Yeah same here. I can't wrap my head around it either. In fact I can't wrap my head around the moves the Blues made in the last 2 years.
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Yeah same here. I can't wrap my head around it either. In fact I can't wrap my head around the moves the Blues made in the last 2 years.
It’s not nothing. If he is taken then we basically got $7.5mm in cap space and Dunn or Barbie for him. Which is presumably better than trade market fir him was. Hard to conceive we were offered high pick or top prospect for him without taking back bad money or retaining.
It's pretty clear Tarasenko wants out. Even he would go to Seattle rather stay in Blues.
How badly Blues handled his situation and ruined his career I dont see anything big here. Vlad just want new home, either is other NHL team or ED team Seattle.
We are building right market in Blues.
Funny to read Krug was unhappy in Blues too. Maybe he wants out too. Pietro out
Tarasenko out
Schwartz out?
Hoffman out?
Bozak stays.
Krug?
Parayko out?
ROR out?
Right path for re-build.
I’ll be sad to see Tarasenko go, but I think there are opportunities to use his salary cap space constructively to make this team better. I hoped he’d return to form and be worth his salary, but still skeptical it will happen.
I’m more worried about the scenario where Tarasenko ISNT drafted. He doesn’t sound like a guy who is ready to say, “oh well” and show up ready for camp. Does the trade market loosen up a bit between the expansion and prospect draft? Because I just don’t see an acceptable market for him if there wasn’t already. And his cap tied up will handcuff Armstrong’s off-season moves.
I’m more worried about the scenario where Tarasenko ISNT drafted. He doesn’t sound like a guy who is ready to say, “oh well” and show up ready for camp. Does the trade market loosen up a bit between the expansion and prospect draft? Because I just don’t see an acceptable market for him if there wasn’t already. And his cap tied up will handcuff Armstrong’s off-season moves.
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Maybe teams will be more willing to deal for him after the expansion draft? Maybe Armstrong considers additional offers he wouldn't have after the expansion draft because of protection slots?
Fascinating week ahead for this team next year and into the future.
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Prediction.
Sea takes Tarasenko, then flips him for another 5mil+ player and a 2nd or 3rd rounder.
Im predicting a East Coast team between Philly, Wash, or NYI.
Sea takes Tarasenko, then flips him for another 5mil+ player and a 2nd or 3rd rounder.
Im predicting a East Coast team between Philly, Wash, or NYI.
There's a guy on Twitter and say what you want I think this guy is pretty connected and has sources.
He is saying for the last few days that Flyers are in and looking at a Tarasenko and Voracek swap.
He is saying for the last few days that Flyers are in and looking at a Tarasenko and Voracek swap.
Are they making that deal with Seattle? I don't follow.
"guy on Twitter" made me laugh.
Blues likely could have made deal like that but we obviously didn’t want to take back $ ahead of free agency.
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I think you could find a better market for either Tarasenko or Dunn, whichever is left over after Wednesday. I suspect that this is why Army was reluctant to move either unless he got his price.
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They might need his salary to help meet the minimum cap amount, I think $81 million, they have to get to. They could either flip him for picks or a prospect of some sort, or just keep him the remaining years on his contract.
All signs point to them valuing cap space, so I think they will build different than Vegas and picking and signing Dunn will still be more valuable to them to get a young, cost controlled defenseman.
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81.5 is the max. The floor is 60 and they won't have a problem getting there.
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There is a expansion draft simulator on CapFriendly. Went through and drafted a team based on who I thought were the likely picks and my cap number was 90+M. I don't think there is going to be any issue about Seattle hitting the cap floor.
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There aren’t as many quality players available as what Vegas was able to snag in my opinion. But, I am not factoring in signings or trades, so there may be some error in that statement.
There should be zero issues hitting the cap floor or top of the cap space if they want to.
Seattle will draft a mix of players from players with couple years on deals to players with 1 year left to RFA and then will flip players for picks. I expect 3-4 trades of players they pick and they flip for picks.
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This would be an insanely stupid move by Tarasenko. It would allow the Blues to suspend him without pay AND remove his cap hit from our books. This is absolutely a better scenario for the Blues than taking a bad contract back or retaining salary on Tarasenko. It would also crater Tarasenko's reputation since it would come after the Blues attempted to literally give him away for free and cost him salary on his next contract when teams start to view him as a distraction. It would mean Tarasenko misses out on $9.5M of salary this season AND misses out on 1 of the 2 years he has to demonstrate value before hitting the open market.
If Seattle doesn't take him, a Tarasenko holdout shouldn't concern Army in the slightest.
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Could you imagine the drama if Tank started the season as a blue? Bort gonna have to drop the gloves vs a teammate again, haha? I'm ready for Seattle to claim him already.
I have no ill feelings toward Tank at all, just a sad situation and I'm ready for it to end.
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I wouldn't expect a whole lot of drama in the locker room. It will be a media circus and the other players on the team would be happy when that ends. But I'd be stunned if there is much ill will from players toward him. Every guy who reaches the NHL understands that this is a business and that each individual player is looking out for himself above all else. This is exactly what people said about the Avs when Duchene started the year in their locker room and they were fine.
