Rumor: 2022-2022 Trade Rumors and Free Agency Part 14: Sakic goes back to bed

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I wouldn't go anywhere near Zacha, but if Bratt is actually available he'd be one of my top targets as well. Though he's going to get a pretty significant pay raise this summer. 73 points in 76 games last year and should have had more.
 
I wouldn't go anywhere near Zacha, but if Bratt is actually available he'd be one of my top targets as well. Though he's going to get a pretty significant pay raise this summer. 73 points in 76 games last year and should have had more.

If Bratt is available Tom Fitzgerald is a f***ing moron and should be fired on the spot.
 
I'm in the minority but I think Colorado should move on from Manson unless it's a short, team friendly deal.

If the Avalanche win the cup, I'll be forever grateful for his heroics in Games 1 & 6 against St. Louis. Overall in the playoffs, he's been really solid. But he was really bad in the regular season and he's playing third pairing minutes in the post-season lately (14:25 over his last 6 games), even with a Girard-sized hole in the blue line.

We've seen what Manson can look like when he's bad (Game 1 against Edmonton) and I just feel his next contract is going to age like milk.
I'm with you. I'd love to have him back of course, but only on a reasonable contract. We can't afford to overpay for old depth players. Unless it's like a 1 year deal, then you can pay as much as you happen to have after other acquisitions.

Manson's minute isn't really indicative of how he's playing, Bednar just doesn't want to break up EJ and Byram so Manson ends up with JJ. I feel like Manson has untapped offensive potential, if he played the whole season here it wouldn't surprise me if he returned to 17-18 form and put up 30-40 points. Also can you really count on EJ being fully for a whole season again?

On Girard, it's obvious he's not in the long term plans of this franchise with Behrens coming up. It's a matter of if they trade him now or later when Behrens is ready.
You would definitely wait until Behrens is ready or you'll be making a gamble. If that is the plan anyway.
 
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Leaf fans were quite elated by the Kadri return at the time of the trade. I even saw a few 'Sakic, wut ya doing?" tweets from blue check marks.

So no I wouldn't say they sold Kadri cheap. It just didn't work out for them because Barrie was the exactly opposite type of defenseman Toronto should have been looking for. And Kerfoot doesn't move the need for any team.
They were under the misconception that Dubas was an analyticAl genius and Kerfoot was a defensive stalwart. One of Dubas’ lickspittle journalists went as far to declare Kerfoot ”a better asset than Kadri”.
 
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Devils are shopping their #2 pick because they think they are ready to compete right now. They definitely are not, and it will end badly if they go all-in.
Well, they need to do something, they shouldn’t blow it up, there’s a good core in place. A ton of their misery was due to having the worst goaltending in the league. Get that squared away (and hopefully their top two centers can stay healthy) and they’re competitive at the least.

But rebuild or not, if you can’t build around a player like Bratt then don’t bother.
 
Honestly I don't think the Devils are far off.


They have fantastic Centers with Hughes and Hischier and both are on great contracts. They have Dougie Hamilton who is a high end #2D if not a #1 guy. And a hell of a kid coming in Luke Hughes.


But trading Bratt would so counterproductive. Unless they feel he's going to make too much money and are planning to replace him by trading the #2 overall pick.
 
I put this together on Cap Friendly really quickly last night as well, a way to mostly keep the team together for next year:


- Re-sign Lehkonen(2x3.5M). I'd like to go longer term, but I think at 4 years he's going to ask for 4-4.5M... At which point I would just rather get the two more runs in with him at a cheap cap hit.

- Re-sign Nichushkin(6x5M). The 6th year gets him to come in at 5M instead of say 5.5M.

- Re-Sign Cogliano(1x800k). League minimum contract as Cogs continues chasing cups with the Avs.

- Re-Sign Nazem Kadri(4x6.5M). Kadri goes to free agency on July 13th but ends up back with the Avs for 500k less.

- Trade NAKs RFA rights to a bubble team for a 2022 4th round pick

- Sign UFA Goalie Ville Husso(3x4M). Avs walk away from Kuemper, go with the younger guy in Husso to basically fight for the starters spot with Francouz. He put up good numbers on pretty bad defensive Blues team.

- Sign UFA Dman Nick Leddy(1x1M). 3rd Pairing Puck Moving Dman that you can pair with EJ for next year and he can help with PP2 depending on the injury situations throughout the season.

- Sign UFA Forward Nick Paul(4x3.75M). Not sure if that's enough to get him signed or not but at least make a push for him. Fills out the 3rd line quite nicely and is a guy that can play up the lineup effectively as we are seeing with him in Tampa Bay.


Roster ends up looking like this:


Nuke - Mack - Landy
Lehky - Kadri - Rantanen
JTC - Paul - Newhook
LOC - Meyers - Cogliano
Sedlak


Toews - Makar
Byram - Girard
Leddy - Johnson
MacDermid


Husso
Francouz


Total salary ends up being 82.25M. So 225K in cap space after our overage penalty of $25,000.

Interesting takes. For the most part I like what you've done, but I hate the idea of only getting Lehkonen for 2 years.

Barron + 2nd was a high price to pay (worth it though) so it would be ideal to get more years. If it only comes down to like $500k-$750k, go with the extra years.

We already know he's awesome on this team and was also great in Montreal. For all we know he could explode like Nichuskin and then we'd be kicking ourselves that we didn't go longer term. Just imagine having Nichuskin locked in for another two years at $3.5-4m...

