Rumor: 2022-2022 Trade Rumors and Free Agency Part 14: Sakic goes back to bed

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I'd like to see something like this next year. This would be an even more dominant team than this year.

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Why would Edmonton give up on him?

Maybe someone makes it worth their while. I was just playing around with an idea like Girard for Puljujarvi + EDM 1st, then flip the EDM 1st + Avs 2023 1st to Vancouver for JT Miller with like ~$1.25m retained. Essentially it's Girard + 1st for JT Miller + Puljujarvi.

Might be steep to give up Girard and the 1st but you get a high-end 2C for the Avs next best cup year, a young mini-Nuke, and capspace freed up to re-sign Manson.


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Girard seems the most expendable given our dominance since he's been out but will he actually carry a lot of value in a trade? I would imagine teams are nervous about his size and recovery from injury.
 
Girard seems the most expendable given our dominance since he's been out but will he actually carry a lot of value in a trade? I would imagine teams are nervous about his size and recovery from injury.
Teams get stupid in the off-season. Where you see someone recovering from injury who has a history of getting tossed around like a ragdoll in the playoffs all some teams see is a puck moving defenseman who can put up .5 ppg, QB the PP, and help them emulate the Avalanche.
 
Girard seems the most expendable given our dominance since he's been out but will he actually carry a lot of value in a trade? I would imagine teams are nervous about his size and recovery from injury.
It would get someone like Puljujärvi at least. Or I would accept that in a heartbeat if I was the Oilers.
 
Why would Edmonton give up on him?
Oilers brass were not happy with how he ended the last half of the season, coaching staff lost all trust in him, rumours that McDavid/Draisaitl would go to coaches asking to not play with Puljujariv, and the fans have turned on him on social media trying to run him out of town.

Then there's the cap issues where the Oilers want to re-sign Kane and probably have Yamamoto as more of a priority than Puljujarvi.

I think he gets moved this summer, and would love if Sakic took a chance on him. Putting him in the same room as Rantanen and Lehkonen would probably do wonders for him. The guy has nobody and has had nobody in Edmonton his entire career.
 
Has anyone's threshold for Nichushkin gone up since the last game?
It's crazy on the main boards as to Nichushkin's value on a new contract. I see a real difference between what non-Avs fans would offer Nichushkin on a new contract and Avs fans. I don't think the GMs will undervalue Nichushkin's worth like a lot of non-Avs fans are there.

I don't blame the non- Avs fans in terms of Nichushkin's valuation because what kind of player suddenly develops offensive ability after being in the NHL for years? Even beyond that though, when you actually watch Nichushkin play, you realize just how incredibly valuable the guy is. Far more so than Kadri and Burakovsky.

I don't think Nichushkin is as coveted by non-Avs fans that don't watch the Avs. Those that do, know what a valuable asset Nichushkin is.

This PO series has really enhanced Nichushkin's value compared to the last couple of runs. He needed to step up offensively and he has now done so. $5.75M-6.25M AAV. I'd say 6-8 years but you don't want to give a NMC.
 
It would get someone like Puljujärvi at least. Or I would accept that in a heartbeat if I was the Oilers.

Sakic got Kadri for an expiring Barrie and a throw in Kerfoot. Imagine what he could do with Girard and that contract? It's a young second line guy, probably a center, or you just keep Girard and have the best defense in the league.

I'm not interested in Puljujarvi in a Girard conversation.
 
It's crazy on the main boards as to Nichushkin's value on a new contract. I see a real difference between what non-Avs fans would offer Nichushkin on a new contract and Avs fans. I don't think the GMs will undervalue Nichushkin's worth like a lot of non-Avs fans are there.

I don't blame the non- Avs fans in terms of Nichushkin's valuation because what kind of player suddenly develops offensive ability after being in the NHL for years? Even beyond that though, when you actually watch Nichushkin play, you realize just how incredibly valuable the guy is. Far more so than Kadri and Burakovsky.

