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If EJ decides to retire after this year, keeping Manson around might be more important than if EJ continues another year.
Rumor: 2022-2022 Trade Rumors and Free Agency Part 14: Sakic goes back to bed
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dahrougem2
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Burakovsky can and likely will command 5x5 as a UFA.
People's opinions of him on this board vary wildly. Some think he's useless, some think he's a points leech. Personally I'm a big Burakovsky fan but won't be upset if he walks because there are more pressing needs.
Don't get it twisted though, dude is getting paid. Scored at a 64 point pace in 19/20 before Covid shutdown, then 68 point pace over 82 last season before scoring 61 this year. Also has 29 points in 37 playoff games the last three years with the Avs, and if this playoff run has proven anything it's that he CAN dedicate himself to a defensive role on the 3rd line if pressed. Note that you don't want him there over a season but he took the "demotion" and played his ass off. Got rewarded in the finals with 2 goals in 2 games and IMO if he isn't hurt, he will be scoring a bunch more. He's just that streaky.
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Friedman talked more about Nichushkin on the pod today. He said someone from another team called him to ask if he's going to have a segment during the intermission and if he is then he should talk about Nichushkin. That person said the Avs have gone to Nichushkin and told him other than MacKinnon's deal, he's the top priority.
Avs don't think they can keep Kadri but they believe they have a good shot at Nichushkin. He knows what it's like playing elsewhere and how fit is so important so even if the Avs can't make the best offer, he could take less as long as it's a competitive offer because he likes it here and they're the team that believed in him when no one else did.
All speculation and you always have to wonder why someone from another team wants that type of info out there but still great news if true.
Avs don't think they can keep Kadri but they believe they have a good shot at Nichushkin. He knows what it's like playing elsewhere and how fit is so important so even if the Avs can't make the best offer, he could take less as long as it's a competitive offer because he likes it here and they're the team that believed in him when no one else did.
All speculation and you always have to wonder why someone from another team wants that type of info out there but still great news if true.
Pretty much.
I think EJ has shown he can still get it done as a #4 guy, when he's paired with an elite transitional guy like Girard.
If he plays out his contract, which I think he will, we don't need Manson at all. Just get a cheap #6D and this group will be elite once again.
If EJ decides to LTIRetire, then you could look at Manson but certainly nor for 4M+ or 4 years.
Yup, take it with a grain of salt but still good to hear.
If Nuke can get 6M on the open market, I think he signs for 5.5M with us.
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If EJ is staying then he’d be best used on a PT basis. I don’t think he’s durable enough to play a full season and he’s at his best if platooned.
dahrougem2
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EJ played as close to a full season as possible this year.
If he's back, it's a 3rd pairing role much like it has been sans playoffs this season.
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That's probably fair, though I was speaking in terms of what the Avs can probably afford. If they intend to add a 2C (eg. Copp or Trocheck for ~$5-6m) while also keeping Girard and re-signing Nuke ($6m), Lehkonen ($4m), and Kuemper ($5.5m) then re-signing Manson isn't realistic at all unless they go cheaper than expected on some guys or just trade someone. Signing Manson to $4m+ would also cause further issues beyond 2023. I just don't see it as feasible unless Sakic: goes cheap in goal; doesn't add a 2C; and/or or trades Girard.
EJ isn't leaving $6m on the table by retiring.
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The Avs could just bring the whole gang back if they move EJ this off-season, or he retires. If that cap space opens up they realistically could do it.
They’d have to somewhat blow it up a year from now when they have to sign MacKinnon and Byram, but if they want to run it back, the option exists.
They’d have to somewhat blow it up a year from now when they have to sign MacKinnon and Byram, but if they want to run it back, the option exists.
hughdreamz
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Friedman says Avs 50%+ likely to re-sign Nuke. Nuke understands a bad fit and knows he has a good one in Colorado.
dahrougem2
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People need to stop thinking EJ will retire or get traded. Not happening. Joe Sakic is not moving a guy that asked to stay here during the down years AND did the team a huge favour waving his NMC during the Seattle expansion draft, allthewhile playing great hockey this season (arguably his best in a few years) alongside Bo Byram in the final year of his deal.
It is not happening. Any potential roster should have EJ and his 6M on it.
It is not happening. Any potential roster should have EJ and his 6M on it.
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I don't think we keep Kuemper but yes, this discussion started with the idea that if we trade Girard we have to keep Manson. We can't keep both.
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It's possible that we start next season with a second pairing of Byram and Girard on the right side. I'm not a fan of this though.
Also I think we re-up JJ for like 1M.
Also I think we re-up JJ for like 1M.
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If he doesn’t extend this summer he can’t play next year…so he can’t wait to extend. Unless you meant he should take a shorter term deal, but that’s not your wording.
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I know he is. I don't understand your point.
"Bottom 4 dmen" has been used many time in the past. I have used it myself. Just like Top-4 dman means you consider the dman to be a #4 at worst, bottom-4 dman means he tops out as a #3 and is not good enough to play on the top pair.
Duh!!! For some reason I thought he had one more year on his current contract. Nevermind he is a priority as well then.
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Bobrovsky retained heavily shopped around the league
“Florida may be floating out that they’d be willing to [take on] 50 percent (of his salary) and hope that it doesn’t, that they can hold back less money,” Kypreos said on Real Kyper & Bourne. “They’ve got cap issues as much as anyone out there in the league.”
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“Florida may be floating out that they’d be willing to [take on] 50 percent (of his salary) and hope that it doesn’t, that they can hold back less money,” Kypreos said on Real Kyper & Bourne. “They’ve got cap issues as much as anyone out there in the league.”
Reports: Sergei Bobrovsky ‘being shopped hard’ by the Florida Panthers, John Gibson could be on trade block
If the Florida Panthers had it their way, Sergei Bobrovsky WOULD BE OFF THE CASE. (Sorry, I couldn't help myself.) Sportsnet 590…
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Bobrovsky retained heavily shopped around the league
“Florida may be floating out that they’d be willing to [take on] 50 percent (of his salary) and hope that it doesn’t, that they can hold back less money,” Kypreos said on Real Kyper & Bourne. “They’ve got cap issues as much as anyone out there in the league.”
Reports: Sergei Bobrovsky ‘being shopped hard’ by the Florida Panthers, John Gibson could be on trade block
If the Florida Panthers had it their way, Sergei Bobrovsky WOULD BE OFF THE CASE. (Sorry, I couldn't help myself.) Sportsnet 590…
Bobrovsky at 33 years old for $5m x4 years still doesn't seem all too appealing.
The most interesting parts of that article was about Washington and the part about Gibson.
From the tweet below it seems like Gibson has started each season decently and then tailed-off. Some might look at this chart and conclude that it's a graph of how much Gibson has cared, and that his stats have dropped as soon as he's realised that Anaheim have had nothing to play for. Most notably he was stellar in that 2021-22 peak where Anaheim still had an outside shot of the playoffs, until they didn't, so maybe he's still capable of elevating his play when he has something to play for.
Until the playoffs I thought anything between Coleman and Hyman contracts were likely with Danault being the likely ultimate comparison at $5.5M. With his exposure to a lot of people in the playoff run I think in FA his top level is now closer to $7M or so which means Col will likely have to go $6M at this point at least. Maybe something with term could get them to high 5s but I'm not sure at this point.
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Maybe. But maybe not. It's still a big gamble with that contract. 6.4M for 5 years is a big deal for a goalie that has been "the worst goalie in the league after February".
And even if what you said is true then straight up giving up isn't the best quality either.
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That guy from another team said that the Avs have at least 50% chance to keep him. That's not a big number.
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