Rumor: 2022-2022 Trade Rumors and Free Agency Part 14: Sakic goes back to bed

[TruePowerSlave]

Girard needs to go. They will go for the cup next season and the hobbit will get crushed once the real games start, there is no place for a player like that on a cup contender. It's already been proven multiple times that his body can't handle playoff hockey, enough is enough.

 

[Islay1989]

I'm still not 100% sure how LTIR works?


During the season this means Vegas can go up to 7.5M over the salary cap essentially I believe? But dont they have to be cap compliant when the season starts before LTIR can be used? Or not?

They can be 10% over IIRC

 

[Richard88]

Yeah, its probably more likely we hang on to Sammy, he plays on the Right side next year and our Top 4 looks like:


Toews - Makar
Byram - Girard


Which honestly is fine. That's an elite Top 4 and probably the best group in the league. EJ sticks around as well for his last year as the #3 RD but is a guy who can jump up into the Top 4 fairly easily if injuries happen as well.

Go really cheap for a #6D. There's a few interesting veteran guys IMO that could make sense. If they want a puck mover to pair with EJ, Nick Leddy would make a lot of sense, has a little snarl to his game as well. Or if they want more PKers and stay at home sorts, Calvin De Haan, Jan Ruuta, Brett Kulak... A few names to target. Honestly maybe even re-sign Ryan Murray if he's willing to take like 1x1M.


They will need to do something about the 2C spot though. Someone already mentioned it earlier but I wouldn't be surprised to see the Avs make a serious run at bringing Kadri back still. And I wouldn't even be totally surprised, after the Avs deep run this year, if Kadri doesn't go into free agency, get an offer of say 7M from a team like Philly or Ottawa, and come back to the Avs willing to take 6.5M to stay here. He's a very competitive guy and there's no doubt in my mind the taste of a deep playoff run will leave him wanting more of it.

You probably want the 6D addition to be a RHS ideally, simply to give you the option of rolling 3 D pairs, and to have another RHS on the PK. Also it EJ goes down there's no RHS in the bottom 4. Basically someone to fill the role Manson is filling right now, but on a cheaper deal unless he himself takes a reasonably cheap deal.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

Montreal Canadiens Getting Calls About Josh Anderson

Montreal Canadiens GM Kent Hughes is expected to move some veterans this summer, and Josh Anderson's name has appeared in recent rumors.

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[Ararana]

Dubas didn't really sell Kadri cheap, I know Barrie's play has fallen off but at the time of the trade he was a top 5-10 OFD defenseman in the game, and their FO had a huge hard-on for Kerfoot.

A similar trade would be something around Girard for Bennett, who knows how that works out.

Leaf fans were quite elated by the Kadri return at the time of the trade. I even saw a few 'Sakic, wut ya doing?" tweets from blue check marks.

So no I wouldn't say they sold Kadri cheap. It just didn't work out for them because Barrie was the exactly opposite type of defenseman Toronto should have been looking for. And Kerfoot doesn't move the need for any team.

 

[flyfysher]

Leaf fans were quite elated by the Kadri return at the time of the trade. I even say a few 'Sakic, wut ya doing?" tweets from blue check marks.

So no I wouldn't say they sold Kadri cheap. It just didn't work out for them because Barrie was the exactly opposite type of defenseman Toronto should have been looking for. And Kerfoot doesn't move the need for any team.

Looking back, as between Kerfoot, Jost and Compher…Compher has actually made some notable contributions to the Avs PO run this year in getting us to the SCF. And Kerfoot took the second best team TML to a 7 game series against dynasty to be TBL. And Jost led the Wild. So who knew our college line players were so truly noteworthy.

 

[shadow1]

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[TR]
[TH]To Colorado[/TH]
[TH]To Toronto[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Nazem Kadri (16g, 44p) - 3x$4.5M
Calle Rosen (1g, 1p) - 2x$0.8M
3rd Round Pick[/TD]
[TD]Tyson Barrie (14g, 59p) - 1x$2.75M (Col retains $2.75M)
Alex Kerfoot (15g, 42p) - RFA (Extended 4x$3.5M)
6th Round Pick[/TD]
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Kadri was coming off a down season and had just been suspended in the playoffs again. Value wise, I think the deal was fair. Fit wise, the deal was bad for Toronto and great for Colorado.

I see the possibility of trading Girard as akin to Kadri trading Toronto (aka the bad scenario from above).

