Absolutely! I'm not saying that the Habs will unlock what Chicago couldn't, but the opportunity for it to happen is there. We'll see how that pans out over the next few seasons and hope that it is successful.
Prospect Info: [2022 - 1st OA] Juraj Slafkovsky (LW) Part 2
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My tune hasn’t change but your responses to me are erratic. One day you call my posts useless and tell me to stop posting and the next you agree with me with enthusiasm.
I’m critical of the Dach acquisition+contract on the same grounds that I am critical of the Slafkovsky acquisition. I wasn’t critical of the MSL hire or extension, or the Petry-Matheson trade, or the firesale last year. So it’s not just me being a negative contrarian jerk… I simply don’t see More Possible Upside Than Downside when it comes to Dach and Slafkovsky.
I think both can be terrific players but they have question marks that, as of writing, are unlikely to make them ever justify the expense/commitment. That’s it. My personal feeling is that I went both to be smashing successes, 100pt players each. That’s what I want but we both know it’s unlikely to happen… so keeping things grounded in realism means we have to acknowledge that Dach is ALREADY complaining about wrist soreness and Slafkovsky didn’t look like a standout phenom in rookie camp. Both these things are ultimately irrelevant but we are processing it as it happens. Next week will be good fun, I hope Slaf and Dach kick ass
I wouldn't say erratic, but I can both call you out for the extensive negativity or earlier comments on Slafkovsky where he was being criticized without proper research. As well, I can agree with your comments that come across more level headed and well thought out.
I've always been an extremely adaptable person to any situation, and while I may not agree with everything, and have pointed that out directly to you, I can also be understanding and very rational when things are presented properly.
As of now, you and I seem to be on opposite sides of the spectrum, where I see more upside in both players, and you have tempered expectations. A kind of glass half full/half empty approach. However, from everything I can gather, we're both on the same side in terms of wanting both players to reach their fullest potential, and to be successful impact players for the team. We simply both have different views on if they will get there at this point.
I think something to consider in Chicago trading him was the time frame of their rebuild. Even if the Hawks brass still believed in Dach, he didn't seem to fit in the scorched earth rebuild strategy they just went for
Hawks just began their rebuild. They may 4/5 years ahead of them. They don't have a Suzuki, a Caufield or the Habs d prospect depth and quality already in their pipeline. Habs may want to make the playoffs in 2/3 years; Dach fits this timeline more than a 4/5 one.
The trade made sense for both the Habs and Hawks. What it will come down to is the quality assessment of Dach's and the 2022 13rh OA pick
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They could’ve held onto him until he had more value and sold him for more. Because like it or not they have to ice a team no matter what.
They didn’t figure he was capable of gaining more value. Important to think about whenever you’re convinced that the Habs “won” a trade.
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That is not how it works. They had a deal and what they thought was fair value at the time. Dach is also one bad season away from not being worth much. Obviously habs are betting that it's the opposite that will happen.
A similar argument was made when we traded Toffoli. We should have waited one more years or two because of his contract and maybe we could have gotten more, look where we are now and the season is not even started. Hockey is an industry in which assets are very volatile and you have to be opportunistic.
WeThreeKings
Demidov is a HAB
Slafkovsky is a bust. Was invisible this morning.
Or they just liked the value the Montreal Canadiens gave them.
Everyone has a price man.
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Toffoli is an aging and declining asset. Dach is an ascendant asset — or was meant to be.
It’s fine to disagree on his likelihood of growth and success but you cannot deny that Chicago cut a very young recent 3OA loose for a 13 OA.
Mrb1p
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Pro athlete or not (Well actually hes not even pro yet). He still follows the same rules as we all do. Pretty sure my muscle mass is much greater than his but what do I know, maybe an 18 years old boy that shares the same weight as me while being four inches taller and similar body fat levels is a very different beast.
(Hint: don't project your averageness on others)
Mrb1p
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Pretty fast for the most inefficient stride Ive ever seen. Love the physical tools but he has to be the most uncooked top 3 prospect in recent memory (Except KK, lol.)
Toffoli is aging, but he's not declining.. he fits the needs of Calgary at this moment, and fits the mold of the team. Same with Dach, Chicago liked what they saw in the 13 range, and with the structure of the team (like DeBrincat) did not want to pay more for the next handful of years while the team is not in a competitive state. They save money now by getting Nazar at a 3yr ELC, and it probably won't count this season, so the 4yrs they would have paid Dach to be at the bottom, they save that 3m and develop Nazar. So your assessment of them as assets are wrong.
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Mrb1p
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RHP is such a heads-up player. The give and go to open space to score was *Chefs kiss*.
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This forum badly needs a "clown" emoji
Insane player. Can't wait to see him at 22
Insane player. Can't wait to see him at 22
WeThreeKings
Demidov is a HAB
No need to order supper boys, a lot of people eating their own words.
Since two rookie camp games was enough to give him bust status.. surely an intra-squad scrimmage is enough to give him legendary status.
Since two rookie camp games was enough to give him bust status.. surely an intra-squad scrimmage is enough to give him legendary status.
Man, Slaf is going to make so many players take penalties when they try to take the puck from him. Also if it takes two players to get the puck away from him that means one of his teammates is wide open.
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Man, Slaf is going to make so many players take penalties when they try to take the puck from him. Also if it takes two players to get the puck away from him that means one of his teammates is wide open.
Caufield:
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Don't expect much praise when he plays well. This is the new Carey Price/KK thread. Expect 10-20 new pages after every bad game however.
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As well as ''COME GET YOUR CROW WHILE IT'S HOT'' whenever Slaf does like...a deke or something, in an unstable runaway chain of action and reaction. This is the way.
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