Prospect Info: 2022 - 1st OA] Juraj Slafkovsky (LW) Part 4

[ZUKI]

Why not? Provide the context and maybe people stop talking about it?

he' an European player. he can play more than the 9 games limit rule for the junior players of the CHL

 

[Captain Mountain]

KK was playing 4 minutes more a game, for starters.

In KK's first 7 games:

14:16 TOI/G
11:35 5v5 TOI/G

In Slafkovsky's first 7 games:

11:25 TOI/G
11:03 5v5 TOI/G

If we're going to be incredibly nitpicky here through 7 games (we shouldn't), the difference in icetime is almost entirely that KK played on the PP to start the season and Slafkovsky hasn't. And Slafkovsky not playing on the PP to start the season was a conscious choice by the coaching staff with a view on his development

 

[Mrb1p]

In KK's first 7 games:

14:16 TOI/G
11:35 5v5 TOI/G

In Slafkovsky's first 7 games:

11:25 TOI/G
11:03 5v5 TOI/G

If we're going to be incredibly nitpicky here through 7 games (we shouldn't), the difference in icetime is almost entirely that KK played on the PP to start the season and Slafkovsky hasn't. And Slafkovsky not playing on the PP to start the season was a conscious choice by the coaching staff with a view on his development

So thanks its literally what I said. Even KK wasnt brought up like this.

 

[CHfan1]

Why are people talking about 9 games for Slafkovsky? It does not apply to him…

he' an European player. he can play more than the 9 games limit rule for the junior players of the CHL

If he doesn’t play more than 9 games in the NHL this season his ELC slides a year, which is the reason people are talking about it.

I think he’ll play more than 9 games, even if he is sent to Laval shortly. I think they’d bring him back up at some point.

 

[Captain Mountain]

So thanks its literally what I said. Even KK wasnt brought up like this.

I'm not sure you know what you said. You're using deployment and development interchangably. That doesn't make sense period, but over a 7 game sample it really doesn't make sense.

 

[Habs Halifax]

he' an European player. he can play more than the 9 games limit rule for the junior players of the CHL

So the 10 games and then ELC kicks in only applies to CHL? Not sure about that one

 

[SlafySZN]

So the 10 games and then ELC kicks in only applies to CHL? Not sure about that one

Yes it does only apply to CHL players if i’m not mistaken, he still burns a year off his ELC if he is in Laval.

 

[CHfan1]

Yes it does only apply to CHL players if i’m not mistaken, he still burns a year off his ELC if he is in Laval.

He only burns a year if he plays more than 9 games in the NHL:

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[Egresch]

If a player who is signed to an entry-level contract and is 18 or 19 years of age (as of September 15 of the signing year), does not play in a minimum of 10 NHL games (including both regular season and playoffs; AHL games do not count), their contract is considered to ‘slide’, or extend, by one year.

 

[Just this once]

The sliding is the same with every player. The contract does not slide if there is more than 9 games played.
The only difference is that Europeans can be sent to the AHL, while the CHL can't.

You could play a CHL player 20 games and then send him back to junior, but the contract won't slide, so nobody does it, it would just be a bad management move. The reason you burn the ELC is to have the player around, either in the NHL or the AHL, so it defeats the point if you send them back in junior because they then stay there for the season.

Unless he is a clear top 6 player, I don't see the point in burning his contract, he can develop somewhere else just as good, but I would prefer Europe since it's better than the CHL, and I don't think he should be in the AHL at his age either. Every game I watched, he got close to an injury at least once, and it was twice last game, one of them possibly career ending potentially. It's the spot Pacioretty got his concussion. So yeah, Europe is better in my opinion for him at this point. He'll still be there next year or in two years, probably a much better player than now. It's just deferring the excitement let's say and you get three good years instead of maybe one, the other two being "progress".

By the way, development at this age is individual. Coaches in the NHL simply don't have time for individual development of players, they barely have time for team coaching. The AHL is team coaching as well mostly. so for older players. CHL and Europe have more time for individuals because there are less games and less travel time. I don't think he is where he should be individually, so it's where he should play.

 

[Kennerback]

Lines 2 to 4 Tonight are

Anderson-Dvorak-Gallagher
Drouin-Monahan-Armia

Pitlick-Evans-Slafkovsky

Assuming no changes in the near future on Line 1, I would at some point either concentrate offence or leverage size on the 3rd line. Do:
Drouin-Monahan-Slafkofsky, Anderson-Monahan-Slafkovsky or even Slaf-Monahan-Armia.
And the 4th line would become a pure energy line.

