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2021 Florida Panthers off-season thread. Free Agent Frenzy July 28th

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Panteras said:
I’m guessing the reason we protected Bob is because it’s required to protect a goalie and Knight/Montenbault don’t count towards roster protection?
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Little Bobby Boo said:
Bob has a full NMC and had to be protected, according to the rules. He could have been asked to waive it, just for the draft, but wasn't asked/didn't waive.
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No point in asking him to waive because there wasn’t another goalie worth protecting. If, for example, we had plans to keep Driedger or if he was signed already, that would have been the only scenario where Bob waiving would have made any sense. Sort of like the Habs situation with Price and Allen.
 
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zeroG said:
you missed his lovely finish in game 5, i guess?? his movement on that play was spot-on.



skip to 5:30.

although he shows decent hands at times, i don't think any of us expect him to be a playmaker. i do think he can be more than a mule, though.

protecting him perhaps is a way of sending a message to both marchment and the team - "this is the type of determination we expect."
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Oh I remember this goal very well. I like the guy as a physical force with some hands who can move up and down the lineup.

Point is that he is no competition for Duke on the first line when Duke is healthy. If we do a highlight comparison, Duke is out of March's league. Nevertheless, the guy really is a role model and fierce competitor. I understand that we protect him and Horny, to keep the hardworking culture.
 
I've been saying over and over and over again that I want to see an energy line of Lomberg / Acciari / Marchment. Ideally they're given absolutely no expectation of scoring but of getting pucks deep, crashing the net, exhausting the opponent's top pairing, and making opposing wingers think twice about going into the corners with them.

The idea that big bodies or energy guys have to be on the same line as scorers to "create room" for them, as if creating room is some sort of acute zero-sum proposition, has always struck me as odd. There's 60 minutes to be played, and if your energy line can wear down your opponent and tire them out just enough so your top line has a fraction of a second's step on them on the next shift I'd call that a job very well done.
 
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austropanther said:
Oh I remember this goal very well. I like the guy as a physical force with some hands who can move up and down the lineup.

Point is that he is no competition for Duke on the first line when Duke is healthy. If we do a highlight comparison, Duke is out of March's league. Nevertheless, the guy really is a role model and fierce competitor. I understand that we protect him and Horny, to keep the hardworking culture.
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ppl get fixated with certain players which results in overlooking the fact that neither of those players are top6ers and it's asinine to argue which 3rd/4th liner in the roster is most compatible on the 1st line. Duke's highlight reel didn't save him from 4th line minutes in the playoffs so who cares about it. Both Duke and Mush are band-aid solutions as top6ers at this point. Maybe they'll get better but at the age of 25-26 there's not a lot of runway to improve.
 
What do you guys think about the idea of Montreal making Price just available so that Kraken pick him. Only to trade him back to Montreal with salary retained?

If they actually pull this off I bow to Bergevin
 
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Mogo said:
What do you guys think about the idea of Montreal making Price just available so that Kraken pick him. Only to trade him back to Montreal with salary retained?

If they actually pull this off I bow to Bergevin
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Isn't there a rule against that
 
Jean Luc Discard said:
ppl get fixated with certain players which results in overlooking the fact that neither of those players are top6ers and it's asinine to argue which 3rd/4th liner in the roster is most compatible on the 1st line. Duke's highlight reel didn't save him from 4th line minutes in the playoffs so who cares about it. Both Duke and Mush are band-aid solutions as top6ers at this point. Maybe they'll get better but at the age of 25-26 there's not a lot of runway to improve.
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Yep, the two are all we have for the moment. Denisenko and Heponiemi should fight them for the 1st line spot.

Your criticism of Duke is a bit harsh IMO. The guy played a great season until he got hurt. At the point of his return, March was there. If Duke is our stopgap for a real talent from within our system or from outside, I'd be ok with it.
 
Mogo said:
What do you guys think about the idea of Montreal making Price just available so that Kraken pick him. Only to trade him back to Montreal with salary retained?