Like Kadri, Girard is signed to a good deal and is coming off a down season. Like Toronto at that time, Colorado has a surplus at a position (LHD for Colorado, C for Toronto) but has a hole to fill elsewhere. Though I think Sakic is more savvy than Dubas (by a lot), he's not infallible. I would hate to see him make a mistake with a young, cost controlled player.

Tampa has featured Hedman, McDonagh, and Sergachev on different pairings for years; all three players get their minutes and and Tampa has two cups with this style of defense. There's no reason Colorado can't do the same with Byram, Girard, and Toews. Especially not when Byram has a grand total of 49 regular season games to his name due to multiple (is it 3?) concussions.

 

[Muffin]

$25.6M to work with in the offseason. Let's say $20M after re-signing Lehkonen to be safe.

To hopefully re-sign:

Nishukin: 6x6
Manson 4x4
Helm 1x1
Cogliano 1x1

Leaves about 8M to grab a 2C/Goalie. Really think the best move for the franchise is to move Girard for a top 6 forward.

 

[dahrougem2]

$25.6M to work with in the offseason. Let's say $20M after re-signing Lehkonen to be safe.

To hopefully re-sign:

Nishukin: 6x6
Manson 4x4
Helm 1x1
Cogliano 1x1

Leaves about 8M to grab a 2C/Goalie. Really think the best move for the franchise is to move Girard for a top 6 forward.

Lehkonen is not costing 5.6M

 

[Mighty Makar]

I think G was playing great before he was hurt, but I believe he should be traded for a forward. Byram is more than capable of taking his spot. I hope we sign Manson.

Toews Makar
Byram Manson

That’s my wish for the top 4 next season. Bo’s concussion history worries me, though. I think Joe may keep G around ‘cause of that.

 

[dahrougem2]

I think G was playing great before he was hurt, but I believe he should be traded for a forward. Byram is more than capable of taking his spot. I hope we sign Manson.

Toews Makar
Byram Manson

That’s my wish for the top 4 next season. Bo’s concussion history worries me, though. I think Joe may keep G around ‘cause of that.

You can't operate cautiously. Bo is showing these playoffs that the concussion issues are hopefully behind him.

They both need top-4 minutes to be effective, you can't saddle one of them on the 3rd pairing and I think Joe knows that. I think we see Girard traded this summer.

 

[flyfysher]

Amazing how quickly the narrative of how dumb it would be to trade Girard to now Byram can replace him has changed.

I'm a big Girard fan but it's a matter of how Sakic wants to structure the D-corps. Just really happy for Byram and a little sad for Girard. He was a big part in helping to get the team to the SCF.

 

[Muffin]

Amazing how quickly the narrative of how dumb it would be to trade Girard to now Byram can replace him has changed.

I'm a big Girard fan but it's a matter of how Sakic wants to structure the D-corps. Just really happy for Byram and a little sad for Girard. He was a big part in helping to get the team to the SCF.

Was he really? We would’ve won the Nashville series regardless and he basically only played one game in the St Louis series. If anything these playoffs has shown he’s a luxury and we need the help up front after losing Kadri and Burakovsky.

 

[flyfysher]

Was he really? We would’ve won the Nashville series regardless and he basically only played one game in the St Louis series. If anything these playoffs has shown he’s a luxury and we need the help up front after losing Kadri and Burakovsky.

I meant in the larger sense of getting to the SCF since Girard was traded here from Nashville. It's almost as if the Avs had to go through getting bounced from the POs in seasons past in the manner that they did. They had to deal with injuries and bad calls. They had to become more structured both offensively and defensively. They had to become more physical in the bottom 6. They needed more depth on D. It's just part of a process.

Girard was integral in terms of helping enable and define the Avs breakout/transition style of play under JB. Byram is, IMO, a better fit though.

 

[Chiarelli]

Keep them both. All of our fairy boy d men miss time due to injury.



This site sucks so bad on a cellphone

 

[shadow1]

I'm in the minority but I think Colorado should move on from Manson unless it's a short, team friendly deal.

If the Avalanche win the cup, I'll be forever grateful for his heroics in Games 1 & 6 against St. Louis. Overall in the playoffs, he's been really solid. But he was really bad in the regular season and he's playing third pairing minutes in the post-season lately (14:25 over his last 6 games), even with a Girard-sized hole in the blue line.

We've seen what Manson can look like when he's bad (Game 1 against Edmonton) and I just feel his next contract is going to age like milk.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

I'm in the minority but I think Colorado should move on from Manson unless it's a short, team friendly deal.