I don't think Nichushkin is as coveted by non-Avs fans that don't watch the Avs. Those that do, know what a valuable asset Nichushkin is.

This PO series has really enhanced Nichushkin's value compared to the last couple of runs. He needed to step up offensively and he has now done so. $5.75M-6.25M AAV. I'd say 6-8 years but you don't want to give a NMC.
Yeah, I remember that most desired FA list and was gobsmacked that Burakovksy was ranked about Nichushkin on that list. I think part of it is that teams and fans lean to heavily on points when determining valus. Can't say Nichushkin isn't scoring now though. And I agree (aside from MacKinnon), he's the most important guy to re-sign, He's one of the 4 best forwards on the team.
 
Yeah, I remember that most desired FA list and was gobsmacked that Burakovksy was ranked about Nichushkin on that list. I think part of it is that teams and fans lean to heavily on points when determining valus. Can't say Nichushkin isn't scoring now though. And I agree (aside from MacKinnon), he's the most important guy to re-sign, He's one of the 4 best forwards on the team.
That FA list gives weight to scoring. That's all that reflects. But Nichushkin is definitely the fourth most valuable F on the team.
 
Sakic got Kadri for an expiring Barrie and a throw in Kerfoot. Imagine what he could do with Girard and that contract? It's a young second line guy, probably a center, or you just keep Girard and have the best defense in the league.

I'm not interested in Puljujarvi in a Girard conversation.
Mm yeah I agree, Girard is worth more than Barrie was back then. That said, Kadri has exceeded expectations, especially this year.
 
Oilers brass were not happy with how he ended the last half of the season, coaching staff lost all trust in him, rumours that McDavid/Draisaitl would go to coaches asking to not play with Puljujariv, and the fans have turned on him on social media trying to run him out of town.

Then there's the cap issues where the Oilers want to re-sign Kane and probably have Yamamoto as more of a priority than Puljujarvi.

I think he gets moved this summer, and would love if Sakic took a chance on him. Putting him in the same room as Rantanen and Lehkonen would probably do wonders for him. The guy has nobody and has had nobody in Edmonton his entire career.
Sounds potential buy low, good upside.

Also presence of Rantanen and Lehkonen could help him a lot.
Pulju is bit of a weird guy and I think he needs some familiarity to really shine. Lehko and Rantanen could help with that.
 
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Do helm and Cogliano run it back at 1m? Surely that's in the realm of possibility.
I sure hope so, those guys can do a lot for a team expecting to be deep in the playoffs. We didn't see a ton of Cogs, but he's been great in the playoffs, and Helm played well this season but has a whole other playoff level. You need those Calvert types. In this case, instead of being able to fight, they can finish and score.
 
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It's crazy on the main boards as to Nichushkin's value on a new contract. I see a real difference between what non-Avs fans would offer Nichushkin on a new contract and Avs fans. I don't think the GMs will undervalue Nichushkin's worth like a lot of non-Avs fans are there.

I don't blame the non- Avs fans in terms of Nichushkin's valuation because what kind of player suddenly develops offensive ability after being in the NHL for years? Even beyond that though, when you actually watch Nichushkin play, you realize just how incredibly valuable the guy is. Far more so than Kadri and Burakovsky.

I don't think Nichushkin is as coveted by non-Avs fans that don't watch the Avs. Those that do, know what a valuable asset Nichushkin is.

This PO series has really enhanced Nichushkin's value compared to the last couple of runs. He needed to step up offensively and he has now done so. $5.75M-6.25M AAV. I'd say 6-8 years but you don't want to give a NMC.
I kind of get it though, at least from a production standpoint. His production this year is a complete anomaly and it’s in a contract year which is a slight red flag. But like we all know he’s massively useful regardless if he’s scoring or not, but it’s hard to justify going above 5.5 for a guy who historically scored at a 3rd line rate. Just all comes down to whether this offensive breakout is a legit breakout or just in line with what happened league wide.
 
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