bit much… but that’s a fantastic shift that only will be matched this season on the Avs by Makar and MacK… that amount of possession, control, movement, and ending in a goal is pretty spectacular

Also gotta laugh at @Alienblood liking a post even slightly playing down Hughes.

 

[AllAboutAvs]

The statement on the tweet is a bit much… but that’s a fantastic shift that only will be matched this season on the Avs by Makar and MacK… that amount of possession, control, movement, and ending in a goal is pretty spectacular

Also gotta laugh at @Alienblood liking a post even slightly playing down Hughes.

Again great shift but not fantastic in my book so agree to disagree.

 

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Wrights first goal against the Habs is pretty on point.

 

[Foppa2118]

Hughes is a great player but the first 10 seconds of possession down low on that shift were the best part.

The rest we see from Nate multiple times every game. And the finish he just walked right in with four guys watching him, making weak as hell stick checks that he doesn't even need to stick handle through, knocking the puck back onto his stick, and then leaving a 10 foot wide passing lane through the slot.

 

[PAZ]

He is putting on a clinic tonight… His best shift was just him dominating down low that didn’t end up in a goal.

Here was the full shift on the first goal

This video just shows how lucky we are that we get to watch Mack and Makar. I didn't find it that impressive, but that speaks more to how normal it is to see these types of plays as an Avs fan than actually discounting what Hughes did.

 

[Colorado Avalanche]

He is putting on a clinic tonight… His best shift was just him dominating down low that didn’t end up in a goal.

Here was the full shift on the first goal

Spinning game is like watching younger Duchene.

Definitely a bit overhype in the video description though. It was nice. He has soft hands.

This video just shows how lucky we are that we get to watch Mack and Makar. I didn't find it that impressive, but that speaks more to how normal it is to see these types of plays are for Avs fans than actually discounting what Hughes did.

Exactly. We see greatness every game so maybe that didn't look so great.

 

[Balthazar]

Martin Jones 3 goals on 6 shots

 

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Martin Jones 3 goals on 6 shots

Seattle’s ability to hold on will be completely dictated by .905 goaltending. If they get it, easily a playoff team. If they don’t, they need to win games by scoring 4-5-6 goals.

 

[The Kingslayer]

This 3rd of the Tampa/Detroit game

Tampa is lucky they werent down 6-0 going into the third. Vasi was incredible. Tampa couldnt stop turning over the puck haha.

This video just shows how lucky we are that we get to watch Mack and Makar. I didn't find it that impressive, but that speaks more to how normal it is to see these types of plays are for Avs fans than actually discounting what Hughes did.

Hughes should have been an Av

 

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Tampa is lucky they werent down 6-0 going into the third. Vasi was incredible. Tampa couldnt stop turning over the puck haha.


Hughes should have been an Av

And the Detroit was lucky Tampa didn’t score 6 in the third. Weird game, but fun!

 

[Balthazar]

Seattle’s ability to hold on will be completely dictated by .905 goaltending. If they get it, easily a playoff team. If they don’t, they need to win games by scoring 4-5-6 goals.

They aren't getting .905 tonight for sure.

more like .500.

4 goals on 8 shots so far

It's hard to believe that Martin Jones still has a job in the NHL but here we are.

 

[expatriatedtexan]

Okay...remember, this is Pat Verbeek and as a player, he is the little Ball of Hate.

Did he put their claim in on Megna after MacK got hurt? If so I'm sure it' just because it's in Pat's very DNA to mess with folks when can. I suppose someone will try to convince me that a Jayson Megna is better than a Mason McTavish, but I maintain that is utter rubbish. CMac had a major hand in building a championship team, and as a master builder he would've gladly traded a Jasyon for a...Mason.

Seriously though...how does this help the Ducks?

 

[Pokecheque]

They aren't getting .905 tonight for sure.

more like .500.

4 goals on 8 shots so far

It's hard to believe that Martin Jones still has a job in the NHL but here we are.

Jones was surprisingly adequate to start the season. Big reason why they were successful after Grooby went down.

 

[Pokecheque]

Avs get NO help from the Eastern Conference except for Toronto, who shut out Jason Robertson and the Stars. Is that the end of the streak or did it end before that?

 

[The Kingslayer]

Avs get NO help from the Eastern Conference except for Toronto, who shut out Jason Robertson and the Stars. Is that the end of the streak or did it end before that?

It should have ended against the Avs when they gave him in assist on Pavelski's goal. Pavelski tipped that off of Benn and in. It should have been Benns goal not Pavelski.

 

[Chiarelli]

I wouldn't say they got unlucky as much as Trevor Timmins just became really bad at his job. Galchenyuk was a pretty highly-touted prospect at the time, I'll concede that, but Kotkaniemi was a reach. Not the first time centers get overvalued in a draft, they're the quarterbacks of hockey. Timmins IIRC had some big misses (Fisher) but for the most part was able to get some good talent out of most levels of the draft. Don't know if it was a refusal to integrate analytics or Bergevin's influence or what, but he lost his way.

Whether it was a refusal to tank and stockpile picks or something else, it just reeked of indecision. I don't think Bergevin had any idea of what kind of team he truly wanted. Even the culmination of his supposed "vision," the team that fluked their way to the Final, looked like a total slapdash job.

Ya tkatchuk and Hughes were right there they got too preoccupied with drafting a center. Doesn’t always work

Ya that was more the defense than Hughes

All 3 of the players he torched suck? If he was an av you’d love him

 

[SirLoinOfCloth]

Hughes is not even fit to read about Makars jockstrap on an internet forum. f*** that guy.

 

[Chiarelli]

Seattle’s ability to hold on will be completely dictated by .905 goaltending. If they get it, easily a playoff team. If they don’t, they need to win games by scoring 4-5-6 goals.

Seattle is the team that should go get Bobrovsky (down to 50%). They could get a haul and afford him. I heard last night bob is 70th in GSAA I’m not convinced it doesn’t take some serious assets to dump that contract. I do think he could bounce back tho.

 

[Chiarelli]

Didn’t really follow it last year but sure seems like Schiefele and Maurice were not fans of eachother for whatever reason.

 

[MacKaRant]

Didn’t really follow it last year but sure seems like Schiefele and Maurice were not fans of eachother for whatever reason.

Maurice: "Mark, as you can see in this video, you didn't really backcheck on this play. We want all of our guys to play hard at both ends of the rink. Can you do that for the team?"
Schiefele: "Nope."

 

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Didn’t really follow it last year but sure seems like Schiefele and Maurice were not fans of eachother for whatever reason.

Maurice was around too long and the room was lost. Pretty much happens with every coach on a long enough timeframe, especially when struggles creep in.