2021 Roster Thread XIX - Who's In Net

[Beef Invictus]

Colorado is on a different plane of existence when it comes to possession hockey. They also have Makar, Girard, Toews already. So, it's absolutely plausible that they specifically identify areas in Jones' game that can be maximized in their systems, with those partners. I don't think anyone is taking the stance that Jones can't provide some value. Especially with MacKinnon's 2 years left on his contract, that team is full steam ahead win now. They were specifically identified as the one team that doesn't care about an extension -- they just want Jones' cheap contract for next season. Way different gamble in a way different environment.

As for Hakstol, I'll call bull. Nothing he has done at any place can be spun as "pro-analytics." Not in process, not in result. Even in Toronto, his PK was their single worst area. We don't need to treat organizations as monolithic entities. A team can be invested in statistics and their coach can want a particular assistant. And evaluating players and coaches is quite the difference.

Seattle might be heavy into stats, but Ron Francis doesn't strike me as a brilliant GM -- he's quite boring actually. If anything, as Carolina has thrived without him, he might just be riding their philosophical coattails. This is hockey we're dealing with -- with plenty of HockeyGuy™ even running the better teams -- and even the most savvy teams still do questionable things. No one is smarter than Carolina, and you have them trading a 1st for Skjei long-term.

I would love some analytics on how often teams with these departments make moves directly contrary to what their stats guys are advising. We know The Flutch did it with Stewart.

 

[deadhead]

Reality check: the underlying problem is it's Philadelphia, I mean if you have to pay higher taxes, NYC is a lot more attractive to multi-millionaires, so is Boston and DC and Chicago. And taxes are far lower in Dallas and TB and Miami and Phoenix and Charlotte. So we're screwed.

Now we're not Columbus or St Louis, we are a big city close to even bigger, more attractive cities yet you can get a nice semi-rural spread in South Jersey or Delaware within an easy drive of the facilities. So it's not hopeless, but the biggest names will have better options. Which is why we're better off growing our own and looking for second tier bargains than overpaying for "names."

I mean can you blame Panarin? If you were getting $50M after taxes and agent fees, would you choose NYC or Philadelphia?

 

[deadhead]

I would love some analytics on how often teams with these departments make moves directly contrary to what their stats guys are advising. We know The Flutch did it with Stewart.

Your Stewart obsession makes me thing you have some psycho-sexual hangup when it comes to biceps.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

 

[Chinatown88]

 

[Magua]

 

[Beef Invictus]

Your Stewart obsession makes me thing you have some psycho-sexual hangup when it comes to biceps.

It's been a real tone-setter for the ongoing futility of the Fletcher era. A convenient way for the GM to announce what he is all about.

 

[Chinatown88]

 

[Magua]

Snoopy lookin' T H I C C. Can he play RD?

 

[StarterHart]

Snoopy lookin' T H I C C. Can he play RD?

He's left handed. Isn't that illegal?

 

[FlyerNutter]

you guys should all stop being fans

What makes you assume we are men

 

[Starat327]

What makes you assume we are men

Jokes on you, the women are allowed to be fans still.

 

[Magua]

He's left handed. Isn't that illegal?

We'll trade Sanheim. Snoopy is defense first.

 

[flyersnorth]

Any interest in Krug or Dunn? Sounds like the Blues are underwhelmed by Krug after giving him a pretty big contract.

 

[x DeCruze]

Any interest in Krug or Dunn? Sounds like the Blues are underwhelmed by Krug after giving him a pretty big contract.

Krug, no. Dunn, yes.

 

[Prongo]

With Tampa almost surely sweeping or taking this series in 5, I’m waiting for those hit pieces to start dropping by the insiders. Give me dem rumors

 

[Curufinwe]

Any interest in Krug or Dunn? Sounds like the Blues are underwhelmed by Krug after giving him a pretty big contract.

Geez, already. He’s only played one season of seven.

 

[WolfOfBroadStreet14]

With Tampa almost surely sweeping or taking this series in 5, I’m waiting for those hit pieces to start dropping by the insiders. Give me dem rumors

Hoping for a sweep at this point so we get it sooner

 

[Starat327]

With Tampa almost surely sweeping or taking this series in 5, I’m waiting for those hit pieces to start dropping by the insiders. Give me dem rumors

Hoping for a sweep at this point so we get it sooner

Why are you both in such a rush to be disappointed as soon as possible and to have to deal with it all summer?

 

[Striiker]

Why are you both in such a rush to be disappointed as soon as possible and to have to deal with it all summer?

Bias for action

 

[GapToothedWonder]

you guys should all stop being fans

Is that an options?I assume a psychiatrist would be involved and I don't have the money for the amount of sessions I would need to unpack this illness.

 

[Starat327]

Is that an options?I assume a psychiatrist would be involved and I don't have the money for the amount of sessions I would need to unpack this illness.

Give it another season of this year's version of AV hockey and I think you'll find the disassociation very easy.

 

[Curufinwe]

Prepare for disappointment say the guys who smugly insisted we should be disappointed two summers ago when NJ got Subban and Philly got Niskanen and Braun.

Miscellaneous NHL Talk XXVI 2018-19 Offseason: The Draftening

 

[Striiker]

I’ve never seen someone so attached to a single GM move.

 

[Prongo]

Why are you both in such a rush to be disappointed as soon as possible and to have to deal with it all summer?

Because I will evaluate the move then be done with it. I just love trade rumors and trades in general in all sports, so it’s a fun time.

Afterwards, I’ll go back to my normal summer and be smashed half the nights while floating in my pool.