2022-2023 Around The League

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It should be noted that Miller was barred from contacting the victim or family by the court outside the issued apology that was given in court and sent in the mail. Now, IMO, that doesn't mean that he shouldn't try to make amends and the court likely wouldn't care if he tried to, but it is a situation that should be noted and understood there might be some legal issues around direct contact that he's being advised against.

No matter what, Miller did a very shitty thing when he was 14. Inexcusable actions that deserved punishment. And no matter where you stand on this, he has faced punishment... he had legal ramifications, he had a team renounce their rights, he lost a year of playing hockey, and he lost ALL scholarship offers including the one with a signed agreement. For a 18/19 year old kid, that is a decent amount of punishment. It clearly isn't what some want. I stand pretty solidly on a side that people should be allowed to redeem themselves. He is not necessarily the same person today as he was then... he likely won't be the same person in 10 years as he is today. He should have a chance for redemption. If he f***s up, lay the hammer down. If he doesn't and becomes an advocate for change... we should embrace that.

 

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It should be noted that Miller was barred from contacting the victim or family by the court outside the issued apology that was given in court and sent in the mail. Now, IMO, that doesn't mean that he shouldn't try to make amends and the court likely wouldn't care if he tried to, but it is a situation that should be noted and understood there might be some legal issues around direct contact that he's being advised against.

No matter what, Miller did a very shitty thing when he was 14. Inexcusable actions that deserved punishment. And no matter where you stand on this, he has faced punishment... he had legal ramifications, he had a team renounce their rights, he lost a year of playing hockey, and he lost ALL scholarship offers including the one with a signed agreement. For a 18/19 year old kid, that is a decent amount of punishment. It clearly isn't what some want. I stand pretty solidly on a side that people should be allowed to redeem themselves. He is not necessarily the same person today as he was then... he likely won't be the same person in 10 years as he is today. He should have a chance for redemption. If he f***s up, lay the hammer down. If he doesn't and becomes an advocate for change... we should embrace that.

I fully support that you're giving the kid a second chance.

But why would you do this as the Boston Bruins organization? Not worth the headache IMO.

 

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I fully support that you're giving the kid a second chance.

But why would you do this as the Boston Bruins organization? Not worth the headache IMO.

The payoff is a potential top pairing defensemen… he’s a hell of a prospect. They think they can handle the pr heat.

 

[The Merchant]

I don't know how many more times this needs to be said, but it was not an isolated incident. The abuse started in the 1st grade. He wasn't caught until years later.

 

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I don't know how many more times this needs to be said, but it was not an isolated incident. The abuse started in the 1st grade. He wasn't caught until years later.

This will probably be unpopular…. But youre going to an extreme side of the story. If there was abuse for 8 years and the victims parents didn’t stop it until he was 14… that’s very poor parenting. They should be protecting their child and finding a way to stop it. Either by charges, restraining order, moving, etc. As a parent you shouldn’t allow that to happen for 8 years. Especially when the kids hung out a lot and considered themselves friends. Something doesn’t quite fit with that story. I can easily see Miller being shitty and doing some shitty things… but 8 years of abuse seems like stretching what happened to continue into punish Miller.

 

[The Merchant]

This will probably be unpopular…. But youre going to an extreme side of the story. If there was abuse for 8 years and the victims parents didn’t stop it until he was 14… that’s very poor parenting. They should be protecting their child and finding a way to stop it. Either by charges, restraining order, moving, etc. As a parent you shouldn’t allow that to happen for 8 years. Especially when the kids hung out a lot and considered themselves friends. Something doesn’t quite fit with that story. I can easily see Miller being shitty and doing some shitty things… but 8 years of abuse seems like stretching what happened to continue into punish Miller.

Don't take it up with me take it up with the court documents. Your baseline to defend him and downplay his actions just to fit your narrative of devil's advocate is kinda gross though ngl

 

[Muffin]

This will probably be unpopular…. But youre going to an extreme side of the story. If there was abuse for 8 years and the victims parents didn’t stop it until he was 14… that’s very poor parenting. They should be protecting their child and finding a way to stop it. Either by charges, restraining order, moving, etc. As a parent you shouldn’t allow that to happen for 8 years. Especially when the kids hung out a lot and considered themselves friends. Something doesn’t quite fit with that story. I can easily see Miller being shitty and doing some shitty things… but 8 years of abuse seems like stretching what happened to continue into punish Miller.

