Would seem like the logical players that the Avs would absolutely say no too and MTL would want. But JML in his Spittin Chiclets interview did say that the only prospect (not counting Newhook/Byram as prospects) that the Avs wouldn't move was Annunen, and the way he said it kind of seemed like he may have been an ask in some of the trade talks Joe had.
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I think Annunen being unavailable is more of an organizational need thing. I can’t see why Montreal would value Annunen over Barron.
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Sounds like Hughes' strategy was to ask for Byram and settle for Barron.I was told Barron wouldn’t be traded.
I don't know the details of that trade... I do know Barron's name was out there for a while prior to the trade.
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I hope you're right. You can see the Lehkonen acquisition as a hedge. Or you can see it as an example of how the front office values players like this.
Quite honestly, the Avs have been rewarded for their focus on analytics. It's logical to think Lehkonen is full buy-in on that. If the Avs were to go back in time and be forced to choose the Nichushkin acquisition or the Burakovsky acquisition, it seems pretty obvious what they would choose. A lot of teams are still giving out contracts for points. There's hidden value in players like this, which will eventually increase their value on the open market and possibly diminish a player like Burakovsky's. I was surprised to see Burakovsky ranked well ahead of Nichushkin on that most desired FAs list a short time ago.
Damn, it came that close to not happening to the point that Hughes actually told MSL and the coaches that Lehkonen was staying.
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I really disagree with this. Nuke will make less than lucic and okposo did 4 years ago.
If you seriously believe this you're more like your online handle's namesake than you realize.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’ll add one note - when it was looking like Colorado might not be able to re-sign Landeskog they talked to Nashville about acquiring Filip Forsberg to replace him.</p>— Jeff Marek (@JeffMarek) <a href="">June 15, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
I bet you the Avs are gonna be serious player for Forsberg this summer. Not sure how they'll make it work from a cap perspective but I bet if he makes it to Free Agency the Avs are gonna try and get him.
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Wouldn't it be lovely for once to sign a big name free agent at a discount who wants a chance at a Cup? Not saying Forsberg in particular but would just love to get a guy on a great deal because he wants to win with us. Hoping this Cup run changes some players minds on how good a team we can be. My pipe dream is Bergeron.
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Maybe they skip adding a 2C and just hope Rantanen/Newhook/Meyers can be good enough centers. That might work with play driving wingers on each line.
Landeskog - MacKinnon - Nichuskin
Forsberg - Rantanen - Lehkonen
Newhook - Meyers - Compher
If you can then find a way to add a legit 2C at the deadline (eg. JT Miller) you've got an absolutely stacked forward group.
Even without a 2C you might be able to get away with Meyers/Compher/Newhook at 2C if you have Forsberg and Rantanen on either side, which also allows for Lehkonen to move to the 3rd line and balance lines a bit.
As for cap, probably gotta save somewhere by going cheap with the goalie and/or not bringing Manson back, or maybe even moving EJ. They should have the flexibility to target Forsberg though if that's what they want to do.
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I don't see how they can pay Forsberg $8M+ and Nuke $5M+, and still sign all of Kuemper, Manson, and Lehkonen. If they go after Forsberg, my guess is Nuke is gonzo.
I'm assuming Nuke is gone, if they go after Forsberg honestly, and so some of his ~5M we're expecting him to get would end up with Forsberg. Tbh if they do lose Nuke, they could definitely afford Forsberg at ~7M. Or bringing back Kadri as well at around 6.5-7M.
Its going to be really, really interesting to see what Joe does this summer. There's a lot of pieces that could be moved to make quite a bit of cap space honestly.
For example if we can win the cup this year I gotta believe it becomes a lot easier for the Avs to trade EJ in the summer or honestly for EJ to just retire. Byram continues to make Girard look somewhat expendable and so if you use him in a trade that's also $5M that can go somewhere else(The idea of trading Girard for a 2C is most intriguing to me).
But ya the Avs have been linked to Forsberg so many times in the last couple years that I'm pretty confident if he makes it to free agency the Avs will at least make a run at him and see what they cant figure out from that.
Yeah, I mean to be fair if the Avs had the option of signing Forsberg and then one of Nuke/Manson, you sign Nuke all day. I really dont think they should be anywhere near Manson this summer unless he's willing to take a significant discount.
Ditto Kuemper. We'll have to wait and see what he does in the Final here but I think I'd part ways with Darcy if he's looking for anything north of ~4.5M this summer. Go get a guy to run in tandem with Francouz even, like Husso, Fleury or maybe Campbell.
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As a % of total team salary cap it will be less
as a % of the cap I bet they make less than those contracts
You always start with a high ask, cause they might say yes. (see: Dorian, Pierre)
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Give Nuke a blank check. Enough said.
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I wouldn’t be shocked to see Sakic trade Newhook+ to get a 2C with term. Especially if we don’t win the Cup.
Still think Nuke takes a small discount to stay with us, but each playoff game he plays is raising his price tag a little bit more.
I think Girard gets traded for a 2C now that Byram's kinda settled in nicely.
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