Lebrun's article emphasizes how keen Sakic was to get Lehkonen and the Avs are known to have liked him for years, do I think they go long term with him.

As for the other moves, not sure another LHD puckmover is the way to go on the bottom pair. Rather get a RHS or versatile LHS (De Haan?) who can eat PK minutes. If EJ getd injured (as he has done 3 of the last 4 years) then that top 6 also wouldn't have much size.
 
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I put this together on Cap Friendly really quickly last night as well, a way to mostly keep the team together for next year:


- Re-sign Lehkonen(2x3.5M). I'd like to go longer term, but I think at 4 years he's going to ask for 4-4.5M... At which point I would just rather get the two more runs in with him at a cheap cap hit.

- Re-sign Nichushkin(6x5M). The 6th year gets him to come in at 5M instead of say 5.5M.

- Re-Sign Cogliano(1x800k). League minimum contract as Cogs continues chasing cups with the Avs.

- Re-Sign Nazem Kadri(4x6.5M). Kadri goes to free agency on July 13th but ends up back with the Avs for 500k less.

- Trade NAKs RFA rights to a bubble team for a 2022 4th round pick

- Sign UFA Goalie Ville Husso(3x4M). Avs walk away from Kuemper, go with the younger guy in Husso to basically fight for the starters spot with Francouz. He put up good numbers on pretty bad defensive Blues team.

- Sign UFA Dman Nick Leddy(1x1M). 3rd Pairing Puck Moving Dman that you can pair with EJ for next year and he can help with PP2 depending on the injury situations throughout the season.

- Sign UFA Forward Nick Paul(4x3.75M). Not sure if that's enough to get him signed or not but at least make a push for him. Fills out the 3rd line quite nicely and is a guy that can play up the lineup effectively as we are seeing with him in Tampa Bay.


Roster ends up looking like this:


Nuke - Mack - Landy
Lehky - Kadri - Rantanen
JTC - Paul - Newhook
LOC - Meyers - Cogliano
Sedlak


Toews - Makar
Byram - Girard
Leddy - Johnson
MacDermid


Husso
Francouz


Total salary ends up being 82.25M. So 225K in cap space after our overage penalty of $25,000.

Interesting takes. For the most part I like what you've done, but I hate the idea of only getting Lehkonen for 2 years.

Barron + 2nd was a high price to pay (worth it though) so it would be ideal to get more years. If it only comes down to like $500k-$750k, go with the extra years.

We already know he's awesome on this team and was also great in Montreal. For all we know he could explode like Nichuskin and then we'd be kicking ourselves that we didn't go longer term. Just imagine having Nichuskin locked in for another two years at $3.5-4m...

Lebrun's article emphasizes how keen Sakic was to get Lehkonen and the Avs are known to have liked him for years, do I think they go long term with him.





I'd love for Joe to add both these two.

A couple of thoughts I had while reading through that list:

NYI seem like a good trade partner for the Avs. Beauvilier and Varlamov could potentially be of interest, and if they're made available Nelson and Mayfield would suit the Avs well as well. Their biggest needs are: a LHS puckmover; a top 6 scoring winger; and getting younger... which matches the Avs best potential trade chips in Girard, Newhook, and Burakovsky's UFA rights.

Secondly, I wonder if a deal with Seattle could be made involving Carson Soucy (who's on that list) and Gourde. Something around Girard and Newhook maybe (add picks on either side as appropriate to balance value). Avs get a 2C with term which would form a nightmare shutdown line of Nichuskin-Gourde-Lehkonen, and a replacement in the top 4 for Girard (or Manson depending on how you look at it). Seattle get two really nice young players.
 
Honestly I don't think the Devils are far off.


They have fantastic Centers with Hughes and Hischier and both are on great contracts. They have Dougie Hamilton who is a high end #2D if not a #1 guy. And a hell of a kid coming in Luke Hughes.


But trading Bratt would so counterproductive. Unless they feel he's going to make too much money and are planning to replace him by trading the #2 overall pick.

NJ need MORE top 6 wingers, not less. It would be pretty dumb to trade Bratt.

Speaking of NJ I wonder if they wouldn't be interested in Burakovsky's UFA rights. I've seen a few NJ fans over the course of the season asking about his availability, they seem to think he'd be a good fit there.
 
I'll hate it if they do with Lehk the same thing that they did with Bura and Nuke (they walked them from RFA to UFA with 2 year contracts)

I bet that will happen. Why would any RFA sign for anything but the minimum? It's all about money. Two years is a courtesy.
 
Honestly I don't think the Devils are far off.


They have fantastic Centers with Hughes and Hischier and both are on great contracts. They have Dougie Hamilton who is a high end #2D if not a #1 guy. And a hell of a kid coming in Luke Hughes.


But trading Bratt would so counterproductive. Unless they feel he's going to make too much money and are planning to replace him by trading the #2 overall pick.
If Mackenzie Blackwood can get his shit together you are right they arent that far off. I have a weird like for Sharangovich it rivals my Viktor Kozlov like in the early 2000s when he was in Florida.
 
NJ need MORE top 6 wingers, not less. It would be pretty dumb to trade Bratt.

Speaking of NJ I wonder if they wouldn't be interested in Burakovsky's UFA rights. I've seen a few NJ fans over the course of the season asking about his availability, they seem to think he'd be a good fit there.

Ya, unless they're planning to trade the #2 pick for a top end 1st line winger and don't think they can afford Bratt
 
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