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GDT: 2021-22 season game 69 LA Kings vs Edmonton Oilers @6:30pm 3/30/22

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kilowatt said:
Man, the forwards and the defense are like a tale of two different coaches. Carl Grundstrom, 7:42, 1 goal, 1 assist, +3, 2 hits, zero power play time. :laugh:

On the flip side, shout out to Durzi and Bjornfot for playing 26 and 20 minutes respectively, huge games from them (even in a loss) against the two best players in the world. Can't ask for much more from those two.

This was a game of inches and we lost with an injured team. That's how it goes sometimes, but man, the coaches make this so frustrating.
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And that’s the bottom line. This team is doing pretty well all things considered, but they could be doing so much better with even mediocre coaching and that’s the frustrating part.
 
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Although the lost in the shootout stinks at least we got a point. I'm just glad to see Byfield, Kupari and Vilardi having another strong game. Patience will be key. If Byfield didn't hurt his ankle, I really believe he would probably be close to double digit goals by now. Really loved his confidence after he scored. Oh and Todd and IaFAILlo still sucks not sure anyone mentioned that. LOL.
 
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kilowatt said:
Man, the forwards and the defense are like a tale of two different coaches. Carl Grundstrom, 7:42, 1 goal, 1 assist, +3, 2 hits, zero power play time. :laugh:

On the flip side, shout out to Durzi and Bjornfot for playing 26 and 20 minutes respectively, huge games from them (even in a loss) against the two best players in the world. Can't ask for much more from those two.

This was a game of inches and we lost with an injured team. That's how it goes sometimes, but man, the coaches make this so frustrating.
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I like checking these out. Still unsure how much I trust these numbers, considering how I don't know the calculations/data. But it's still interesting to see it all align.

 
The Lukeman said:
Connor McDavid's Oilers could barely squick an extra point tonight. Lots of emotional reactions from a few frustrating games (trust me I know, I put a hole in my wall).

That being said. Rocking 4 rookies had us riding the Oilers for a majority of this game. We are a good team with the most bodies missing from the blue line in the NHL. Everyone is going to be back. And the oilers look real beatable, don't they?
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If I had to choose between the Oilers, Flames, or Avs, it would be the Oilers clearly.
 
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King'sPawn said:
I like checking these out. Still unsure how much I trust these numbers, considering how I don't know the calculations/data. But it's still interesting to see it all align.

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The way things are trending, we are going to take a step forward in terms of young guys developing... Possibly the short-term expense of making the playoffs. With the obvious happy medium being that we make the playoffs while the young guys continue to step up and hopefully get more playing time.
 
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There’s a two fold issue with Kopitars minutes, first 24 is ridiculously high even if he was playing great. Second even if his minutes are right for the rest of the year there’s going to be a fatigue factor from his over usage to date. I’m hoping QB can force the issue by the end of the season so that they can plan for fairly even ice-time next season for Kopi, Danault and QB with Lizotte rounding things out. If they start the season giving Kopi reduced minutes and stuck to it I’m confident he will be a factor still. His game isn’t one that drops off dramatically as long as his usage is managed properl, it just isn’t but him and Todd need to realise it. Same for DD.

There is a lot I like about Todd but his usage of Kopi is not on the list.
 
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ru4reals said:
I caught the game a little late was there a reason why the Kings only had 11 forwards?
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2fold.
1. TM does not like Lias. He's never given him a real chance to be used on offense. If he puts him in and he does not play a perfect 4th line type game, he scratches him the next game. You can tell when he has talked about him, he does not like him. Lias would have a better chance here if he was born in Saskatoon and had no skill; he would then have a better chance here. TM prefers him in Ontario, where Lias is properly used and scores 6 goals in 4 games. 2 of them with between the legs goals, that Lias says is easy to pull off. (if you have elite hands and can put pucks in the net)
2. I think Edler is not up to speed yet and by dressing 7 D, he can give less minutes to whomever is the weakest link of the game - probably non-100% Edler or Moverare.

