WJC: 2021 Canada Roster Talk Part 2

[ORRFForever]

Yep his track record playing for Team Canada at basically every level has not been very good.

Yup, but the question is why.

 

[Michoulicious]

Why is Byfield on the fourth line?

He's the 4th best C on the team.

 

[Ginger Papa]

That’s a reasonable hypothesis on the surface, but those that follow more closely are aware that his monster numbers haven’t translated from the OHL to... really anywhere else as of yet. There is hope that he can pick it up, but on merit (and with a such a stacked lineup) he’s properly slotted as a depth player for the moment.

I wouldn’t be surprised if they gave him some second unit PP time to try to get him going, however.

I cannot take credit for the info but I recall another Member mentioned that Quinton is still one of, if not, the youngest player, on the Team this year.

Add to that still no play for development and it’s understandable that he’s going to take a little while to get rolling.

I’m still a believer in him for the Kings, but I’m crossing my fingers for the Tournament.

Edit: Thank you @snipes for the confirmation. I should have taken the time to research this myself

 

[snipes]

I cannot take credit for the info but I recall another Member mentioned that Quinton is still one of, if not, the youngest player, on the Team this year.

Add to that still no play for development and it’s understandable that he’s going to take a little while to get rolling.

I’m still a believer in him for the Kings, but I’m crossing my fingers for the Tournament.

He is the youngest player on Team Canada again this year.

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

Yeah, Byfield is essentially the age that Laf was at the tournament last year.

 

[TheGreekShot]

He's the 4th best C on the team.

He might even be worse than that if we consider all the natural centers that Hockey Canada is moving to the wing. I also still don't understand the "hype" behind Byfield. Yes he's young and has time to develop, but he just doesn't look all that great offensively. His success in Junior hockey was largely because he was in a man's body playing against boys. He doesn't have much actual skill in comparison to most on this team. Calling it now that he'll be a complete bust at the NHL level.

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

 

[ORRFForever]

He might even be worse than that if we consider all the natural centers that Hockey Canada is moving to the wing. I also still don't understand the "hype" behind Byfield. Yes he's young and has time to develop, but he just doesn't look all that great offensively. His success in Junior hockey was largely because he was in a man's body playing against boys. He doesn't have much actual skill in comparison to most on this team. Calling it now that he'll be a complete bust at the NHL level.

I hope he is not a bust but I agree with the rest. The kid is a monster and needs to live up to his potential.

 

[Blame the referee]

I really like Tourigny as a coach, but I want to see Newhook in an offensive role!

 

[VanillaCoke]

Yup, but the question is why.

Because he's not that good, and when he plays against other more skilled players it sticks out like a sore thumb.
If he was 5"11 he wouldn't be a top 60 pick.
I don't see him reaching the hype, he's the anti Hughes.

 

[ORRFForever]

...he's the anti Hughes.

Help me understand what you mean.

 

[57special]

I find it odd that they are using Newhook in a defensive role. Not sure it really matters. Between him and Holloway they should be able to have one hell of a counterattack.

 

[GOALOFSSON]

Dumb takes defended passionately but poorly are the lifeblood of intrigue around here.

Amen

 

[Gigantor The Goalie]

I find it odd that they are using Newhook in a defensive role. Not sure it really matters. Between him and Holloway they should be able to have one hell of a counterattack.

I think it's essentially find the strongest, faster players that can put on a heavy forecheck and have some kind of defensive acumen. As last season progressed Newhook saw more and more time defending last minute leads as well as PK time at BC. I don't hate it. Newhook with better offensive linemates would be ideal however this could be an interesting combination that I'm willing to see play out.

 

[Khrox]

I find it odd that they are using Newhook in a defensive role. Not sure it really matters. Between him and Holloway they should be able to have one hell of a counterattack.

And Pelletier isn't a slouch offensively either (while being a strong defensive player). That's gonna be one of those shut-down lines that will absolutely make a team pay if they try to cheat for offense.

 

[Skolman]

I have a feeling this line is going to be very popular.

I especially can't wait to see Holloway causing problems for the opponents from a physicality standpoint.

This video always fires me up in regards to his game, put together by an Oiler fan on HF.

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

I have a feeling this line is going to be very popular.

I especially can't wait to see Holloway causing problems for the opponents from a physicality standpoint.

This video always fires me up in regards to his game, put together by an Oiler fan on HF.

Yeah, I think the Oilers made a great pick with Holloway.

