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Miller shouldn't be forever slammed for something that happened in eighth grade. Some make very dumb decisions as children, if they mature and change their act it's fine and should be forgotten.
You're undeselling just how heinous the shit he pulled was. And it was not an isolated incident. He has shown no remorse and the victim's mother has made it a point to let everyone know that they have never received an apology outside of the written one forced by the courts.
 
You're undeselling just how heinous the shit he pulled was. And it was not an isolated incident. He has shown no remorse and the victim's mother has made it a point to let everyone know they have never received an apology outside of the written one forced by the courts.
Even if it was really bad, he did it as a child. I don't think he should be on trial for the rest of his life because of it.

Now I'm not going to even pretend to have any idea what kind of a person Mitchell Miller is in 2022. If he's a piece of crap then f*** that guy.
 
Miller shouldn't be forever slammed for something that happened in eighth grade. Some make very dumb decisions as children, if they mature and change their act it's fine and should be forgotten.

You're right he shouldn't. But if said person hasn't made any even perfunctory gestures to signify change, why does he just automatically get the benefit of the doubt? Even in pre-draft interviews people were saying he was evasive and refuting even obvious facts about the incidents that are fairly common knowledge at this point.

Why do we always just assume people get better as they get older? Have you not met people? Some people who were shitty as kids continue to be shitty adults. Not everyone gets wiser with age. Quit assuming this every time, especially in the wake of heinous behavior like this.

Once again, for the people in the back--the OTHER KID involved in this bullying issued a genuine and formal apology, and was forgiven by the boy and his family. When Miller does something similar, then I'll give him some credit. But he hasn't, and likely never will. Don't just assume time has made a person better--in this case I don't think it has at all.
 
You're right he shouldn't. But if said person hasn't made any even perfunctory gestures to signify change, why does he just automatically get the benefit of the doubt? Even in pre-draft interviews people were saying he was evasive and refuting even obvious facts about the incidents that are fairly common knowledge at this point.

Why do we always just assume people get better as they get older? Have you not met people? Some people who were shitty as kids continue to be shitty adults. Not everyone gets wiser with age. Quit assuming this every time, especially in the wake of heinous behavior like this.

Once again, for the people in the back--the OTHER KID involved in this bullying issued a genuine and formal apology, and was forgiven by the boy and his family. When Miller does something similar, then I'll give him some credit. But he hasn't, and likely never will. Don't just assume time has made a person better--in this case I don't think it has at all.
Why? Well if we've learned anything from the Kyle Beach situation it's that winning trumps all. That's hockey culture.
 
From the kids perspective, I'm kinda ok with him getting a second chance. But for the Bruins, why o why would you want to deal with this kind of backlash when we are not even talking about some potential superstar?
 
By the way, I am certainly guilty of having said and done things in my youth that I am ashamed of to this day, things I knew were wrong at the time. That said, I still never did anything remotely close to what was done by Mitchell Miller, and I highly doubt any of the rest of ya's did either. So, talk about forgiveness and youthful indiscretion all you want but let's put it in context at least first, okay?
 
By the way, I am certainly guilty of having said and done things in my youth that I am ashamed of to this day, things I knew were wrong at the time. That said, I still never did anything remotely close to what was done by Mitchell Miller, and I highly doubt any of the rest of ya's did either. So, talk about forgiveness and youthful indiscretion all you want but let's put it in context at least first, okay?
And Mitch's guiding forces have had four years to scruff him by the neck, show him the error of his ways and make amends for what he did.
 
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At this point, a lot of attention will be paid to Miller and the Bruins. If anything comes up, you can be sure everyone will hear about it. On Miller to change things and perception of him.
From the kids perspective, I'm kinda ok with him getting a second chance. But for the Bruins, why o why would you want to deal with this kind of backlash when we are not even talking about some potential superstar?

There's a chance Miller ends up a very, very good NHL defensemen... he's a legit top end defensive prospect. Wouldn't shock me at all to see him end up a top pairing guy in the NHL. He's legitimately talented. Bruins wouldn't be willing to take the heat if he was a meh prospect.
 


That's a team that could really use Bedard or at least a top 3 pick in the upcoming draft.
 
Cool thing about being at work while the game today is being played via blackout...by the time I get home tonight, it should be available on ESPN+ for on-demand.

While I still have issues with ESPN's broadcast crew, ESPN+ the service has been absolutely fantastic. I can't believe it was basically a free throw-in along with Hulu when we ordered Disney+.
 
Cool thing about being at work while the game today is being played via blackout...by the time I get home tonight, it should be available on ESPN+ for on-demand.

While I still have issues with ESPN's broadcast crew, ESPN+ the service has been absolutely fantastic. I can't believe it was basically a free throw-in along with Hulu when we ordered Disney+.
It is really the best streaming deal out there...
 
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The incidents in question took place in 2016. Miller has had between then and now to reach out and at least issue a direct apology. He hasn't.

AGAIN, the other kid who was responsible for the bullying DID reach out, DID issue a genuine apology, and was forgiven.

But Miller? A half-assed attempt after six years of silence (apart from a court-ordered statement) via Instagram.



He isn't even doing the bare minimum, quit acting like Miller is being persecuted or something--he could very easily change the narrative, he and his family have chosen not to.
 
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Just to play devil's advocate, is it possible his lawyer has told him not to apologize so he doesn't open himself up to lawsuits (even if there is a near zero percent chance they actually sue him)?
 
Just to play devil's advocate, is it possible his lawyer has told him not to apologize so he doesn't open himself up to lawsuits (even if there is a near zero percent chance they actually sue him)?

I knew that argument was coming, and I don't buy it. He wouldn't have reached out period if that were the case.

And again, this happened. Six. Years. Ago.
 
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I knew that argument was coming, and I don't buy it. He wouldn't have reached out period if that were the case.

And again, this happened. Six. Years. Ago.
Yeah I don't buy it either, just have to be a contrarian sometimes :popcorn: And also from my experience lawyers ruin everything.

When I was a teenager I said my fair share of very insensitive things. Luckily for me Twitter wasn't around back then and I eventually grew up (a little at least). But I guess the difference is that if someone came to me today and told me they were offended by the things I said back then I would apologize to them instead of pretending to be a victim.
 
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I only now realized Miller got immediately signed by one of these scumbag GM's. No justice over there.
 
This is Miller's statement:

“When I was in eighth grade, I made an extremely poor decision and acted very immaturely,” Miller said Friday in a statement released by the team. “I bullied one of my classmates. I deeply regret the incident and have apologized to the individual. Since the incident, I have come to better understand the far-reaching consequences of my actions that I failed to recognize and understand nearly seven years ago. I strive to be a better person and positively contribute to society."
 
This is Miller's statement:

“When I was in eighth grade, I made an extremely poor decision and acted very immaturely,” Miller said Friday in a statement released by the team. “I bullied one of my classmates. I deeply regret the incident and have apologized to the individual. Since the incident, I have come to better understand the far-reaching consequences of my actions that I failed to recognize and understand nearly seven years ago. I strive to be a better person and positively contribute to society."

Meaningless.
 
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