If the Avalanche win the cup, I'll be forever grateful for his heroics in Games 1 & 6 against St. Louis. Overall in the playoffs, he's been really solid. But he was really bad in the regular season and he's playing third pairing minutes in the post-season lately (14:25 over his last 6 games), even with a Girard-sized hole in the blue line.

We've seen what Manson can look like when he's bad (Game 1 against Edmonton) and I just feel his next contract is going to age like milk.

Nah, you're definitely not in the minority with that take.

It would be so incredibly dumb to keep Manson just for him to play 3rd pairing minutes, and on top of that to pay him $4M+ The Avs should basically be keeping one of EJ or Manson for next year, but not both. The easy choice is EJ.

Just move on from Manson and get a cheap #5/6D for the third pairing to play with EJ. Even if a quality Girard trade shakes loose during the draft or something... Stay away from Manson unless he takes a big discount to keep chasing cups.

 

[dahrougem2]

I'm in the minority but I think Colorado should move on from Manson unless it's a short, team friendly deal.

If the Avalanche win the cup, I'll be forever grateful for his heroics in Games 1 & 6 against St. Louis. Overall in the playoffs, he's been really solid. But he was really bad in the regular season and he's playing third pairing minutes in the post-season lately (14:25 over his last 6 games), even with a Girard-sized hole in the blue line.

We've seen what Manson can look like when he's bad (Game 1 against Edmonton) and I just feel his next contract is going to age like milk.

Someone is going to pay Manson 4+M per season on a 4/5 year deal and I hope the Avs stay far, far away.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

Someone is going to pay Manson 4+M per season on a 4/5 year deal and I hope the Avs stay far, far away.

Edmonton makes sense with his Dad there. They will need Dmen, especially if they trade Barrie and Keith retires.

 

[Muffin]

Nah, you're definitely not in the minority with that take.

It would be so incredibly dumb to keep Manson just for him to play 3rd pairing minutes, and on top of that to pay him $4M+ The Avs should basically be keeping one of EJ or Manson for next year, but not both. The easy choice is EJ.

Just move on from Manson and get a cheap #5/6D for the third pairing to play with EJ. Even if a quality Girard trade shakes loose during the draft or something... Stay away from Manson unless he takes a big discount to keep chasing cups.

Manson's minute isn't really indicative of how he's playing, Bednar just doesn't want to break up EJ and Byram so Manson ends up with JJ. I feel like Manson has untapped offensive potential, if he played the whole season here it wouldn't surprise me if he returned to 17-18 form and put up 30-40 points. Also can you really count on EJ being fully for a whole season again?

On Girard, it's obvious he's not in the long term plans of this franchise with Behrens coming up. It's a matter of if they trade him now or later when Behrens is ready.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

I put this together on Cap Friendly really quickly last night as well, a way to mostly keep the team together for next year:


- Re-sign Lehkonen(2x3.5M). I'd like to go longer term, but I think at 4 years he's going to ask for 4-4.5M... At which point I would just rather get the two more runs in with him at a cheap cap hit.

- Re-sign Nichushkin(6x5M). The 6th year gets him to come in at 5M instead of say 5.5M.

- Re-Sign Cogliano(1x800k). League minimum contract as Cogs continues chasing cups with the Avs.

- Re-Sign Nazem Kadri(4x6.5M). Kadri goes to free agency on July 13th but ends up back with the Avs for 500k less.

- Trade NAKs RFA rights to a bubble team for a 2022 4th round pick

- Sign UFA Goalie Ville Husso(3x4M). Avs walk away from Kuemper, go with the younger guy in Husso to basically fight for the starters spot with Francouz. He put up good numbers on pretty bad defensive Blues team.

- Sign UFA Dman Nick Leddy(1x1M). 3rd Pairing Puck Moving Dman that you can pair with EJ for next year and he can help with PP2 depending on the injury situations throughout the season.

- Sign UFA Forward Nick Paul(4x3.75M). Not sure if that's enough to get him signed or not but at least make a push for him. Fills out the 3rd line quite nicely and is a guy that can play up the lineup effectively as we are seeing with him in Tampa Bay.


Roster ends up looking like this:


Nuke - Mack - Landy
Lehky - Kadri - Rantanen
JTC - Paul - Newhook
LOC - Meyers - Cogliano
Sedlak


Toews - Makar
Byram - Girard
Leddy - Johnson
MacDermid


Husso
Francouz


Total salary ends up being 82.25M. So 225K in cap space after our overage penalty of $25,000.