We’ve seen nothing to suggest he has even changed one bit. Even the judge said he didn’t seem regretful at all. Even his public apology is full of excuses.

 

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Don't take it up with me take it up with the court documents. Your baseline to defend him and downplay his actions just to fit your narrative of devil's advocate is kinda gross though ngl

The judicial system is the US is pretty flawed and you can find a lot of things as evidence that are not as they seem. They are that way to present a compelling case, not necessarily to present the most clear picture of exactly what happened. This has been seem a million times over in cases throughout the US.

Not downplaying his actions… his actions were shitty full stop. No chance for any redemption is shitty.

 

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We’ve seen nothing to suggest he has even changed one bit. Even the judge said he didn’t seem regretful at all. Even his public apology is full of excuses.

Not totally true, his teammates and coaches in the USHL rave about him.

He may not have been regretful at the time, but he might be now. Or he may not. Giving him zero chance is just asking for more and more pounds of flesh. How much is enough? Legit question. What is the proper amount of punishment where people can move on?

 

[Muffin]

Not totally true, his teammates and coaches in the USHL rave about him.

He may not have been regretful at the time, but he might be now. Or he may not. Giving him zero chance is just asking for more and more pounds of flesh. How much is enough? Legit question. What is the proper amount of punishment where people can move on?

Sweeney could not come out looking any worse with his reponses:

Yea, if it's somebody else's kid ****em right?



And he hasn't even apologized.

 

[Avs_19]

Oh the Bruins went with the classic sports team approach to this. "We vetted him"....."did you talk to the victim?"....."well, no. but we vetted him!"

 

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Sweeney could not come out looking any worse with his reponses:

Yea, if it's somebody else's kid ****em right?



And he hasn't even apologized.

The apology thing is technically untrue. He apologized in court and through a letter. By a court order, was told not to contact after that. Now you can say he didn’t apologize directly to the family or properly/meaningfully (which I totally agree with), but that claim of zero apology is more about how the family feels about the apology that was given.

 

[Muffin]

Nothing like a shaking up a 10-1 team.

 

[expatriatedtexan]

Oh the Bruins went with the classic sports team approach to this. "We vetted him"....."did you talk to the victim?"....."well, no. but we vetted him!"

And who did the vetting?

 

[Muffin]

Just gonna say I highly doubt he's changed. People don't do what he did without learning it from somebody, his whole family is racist and none of them thought he did anything wrong. His sister came out to defend him when the initial incident first came out at the draft.

 

[Balthazar]

What's proper punishment for the bullshit you did at 13-14 though? I wasn't a bully but I sure did some things at that age that I'm not proud of.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Boy did Marty Necas ever have hit the switch in his head this year.


If he was available this summer, missed opportunity for sure(Doubt he was though).

 

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Boy did Marty Necas ever have hit the switch in his head this year.


If he was available this summer, missed opportunity for sure(Doubt he was though).

He looks incredible and playing like he looked in his draft year.

 

[Balthazar]

Kotkaniemi scored his 1st goal

That 8 year contract is going to be a long one

 

[The Moops]

I, too, strive to actively contribute to society.

I don't

 

[Metallo]

I just learned that in the NCAA you can choose between the penalty shot and a 2min penalty. The NHL should do that.

Also some teams like U. Minnesota play on Olympic ice.

 

[expatriatedtexan]

I don't

Right? I strive to actively avoid society.

 

[Metallo]

It would be hilarious if he was bullied by every black NHL player in he ever makes it.

 

[avsfan09]

I, too, strive to actively contribute to society.

What an amazing feat.

 

[Balthazar]

I just learned that in the NCAA you can choose between the penalty shot and a 2min penalty. The NHL should do that.

Disagree.

There's no need to f*** around with the rules.

Kotkaniemi scored his 1st goal

That 8 year contract is going to be a long one

Reinforcing my point: