That roster actually doesn’t look THAT bad. Not great but far from atrocious. Also I know Dubas is a garbage GM but do we really think he lets McCann just walk after acquiring him? There has to be a deal on the table to not take him.
2021 Florida Panthers off-season thread. Free Agent Frenzy July 28th
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There will be additional trades in order to fit under the cap but Seattle's picks should be about value/$$$. Therefore, picking guys like Shattenkirk doesn't make sense if Francis can pick a guy like Cholowski, Lauzon o Kulak.
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You can have too many dmen hence e.g. Forsling dropping onto our lap instead of getting now protected by Hawks/Canes.
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I'm speaking to extremes for the sake of making my point. I know no one is saying that Marchment is going to be an offensive star. If you read back and reference what I'm saying you'll see that I actually like what Marchment brings to the ice, and I acknowledge he's not some stone-handed goon.
I'm saying he has a passable skillset to be a contributing member of our team, but simultaneously shouldn't be put in a role where generating offense is his primary concern. Putting him on the top line with Barkov, which happened quite a few times last year, robs other guys of ice time who would otherwise be generating and/or finishing offensive opportunities that Marchment isn't able to.
In any case Knighty Knight said earlier that Marchment's hands reminded him of a young Huberdeau. That is NOT even close to being true, and I wanted to make that clear.
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Yes but what are their nicknames
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Pffft what a slap in the face.
$5M for Landeskog? I'd tell them to eat shit if I were him.
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Sakic might consider that this is his big chance to move the captaincy to Mackinnon without him taking responsibility for it and explain that "Landeskog wasn't commited to this org, he wanted to play somewhere else with a bigger role, bigger paycheck, etc etc." Ofc this will cost Sakic a good player in the process.
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ha! he has soft hands for a big guy but that's a bit of a stretch. i missed that. so i guess one good turn deserves another...
with regard to lines, he doesn't have to generate anything when playing with barkov. and when you add another player who's dangerous as well, those two could probably score with a pylon for a line-mate. (another stretch there...)
Q put him with barkov for a reason. he's not an idiot. it might simply be that he felt marchment wouldn't drag the line down and that allowed him to move a winger to another line and give the team more balance. and maybe that's a non-factor next season because we get another body up front. in any case, that line produced and the team did Ok so i don't get why everyone is so insistent that it never happen again.
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I agree, and the irony is of course that if he had been on the receiving end of that message as a player, he would have reacted the way Landeskog undoubtedly will.
That might work for outside of the locker room, but the players know what’s going on. And it wouldn’t be a good look for Sakic for his players, and future UFAs.
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Nobody scores 20 goals as a passenger.
Vatrano is an energy guy. He has a good shot but he also hustles and has the kind of style of play that can turn games around. Sure, he can be invisible at times, but so can most players. I think you're selling him really short with that post.
He creates space and plays a gritty game down low that this team still lacks a lot of. We got beat up by Tampa in the corners and guys like Vatrano help that. You want to get softer for the playoffs? Makes no sense.
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My eye test without advanced stats or x-ray vision says that Marchment’s biggest deficiency is the lack of quickness in his skating. Someone else said something to this effect already. He’s just not light and nimble on his feet. Yes, I know he’s a big guy, but this is one aspect Barky has improved a lot on over the years. Barky’s improved skating is what slowed him to fake and deke behind the net in the game 5 highlights you linked, and then make a saucer pass to Marchment.
Even though March to a nice shot there that’s another area of improvement for him, quicker release of the shot. He shoots right now more like Fat Maroon than like Vatrano. Hope he’s training right now as I type this.
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Agreed, he was one of our better players in the playoffs too.
The move is to trade the 1st rounder. It's a weak draft, package that with another prospect if you're looking to boost the roster.
Maybe work out a deal with Seattle for them to take the player you want and send them a pick for it.
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Considering how the Cats' players had Yandle's back when Zito initially tried to trade/scratch him, the players will always find something to complain about. Futures UFAs will always flock to a team which is capable of winning big so in that regard Sakic shouldn't care much if letting go of Landeskog allows them to improve their team some other way with the freed up cap space.
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He scored only couple of point but he was the 3rd best Cats player in net (drawn-taken) penalties/60 after Forsling and Acciari. Plus, getting 20-25 goals per season with $2.5mil price tag is hard to beat.
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You realize Vatrano was playing in the playoffs, right? The ones we just got roughed up in. He was there. Every game. He created almost nothing. He doesn't play an overly physical game. He isn't a good defensive player. He shoots the puck right at the goalie most of the time. His passes aren't crips. Vatrano was a complete ghost in the playoffs. Shedding players like Vatrano is exactly what we should be doing in a flat cap world.
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I mean, he didn't contribute "nothing"....
Also, a lot of guys disappeared in the playoffs. Our entire bottom-6 was completely outmatched. Vatrano didn't look "invisible". He's a bottom 6 guy, I never said he wasn't. But he's a bottom 6 player that can score 20 goals and draws penalties. He has value and you acting like he's Michael Haley or Colton Sceviour while Mason Marchment scored 2 goals all year playing a ton with Barkov makes absolutely no sense to me.
They're both bottom 6 guys, I understand not keeping Frank for financial reasons but to act like Marchment has done so much more to prove himself at this level than Vatrano is just completely asinine.
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I love the expansion draft, gives us so much to talk about.
Crazy idea and would never happen, but it would be fun if we had a similar process every year or maybe do it every 3-5 years so teams can't just tank for it. Sort of like the waiver wire, but on steroids.
Crazy idea and would never happen, but it would be fun if we had a similar process every year or maybe do it every 3-5 years so teams can't just tank for it. Sort of like the waiver wire, but on steroids.
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Yah, fun for us but the NHLPA would never agree too it. Players want some stability, a lot of them have families. Moving kids around isn't easy.
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I'm not here to say MM is better than Vatrano. I complained about MM for weeks.
I think the team is better off without Vaterano taking up a spot and $3M in cap. Happy to see Zito agrees.
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Franky is pretty much lock for 15-20 goals on the third line. This is great for a bottom-6 player. If he did not dissappear occasionally, he'd be a superstar with 30-40 goals. But he is not a superstar, he is great at the spot where he was used at. I would never want to count on a player like him to turn a game around - yet he scored several decisive goals last year. We should be glad to have him and try keeping him as long as possible.
It would be interesting to see though how he would fare on the 1st line with Verhaege and Barky - since Marchment got his shot... He is not a great sniper but better than March. His speed and tenacity could maybe have worked with the two. I did not see that much more by March to make him clearly deserve this more than Frank.
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