BehindTheTimes
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I don’t think that is a red flag. GM’s and scouts constantly make poor decisions. This is just another one.
Prospect Info: 2022 - 1st OA] Juraj Slafkovsky (LW) Part 4
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Sorinth
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So he has 5 points in his last 7 games (TOI of 13:26), if he can keep that up for the rest of the season he would finish with 48 points which is a very solid rookie year. And since his TOI is likely to continue to rise as the season progresses it's certainly doable.
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It's obviously not a red flag. Being passed at the draft is a function of a player's red flags, or put in other ways, it's downstream from his perceived deficiencies. And we know teams draft busts and make mistakes at the draft table all the time -- we know it because our team is awful at drafting forward talent.
Wright's red flags are well known (and not our problem any more, thus irrelevant). Slaf's red flags have been dismissed, minimized, and otherwise ignored. It makes it very difficult to discuss the player when some people are in abject denial of his weaknesses and therefore have no interest in discussing what the Habs should do for him to overcome and improve them.
It's hard to do worse than a 10pt season, so there was only one way to go. You'd hope a top prospect improves year-on-year between 17 and 18.10 points in 24 games already.
Last year he had 10 points in 31 Liiga games.
This Ligue Nationale de hockey looks much easier
Alert: This is sarcasm.
Yes, it looks like he's steadily improving and MSL is going to give him more minutes. I'm concerned about the wall some rookies hit around Jan Feb when they slow down due to inexperience and lack of physical stamina but if that effect is minimized then it could be that he ends with 40+ pts which implies he's made good plays and has becoming a relevant player on the ice... all in all quite encouraging.
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30 pts is what you're hoping for as a good rookie season. Anything above that and it's really promising considering how raw he is.
KevSkillz4
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Slafkovsky is not generationnal like McDavid and Matthews, but in same tier of Rick Nash and Andrei Svechnikov, that's realistic projection for his unique tools and high offensive talent.
That would be 20.5 games at 13min40sec per game., which is a realistic goal for him now that the initial adjustment period is under his feet.10 points in 24 games already.
Last year he had 10 points in 31 Liiga games.
This Ligue Nationale de hockey looks much easier
Alert: This is sarcasm.
What 'red flags' appear to you that are not being addressed by the Habs' coaching staff?
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He’s got no identifiable hockey IQ and is a bad playmaker. So far, anyway.
I can’t really tell if those aspects are being directly addressed or personally dealt with or if he’s just getting more used to the NHL game and will hit a wall soon. I hope to see more dangles and plays and (MSL’s fav word) reads from him as the season progresses.
Yeah, but at the end of October when you were writing that Slaf's offence was a huge red flag to you BECAUSE of his weak Liiga stats, and that perhaps it would have been best to return there to improve them, if you KNEW that in six weeks, he would be clearly outpacing his Liiga stats in the NHL, I think your level of negativity would have been a lot less.
Put it this way, he had 2 points in his first 8 games and you did some analysis and stated that this put him near the bottom of all first-ranked forwards drafted in decades.
But he now has 8 points in his last 16 games. THis is solid, especially since in these games he is averaging only 11.6 minutes or so. That's DOUBLE the points per game pace of his first 8 games and would have totally changed his rank in your report.
Given what happened to KK in 2018-19, the wall is a concern to some degree, sure, but his physical shape is much better than KK's, and so is his coachability. Most other top-ranked forwards drafted did not significantly drop in production in the second half of their rookie seasons, so I think a wall is a less likely outcome than continued progress.
Even with the 2 pts in 8 games to start the season, Slaf's p/60 season to date at 2.14 is better than Stutzle's entire good rookie season of 1.95 and closing in on Brady's very high ranking of 2.37.
In terms of trends, Slaf's p/60 for the last 16 games is actually 2.49. If he keeps that up (yes, big IF) you will soon be wondering if Slafkovsky isn't one of the more impressive young prospects of the past decades, not one of the worst.
Bad playmaker? He is an excellent passer, not sure what games you are watching. That pass to Anderson that tied the Calgary game...he waited a brief second while Anderson found a slight area and Slaf made a perfect pass.
The kid is 18 years old.
He has areas to work on but playmaking isn't one of them.
I think your assessment is overly harsh. He is at 10 points already playing very little time with the top 4 forwards on the team. What I am seeing is that Slaf is creating more plays than 9 of the other 14 forwards on the team.
Its takes like these that just ooze blind resentment for us not taking wright. And why people cannot take your evaluations of players seriously. I believe Seatle has a forum where you can talk about your Golden boy all you want. But to sit here and put ours down at every turn is distasteful.
Slaf has a good motor.
Good Vision.
Good Strength.
Good Puck Control.
He tends too hold onto the puck too long
tries to do too much
think the game a step too slow
His weaknesses as I perceive them are all related to experience. I think he can and will fix those things in his game with TOI and proper coaching.
I think the Jagr comparisons are a bit off. I would probably put Slaf topping out as a 70-80 point power forward.
Good Vision.
Good Strength.
Good Puck Control.
He tends too hold onto the puck too long
tries to do too much
think the game a step too slow
His weaknesses as I perceive them are all related to experience. I think he can and will fix those things in his game with TOI and proper coaching.
I think the Jagr comparisons are a bit off. I would probably put Slaf topping out as a 70-80 point power forward.
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I really could not give less of a shit about Wright or any other non-Habs prospect. Keep your projections to yourself.
I was asked about Slaf and I answered.
That was a fine pass. I don’t understand all the praise for it, he’s a f***ing 1OA, top players are expected to know when and how to weigh a pass. I suggest you raise your standards (as much as I am lowering my expectations).
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We have a very bad forward corps, you must admit that.
I’ll update that table I shared before to include p/60 and TOI and send it again soon.
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Honestly it's a good thing we have a multiple time Art Ross winner as a coach. Slaf would fail horribly under Therrien.
I suggest you stop knitpicking everything about this kid's game. We get it...you don't like him.
He has made several good passes. Open your eyes
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5 pts in his last 7 games. 6 pts in his last his last 10.
Now on pace for 32 pts (13G, 19A) in 77 GP.
Now on pace for 32 pts (13G, 19A) in 77 GP.
I know the comment was addressed to someone else, but personally I think my own standards are fine. I compare Slaf to other first-drafted forwards and find that he is performing quite well at age 18.
Do you acknowledge that Slafkovsky is doing better than you feared 6 weeks ago?
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Of course! He’s adapted and makes better plays. Not nearly at the level I thought he should be but that’s a “me problem” not a Slaf problem.
The Slaf problem is that his future projection hasn’t changed, it could be as bad as Josh Anderson and as good as Hossa. We simply don’t have enough data to call it. I hope you can accept that.
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I thought he looked amazing last night at 5 on 5 am i crazy? He was dishing to his linemates in stride and transporting the puck through the neutral zone. Lotsa confidence, Evaded a huge check on the chip to himself resulting in the icing but boy was he galloping with force on that play. Man his skating is impressive when he gets going.
Or maybe im a homer but i thought he was one of our best players
Or maybe im a homer but i thought he was one of our best players
Way, way, way better playmaker than Josh Anderson, has triple the asists so far this season, his first.
Faster skater than Hossa.
I project him able to score at a Brady or Svechnikov level, but he is four years younger than them, so give it time.
This is pure BS.
You wonder why your takes are criticized most of the time?
This is as good example as is.
There is no point discussing this.
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