Blue Jays GDT: 2021 v10 | Next: Mon, Sept 6| @ NYY | 1:00pm ET/10:00am PT | Ryu vs Taillon

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I think the trio of Jays announcers is easily best in the league and its not really close from my view.

But I can see the annoyances with buck, he's just gotta tone it down a notch and it'd be much better.
 
Buck Martinez: "Why don't other pitchers just be like Greg Maddux?"

That quote was so ridiculous it almost sounded like a parody of something Buck would say. Except it wasn't.

Imagine thinking that pitchers could just choose to have elite control and movement but decide not to.

Also the old soft-tossing Maddux of the last decade of his career was a pretty average journeyman. Young dominant Maddux had above-average velocity for his time.
 
I think the trio of Jays announcers is easily best in the league and its not really close from my view.

But I can see the annoyances with buck, he's just gotta tone it down a notch and it'd be much better.

Shulman is fantastic and easily top tier.

Buck is a) miscast as a play-by-play guy where he has to both focus on describing on field action and carry most of the talking and b) wearing down and becoming more prone to annoying tangents, mistakes, and disconnects. I have find memories of him and Dan on TSN in the 90s but this isn't his game anymore and the role he's in isn't what he was made for

Tabler is just.... blah. Trite, empty cliches and boring platitudes with precious little insight. It's telling that the guy who's the only one on the broadcast to exclusively be there for color commentary ends up almost always being usurped by Buck in terms of doing the color bits during most games. I don't really know what Tabler brings to the table that's unique or interesting.

If I had my way the Jays' broadcast team should be Dan and Joe Siddall.
 
That quote was so ridiculous it almost sounded like a parody of something Buck would say. Except it wasn't.

Imagine thinking that pitchers could just choose to have elite control and movement but decide not to.

Also the old soft-tossing Maddux of the last decade of his career was a pretty average journeyman. Young dominant Maddux had above-average velocity for his time.

Yep. And Maddux relied and won on the back of pinpoint control and effective pitch deployment in part because he didn't have big velocity. If he could rear back and throw it 95 with regularity you can be damn sure he would've.
 
Tonight on Fox: "Spank it and get spanked: The Reese McGuire story."

Starring Channing Tatum as Reese McGuire, Jimmy Smits as Charlie Montoyo, and Joe Mantegna as Buck Martinez.
 
For a brief second I thought Semien was suffering PTSD flashbacks from yesterdays throw and just completely froze when he went to throw the ball :laugh:
 
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That's kind of dumb. It's not like Reese was reaching extra far out and intentionally impeding the hitter. He was catching like normal and the bat's swing path intersected with his glove.

Seems like the kind of thing that should just be a dead ball akin to a foul.
 
I think the trio of Jays announcers is easily best in the league and its not really close from my view.

But I can see the annoyances with buck, he's just gotta tone it down a notch and it'd be much better.

Schulman is one of the best in baseball. Elite PBP guy.

Martinez and Tabler are guys who have a terrific understanding of what baseball was and how it was perceived in 1990. And unfortunately they don't want to adjust to new realities and each year that passes they turn more and more into out-of-date relics rambling on about how RBIs and wins are the best means to evaluate players and how pitchers could just decide to be Greg Maddux and hitters should just hit against the shift because that was easy to do 40 years ago when pitchers were throwing batting-practice fastballs.

They do some things very well - they're excellent at talking about pitching strategy and game-calling from behind the plate - and if they could adjust and understand that some new ways of understanding the game might be better, it would be fine. But the opposite is happening and they're going the other way and becoming crotchety old men (Buck is 72) who spend half the game ranting about how things were better back in their day.

Both Buck and Pat are better when they're working with the more level-headed and progressive Schulman, which seems to mute their worst tendencies. But when they're together the reverse happens and they encourage each other in their old-school thinking.
 
One run and LaRussa flips out sigh. Can’t stand him. Drunk.

And he didn't say anything to Lynn and instead went after the rookie catcher.

La Russa is an ass but I'm not going to lie - I'd love to have a manager with that sort of intensity and those sorts of high standards instead of a goofy cheerleader clown playing bongo drums.

That was a dumb pitch call by a young catcher to groove a 3-0 fastball to Guerrero with a base open and he probably won't make that mistake again.
 
La Russa is an ass but I'm not going to lie - I'd love to have a manager with that sort of intensity and those sorts of high standards instead of a goofy cheerleader clown playing bongo drums.

That was a dumb pitch call by a young catcher to groove a 3-0 fastball to Guerrero with a base open and he probably won't make that mistake again.
Exactly This. larussa, while probably a bit dramatic in his approach, gets his point across to a young player who made a correctable mistake. I get the impression we don’t have that at all with Montoyo
 
La Russa is an ass but I'm not going to lie - I'd love to have a manager with that sort of intensity and those sorts of high standards instead of a goofy cheerleader clown playing bongo drums.

That was a dumb pitch call by a young catcher to groove a 3-0 fastball to Guerrero with a base open and he probably won't make that mistake again.

Why not call out Lynn as well? He’s the veteran he can call off the pitch.
 
Exactly This. larussa, while probably a bit dramatic in his approach, gets his point across to a young player who made a correctable mistake. I get the impression we don’t have that at all with Montoyo

We obviously don't know what's happening behind the scenes but I don't get that impression either.

And Montoyo's on-field demeanor has all the intensity of a wet noodle. You don't get the sense that he's demanding on-field excellence on a nightly basis.
 
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Why was Tony chewing out only the catcher? Lynn is the veteran pitcher here, he also has a brain of his own. He can also control what the throws. But man, if Larussa was chewing me out like that I'd be scared shitless.
 
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