If they actually pull this off I bow to Bergevin
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Depends on how much retention. Think they can only retain on 2 players at a time so do you want to lock in one of those spots for next 5 years? Better be worth if it's anything more than $2mil.

Price is owed a ton of signing bonus money, $11 mil in September and around $36 mil of the 44 mil left owing is bonuses.

gizmo12688 said:
Isn't there a rule against that
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Pretty sure as long as it isn't the exact same trade, you can do it?
So there'd be retention but MON likely adds a 1st + prospect for the retention and an AHLer is thrown in to make it a different trade
 
Knighty Knight said:
Did you notice the multiple times he dangled around players this year?
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I noticed he puts forth good effort, uses his size well, finishes his checks, and is not a liability in his two-way game. But no, I did not notice anything close to what would pass as a 'dangle' at the NHL level, much less something that would compare to what Huberdeau's been doing for the past ten years.

Can he hang on to the puck without making a mistake and turning it over? Sure, great. Are his hands anywhere close to impressive at the NHL level? Absolutely not.
 
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austropanther said:
Forgot the irony emoji? You are right, 2 times counts as multiple. But it was just 2 times, and it was not like he was tying knots into the opposing players legs. I saw far more dangly plays by Tippett
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Clint said:
I noticed he puts forth good effort, uses his size well, finishes his checks, and is not a liability in his two-way game. But no, I did not notice anything close to what would pass as a 'dangle' at the NHL level, much less something that would compare to what Huberdeau's been doing for the past ten years.

Can he hang on to the puck without making a mistake and turning it over? Sure, great. Are his hands anywhere close to impressive at the NHL level? Absolutely not.
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All you guys have to say is no and disagree with me. Now I have to find video proof of what I saw. I'll get back to you later this summer with actual video evidence.
 
Dutch Panther said:
Pittsburgh protected Matheson!!!:sarcasm:
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I noticed that too and was going to say something…

Also, everyone noticed that Price wasn’t protected by Habs, but neither was Weber. And Capitals didn’t protect Ovechkin. I guess the latter two are UFAs to be so Kraken won’t pick them.
 
KW said:
I noticed that too and was going to say something…

Also, everyone noticed that Price wasn’t protected by Habs, but neither was Weber. And Capitals didn’t protect Ovechkin. I guess the latter two are UFAs to be so Kraken won’t pick them.
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No point protecting Weber when he's going to be out next season and possibly beyond
 
Knighty Knight said:
All you guys have to say is no and disagree with me. Now I have to find video proof of what I saw. I'll get back to you later this summer with actual video evidence.
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Would this board not be a bit boring if we just answered with yes or no...? Hope we did not ruin your summer. March is not that good/worth it :sarcasm:

Good luck on the hunt - I remember some "nice" plays by him, but not on a "cheeky" level
 
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Knighty Knight said:
All you guys have to say is no and disagree with me. Now I have to find video proof of what I saw. I'll get back to you later this summer with actual video evidence.
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That's literally how argument, debate, and exchange of ideas work. Someone makes a claim and presumably backs it up with evidence. The next person is free to disagree and provide their reasoning.

I look forward to seeing your video evidence. I would love nothing more than to be proven wrong and it turns out Marchment is a diamond in the rough with immense untapped offensive skill.
 
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Jean Luc Discard said:
ppl get fixated with certain players which results in overlooking the fact that neither of those players are top6ers and it's asinine to argue which 3rd/4th liner in the roster is most compatible on the 1st line. Duke's highlight reel didn't save him from 4th line minutes in the playoffs so who cares about it. Both Duke and Mush are band-aid solutions as top6ers at this point. Maybe they'll get better but at the age of 25-26 there's not a lot of runway to improve.
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If I remember correctly Duke suffered an injury after getting hit into the boards in Game 1. The hit was similar to the Bennett hit that got him suspended.

That's why he wasn't on the 1st or 2nd line.
 
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