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Wouldn’t be shocked if Ottawa grabbed him back, or Detroit.

I would be a little surprised by Ottawa. They traded him because he wanted out. I doubt he'd be too happy if they reclaimed him. "Thanks, you traded me to one of the deepest teams in the league who had no spot for me so you could reclaim me later.

I can’t see anything else Perunovich could have done to make the roster. I guess they didn’t want to risk Walman or Mikkola to waivers. I think Perunovich is already better than either of those guys but it’s how the puck bounces.

I think it has as much to do with roster composition as risk of waivers. Perunovich is a lefty but he is more comfortable on the right side. We have Faulk, Parayko and Bortuzzo on the right. Bortuzzo is replaceable 5v5 but is important to the PK. If we have Perunovich over Bortz, then one of Krug, Perunovich or Walman/Mikkola would have to PK. None of them are there yet.

Also having Krug and Perunovich on the roster gives us 2 tiny D who need to be sheltered. It makes us better offensively, but worse defensively. Berube/Armstrong may not have thought they could shelter both adequately. Say what you want about Walman and Mikkola, and their gaffes. Either is much better defensively than Perunovich at this point. That may change as Perunovich seasons. Half a year getting steady coaching in the AHL, and Perunovich may be a full time before the playoffs.
 

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Be interested to see if anyone claims Brown. Doubtful


Seeing the Sharks picked up Gadjovich, and there were reportedly more teams that put in a claim om him, I'd be very surprised if some of those teams don't put in a claim for Brown: The Canucks are reportedly looking for a center on waivers while Arizona could make a decent fit aswell.
 

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I can’t see anything else Perunovich could have done to make the roster. I guess they didn’t want to risk Walman or Mikkola to waivers. I think Perunovich is already better than either of those guys but it’s how the puck bounces.
In my limited viewing he struggled on the defensive side a bit. If he’s on the Blues, he’s less useful if it’s as a 3rd pairing guy. I think he just needs lots of minuted against men (in the AHL) to maximize his preparation. But he’ll be called up this year, amd when he is it will probably be for a top 4 role.
 

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Seeing the Sharks picked up Gadjovich, and there were reportedly more teams that put in a claim om him, I'd be very surprised if some of those teams don't put in a claim for Brown: The Canucks are reportedly looking for a center on waivers while Arizona could make a decent fit aswell.
Who knows. Honestly, NHL waivers are the most random thing in the world. I’ve seen guys get put on there that I thought surely would be claimed, and they weren’t. And then I’ve seen teams claim dudes I’ve never heard of. It’s wild.
 
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The risk with Brown will be that if multiple teams put in a claim for him, then the winning team (with the worst record last year compared to the other claimers) has to keep him on their roster or offer Brown to the next team that claimed him at the same time. Works for trades too. Can't trade him without offering him to all the other claimers who had better records than your team did last season.

That is true if I'm understanding the Waiver rules properly for the NHL. Therefore, if you put a claim on him, you probably should have every intention of keeping him on your roster else you end up passing this poor kid around like a cigarette behind gym class back in the day.
 
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Wouldn’t be shocked if Ottawa grabbed him back, or Detroit.

Ottawa wouldn't do it, unless they wanted to further bury his career like they did Chouinard back in the day, I'd actually love to see it though out of spite and to get a rise out of his dad.
 

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The risk with Brown will be that if multiple teams put in a claim for him, then the winning team (with the worst record last year compared to the other claimers) has to keep him on their roster or offer Brown to the next team that claimed him at the same time. Works for trades too. Can't trade him without offering him to all the other claimers who had better records than your team did last season.

That is true if I'm understanding the Waiver rules properly for the NHL. Therefore, if you put a claim on him, you probably should have every intention of keeping him on your roster else you end up passing this poor kid around like a cigarette behind gym class back in the day.
A cigarette? You must’ve gone to a catholic school.
 

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The risk with Brown will be that if multiple teams put in a claim for him, then the winning team (with the worst record last year compared to the other claimers) has to keep him on their roster or offer Brown to the next team that claimed him at the same time. Works for trades too. Can't trade him without offering him to all the other claimers who had better records than your team did last season.

That is true if I'm understanding the Waiver rules properly for the NHL. Therefore, if you put a claim on him, you probably should have every intention of keeping him on your roster else you end up passing this poor kid around like a cigarette behind gym class back in the day.
I don’t think this is right..
 

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Can You Trade a Player Claimed off Waivers?

Players who are claimed off waivers must be offered to the other teams that placed an original claim before that player can be traded.
For example, if a player is placed on waivers and three teams place a claim on him. The team lowest in the standards gets first dibs. If they then decide to trade the player, he would first have to be passed on by the other two teams. If a team places a claim, he’d be theirs. If not, he can be traded.

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Can You Trade a Player Claimed off Waivers?

Players who are claimed off waivers must be offered to the other teams that placed an original claim before that player can be traded.
For example, if a player is placed on waivers and three teams place a claim on him. The team lowest in the standards gets first dibs. If they then decide to trade the player, he would first have to be passed on by the other two teams. If a team places a claim, he’d be theirs. If not, he can be traded.

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Is this official? Where is this from?
 

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With the reported greater emphasis on cross-checking this season, I wonder if that will play into our decision on Bortozzo. Does he still play a majority of the games? Does he fall back to #7? Could he be at risk of getting cut? I'm starting to think that Walman will be the one that heads out since there's nothing really that he excels at, but Bort could have a rough year if they are serious about cracking down on cross-checks.
I'd suggest you take another look at Walman's game ! he really opened my eyes at the end of last season. The progress of his development was very much up and down before last year, but he is here to stay.Let him play and turn him loose !
 

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Eh. They should keep the best lineup. Perunovich has impressed enough and Mikkola and Walman have definitely had their chance to show what they can do. I trust the coaching staff, but they won't make decisions based on where people can play. They waived Walman last year, they'll waive him and/or Mikkola again if they don't make a good enough impression. I don't think Perunovich's waiver immunity will make their decision. If you really think "he won't be there for long," what's the difference?
 

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Mikkola, and to greater extent Jake Walman, are hugely improved since last year's training camp. I think Walman , with his speed, his shot and his budding aggressive play , is , at minimum, a top 4 defenseman in the very near future
 

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Mikkola, and to greater extent Jake Walman, are hugely improved since last year's training camp. I think Walman , with his speed, his shot and his budding aggressive play , is , at minimum, a top 4 defenseman in the very near future

Ow, hi Jake! Welcome to the boards. ;)
 
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