 

[nhlfan9191]

Lines 2 to 4 Tonight are

Anderson-Dvorak-Gallagher
Drouin-Monahan-Armia

Pitlick-Evans-Slafkovsky

Assuming no changes in the near future on Line 1, I would at some point either concentrate offence or leverage size on the 3rd line. Do:
Drouin-Monahan-Slafkofsky, Anderson-Monahan-Slafkovsky or even Slaf-Monahan-Armia.
And the 4th line would become a pure energy line.

This is the problem you run into when you keep Slafkovsky in the NHL which is what you want so bad. You want St. Louis to focus on developing by doing what you think is best for Slafkovsky. But an NHL coach doesn’t care. His concern is winning games.

 

[Egresch]

This is the problem you run into when you keep Slafkovsky in the NHL which is what you want so bad. You want St. Louis to focus on developing by doing what you think is best for Slafkovsky. But an NHL coach doesn’t care. His concern is winning games.

This is a special mode called "Habs 2023". Nobody is really concerned about winning, development of key young players is more important.

 

[Scriptor]

I still would put Slafkovsky with Drouin and Monahan above Armia, or with Monahan and Armia above Drouin. With for different styles of play but, both with something to learn from it.

 

[nhlfan9191]

This is a special mode called "Habs 2023". Nobody is really concerned about winning, development of key young players is more important.

If this was true, Slafkovsky wouldn’t be playing with 4th line players or being held off the PP at any point. This isn’t a development league regardless of where we are in a rebuild.

 

[Egresch]

If this was true, Slafkovsky wouldn’t be playing with 4th line players or being held off the PP at any point. This isn’t a development league regardless of where we are in a rebuild.

Well I am watching Slaf for few years and I believe that this approach of limited NHL ice- time is absolutely OK for his development. They are just patient and do not give him too much responsibilities too soon. Every player is specific. You cannot apply CHL- AHL- NHL pattern to everyone.
Btw, for Mesar I truly believe it is the best way, but Slaf is different.

 

[Retired]

This is the problem you run into when you keep Slafkovsky in the NHL which is what you want so bad. You want St. Louis to focus on developing by doing what you think is best for Slafkovsky. But an NHL coach doesn’t care. His concern is winning games.

And showcasing deadwood.

 

[BenchBrawl]

Who cares about sliding his contract? That's a pointless consideration in the grand scheme of things. I *HOPE* Slaf eventually deserves a big time contract. Means he became a great player.

 

[Father Roy Richards]

Do explain what the Good Book has to do with Slafkovsky?

I didn’t specify which good book, my Son. Perhaps I was referring to the Montreal Canadiens Media Guide.

 

[SoupNazi]

I didn’t specify which good book, my Son. Perhaps I was referring to the Montreal Canadiens Media Guide.

Who refers to the Montreal Canadiens Media Guide as the "Good Book," my father?

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Testify. It will always be okay. A little time with the Good Book helps keeps things in perspective. Slafkovsky will learn how to use his size and strength in very short order, not only is he 18 years old but he has 7 career NHL games. He has the strength/size, the next step is learning how to impose it in the NHL, it may take a little more time than we'd like but you can see what a monster he will be on the boards already.

Hopefully Slaf is smart enough to know that the "good book" is a fictional work and has resulted in anything but good....acknowledging this fact is also a marker for elevated IQ so keep that nonsense away from our 18 year old saviour!

 

[MonkeyBusiness]

I think proselytizing should be kept away from a hockey board. Why do religious fundamentalists always need to find a way to shoehorn religious ideology in all their conversations?

 

[The Great Weal]

He will get moved up when he can show he can consistently dominate against the other teams bottom 6 like how Suzuki did.

 

[Retired]

I think proselytizing should be kept away from a hockey board. Why do religious fundamentalists always need to find a way to shoehorn religious ideology in all their conversations?

I only believe in the sainte flanelle and as such leafs fans must be exorcized.

 

[Gravity]

He will get moved up when he can show he can consistently dominate against the other teams bottom 6 like how Suzuki did.

Exactly what I was thinking. I remember Suzuki playing with Thompson on the 4th.