 

[Muffin]

I put this together on Cap Friendly really quickly last night as well, a way to mostly keep the team together for next year:


- Re-sign Lehkonen(2x3.5M). I'd like to go longer term, but I think at 4 years he's going to ask for 4-4.5M... At which point I would just rather get the two more runs in with him at a cheap cap hit.

- Re-sign Nichushkin(6x5M). The 6th year gets him to come in at 5M instead of say 5.5M.

- Re-Sign Cogliano(1x800k). League minimum contract as Cogs continues chasing cups with the Avs.

- Re-Sign Nazem Kadri(4x6.5M). Kadri goes to free agency on July 13th but ends up back with the Avs for 500k less.

- Trade NAKs RFA rights to a bubble team for a 2022 4th round pick

- Sign UFA Goalie Ville Husso(3x4M). Avs walk away from Kuemper, go with the younger guy in Husso to basically fight for the starters spot with Francouz. He put up good numbers on pretty bad defensive Blues team.

- Sign UFA Dman Nick Leddy(1x1M). 3rd Pairing Puck Moving Dman that you can pair with EJ for next year and he can help with PP2 depending on the injury situations throughout the season.

- Sign UFA Forward Nick Paul(4x3.75M). Not sure if that's enough to get him signed or not but at least make a push for him. Fills out the 3rd line quite nicely and is a guy that can play up the lineup effectively as we are seeing with him in Tampa Bay.


Roster ends up looking like this:


Nuke - Mack - Landy
Lehky - Kadri - Rantanen
JTC - Paul - Newhook
LOC - Meyers - Cogliano
Sedlak


Toews - Makar
Byram - Girard
Leddy - Johnson
MacDermid


Husso
Francouz


Total salary ends up being 82.25M. So 225K in cap space after our overage penalty of $25,000.

Oh hell nah to Nick Paul for 3.75M. You all complain about Compher and are somehow ready to give someone worse than him more money.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Oh hell nah to Nick Paul for 3.75M. You all complain about Compher and are somehow ready to give someone worse than him more money.

I dont even complain about JTC.... Paul is a significantly better player. Quite frankly I dont think 3.75M is enough like I said, that was the most optimistic signing of all the signings.

 

[Muffin]

I dont even complain about JTC.... Paul is a significantly better player. Quite frankly I dont think 3.75M is enough like I said, that was the most optimistic signing of all the signings.

Gonna have to disagree with that and I honestly don't see an argument for it either. In what world is a career high 20 point player looking for almost 4M? And that's optimistic?

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

Bratt, Beauvillier and Blackwood join the latest Trade Targets list

With less than three weeks until the NHL Draft, Frank Seravalli is back with 30 names in play on the...

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One day after the NHL’s first real trade of the summer went down, we’re back with a fresh Trade Targets list after two players (Evgenii Dadonov and Shea Weber) on the board were traded for each other.

Goaltender John Gibson climbed to No. 5 from No. 7 after his trade request became public. We also added new names Jesper Bratt, Anthony Beauvillier, Alec Martinez, Mackenzie Blackwood and Kasperi Kapanen to the list.

9. Pavel Zacha
Center, New Jersey Devils
Age: 25
Stats: 70 GP, 15 G, 21 A, 36 Pts
Contract: Pending RFA, Arbitration Eligible
Scoop: It’s never a problem to be well-built down the middle, but it feels like the Devils have run out of room for Zacha in New Jersey with Jack Hughes and Nico Hischier ahead of him at center. Zacha hit a new career-high in points (36) last season while playing the most minutes (1,179) of his career. There’d be no harm if the Devils were to keep Zacha, the sense is that they’d be able to better parlay a return for him into more help elsewhere in the lineup.

10. Jesper Bratt
Right Wing, New Jersey Devils
Age: 23
Stats: 76 GP, 26 G, 47 A, 73 Pts
Contract: Pending RFA, Arbitration Eligible
Scoop: Admittedly, Bratt is a bit of a perplexing name on the board. GM Tom Fitzgerald said after the season Bratt is a big part of New Jersey’s future. Makes sense. He is a heck of a player. He’s young. He’s worked his way to become a point-per-game guy from a sixth-round pick. On the other hand, sources indicated Bratt was available at the deadline last spring. To my knowledge, there have been no contract extension talks to this point for what will be an expensive deal. Add in Fitzgerald’s mandate to find “hard skill” this summer, and well, it makes you wonder.

I'd love for Joe to add both these two.