They have the defence prospects in place and obviously loads of skill with McDavid, Draisaitl, Nuge, and Yamamoto. Now they’ve added a forward that should bring a nice hybrid set of skills.

 

[TheGoldenJet]

For what it's worth, Askarov has gone before Knight in all of the WJC Pools.

All of us draft nerds value Askarov more in this tournament for whatever reason. Doesn't necessarily mean everyone would take Askarov over Knight as a prospect.

I value Knight more for this tournament, if you’re looking for more exceptions. Both good prospects in my eyes.

 

[Choralone]

Dang, so we're back to the narrative that Byfield is a big body but otherwise a stiff? No skill? Ok... This Kings fan remembers a ton of you Team Canada geniuses crying about Jeff Carter's selection to the Sochi team back in 2014 - what a travesty it was. He ended up third in overall scoring on the team, and led all Team Canada forwards.

 

[Pongs21]

Dang, so we're back to the narrative that Byfield is a big body but otherwise a stiff? No skill? Ok... This Kings fan remembers a ton of you Team Canada geniuses crying about Jeff Carter's selection to the Sochi team back in 2014 - what a travesty it was. He ended up third in overall scoring on the team, and led all Team Canada forwards.

That would be awesome and ideal if he could replicate Carter's production. We're not rooting against him, he's just has left people wanting more since expectations are much higher for him.

 

[Hagstrom]

Dang, so we're back to the narrative that Byfield is a big body but otherwise a stiff? No skill? Ok... This Kings fan remembers a ton of you Team Canada geniuses crying about Jeff Carter's selection to the Sochi team back in 2014 - what a travesty it was. He ended up third in overall scoring on the team, and led all Team Canada forwards.

I'm sure most of us would be more than happy for him to prove us wrong

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Dang, so we're back to the narrative that Byfield is a big body but otherwise a stiff? No skill? Ok... This Kings fan remembers a ton of you Team Canada geniuses crying about Jeff Carter's selection to the Sochi team back in 2014 - what a travesty it was. He ended up third in overall scoring on the team, and led all Team Canada forwards.

I mean do you think we would be mad if he does well or something? Lol he has a history of under performing at the international level. It is okay for there to be expectations of a 2nd overall pick at 18 years old. He should be dominate at this tournament and the playing time shouldnt have to be gifted to him. Hopefully he goes out there and earns it.

 

[JackSlater]

Interesting, I'm not sure that someone like Krebs isn't better suited to that role than Newhook is but it will be interesting to watch for in the exhibition. I'm a lot more confused by Drysdale and Byram being paired together but again we'll see how it plays out on ice.

Dang, so we're back to the narrative that Byfield is a big body but otherwise a stiff? No skill? Ok... This Kings fan remembers a ton of you Team Canada geniuses crying about Jeff Carter's selection to the Sochi team back in 2014 - what a travesty it was. He ended up third in overall scoring on the team, and led all Team Canada forwards.

Yes, people didn't realize what they were talking about with Carter. He could play wing or centre, good defensively, great shot (which Canada was a b lacking in) and he always excelled internationally. Byfield has not always excelled internationally, though I think that people have been fairly over the top with complaining about Byfield thus far. Canada hasn't even played another team yet.

 

[Statsy]

He might even be worse than that if we consider all the natural centers that Hockey Canada is moving to the wing. I also still don't understand the "hype" behind Byfield. Yes he's young and has time to develop, but he just doesn't look all that great offensively. His success in Junior hockey was largely because he was in a man's body playing against boys. He doesn't have much actual skill in comparison to most on this team. Calling it now that he'll be a complete bust at the NHL level.

I actually don’t agree with your assessment that it’s his skill set that’s the problem. I can see the guy dangle people and he does it well. That between the legs goal he scored at the Hlinka/Gretzky was elite.

I feel like the problem is something else that I can’t quite put my finger on. Issues with hockey sense or competitive drive are both good candidates.

 

[Mathieukferland]

I actually don’t agree with your assessment that it’s his skill set that’s the problem. I can see the guy dangle people and he does it well. That between the legs goal he scored at the Hlinka/Gretzky was elite.

I feel like the problem is something else that I can’t quite put my finger on. Issues with hockey sense or competitive drive are both good candidates.

He doesn’t have the bottle on the big occasion. I’m Canadian and live in England so maybe this expression won’t mean anything to you but he gives me the impression of a flat-track bully. Fluffs his lines on the big occasion.