You can also tell he loves Alex and gives him an A, when he has no game at all - FOR 2 MONTHS.
You can tell he does not think much of Carl, when he has a beastly goal, hits that Oiler behind the net
and takes the puck, goes around the net and buries that puck. Something Alex cannot do. (physically dominating an opponent and going straight to the net and burying it) When asked about the 2 key goals, seconds apart to tie the game, he calls that "3 minutes of offense - or 2 minutes" (it was 14 seconds) and downplays Carl's effort and PRODUCTION on that crucial game tying goal as less important than the Byfield goal. Insane.

Oh, and the big word 'definition' escapes him.
 
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Pretty much what everyone already already said, Todd is a ****ing idiot!!!

Did Kaliyev get the first goal? I know it was changed to Edler but Todd said he got a goal from Kuh-lay-ef lol.
 
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MBH said:
WTF happened to Iafallo?
Overall, his 5 on 5 production isn't that far off from last year.
But 23 games 0-4-4???
The first 44 games he went 14-14-28 - which is about what you'd expect, right?
WTF happened?
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Why was he out there in OT? He was a total liablity on both shifts, with 2 turnovers that gave the Oiler their 2 best chances. Just an absolute mess.
 
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Peter James Bond II said:
2fold.
1. TM does not like Lias. He's never given him a real chance to be used on offense. If he puts him in and he does not play a perfect 4th line type game, he scratches him the next game. You can tell when he has talked about him, he does not like him. Lias would have a better chance here if he was born in Saskatoon and had no skill; he would then have a better chance here. TM prefers him in Ontario, where Lias is properly used and scores 6 goals in 4 games. 2 of them with between the legs goals, that Lias says is easy to pull off. (if you have elite hands and can put pucks in the net)
2. I think Edler is not up to speed yet and by dressing 7 D, he can give less minutes to whomever is the weakest link of the game - probably non-100% Edler or Moverare.

You can also tell he loves Alex and gives him an A, when he has no game at all - FOR 2 MONTHS.
You can tell he does not think much of Carl, when he has a beastly goal, hits that Oiler behind the net
and takes the puck, goes around the net and buries that puck. Something Alex cannot do. (physically dominating an opponent and going straight to the net and burying it) When asked about the 2 key goals, seconds apart to tie the game, he calls that "3 minutes of offense - or 2 minutes" (it was 14 seconds) and downplays Carl's effort and PRODUCTION on that crucial game tying goal as less important than the Byfield goal. Insane.

Oh, and the big word 'definition' escapes him.
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I agree TMac has his favorites. AI is definitely one of them. I personally dont like AI but I dont mind him playing bottom 6 mins. I like Lias as a player and I'm surprised he wasn't given more opportunities in the NHL. Heck his father is a scout for us and has brought us many swedes.

But as someone has said, Tmac is a dinosaur. He won't take away the 1st line just like that. He's going to work the 1st line like Babcock and only slot veteran players. But the irony is AI is technically not a "veteran." He played what 5 seasons with us? I mean what exactly is a veteran?

Also AI has the approval stamp from Kopitar. When a captain wants to play with a specific person what can you do?

I feel so upset because I know our younger players can do much better than AI. When I saw him in OT, I literally turned off my stream.
 
Everyone still with us, watching this thread last night you would think LA got their head pounded in and lost by 2 touch downs......

BTW, I love how everyone in here assumes coaching is just so damned easy, that...that's the real amusing part. You guys get to watch the games, listen to some press conferences, maybe catch a practice or two if you are that die hard, and assume you know every single thing that's going on.....just.....interesting that type of frame of mind, it's like you get to see 5 pieces of a 1000 piece jigsaw puzzle, and you 100% know what that puzzle is, despite not having the picture.
 
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GoldenBearHockey said:
Everyone still with us, watching this thread last night you would think LA got their head pounded in and lost by 2 touch downs......

BTW, I love how everyone in here assumes coaching is just so damned easy, that...that's the real amusing part. You guys get to watch the games, listen to some press conferences, maybe catch a practice or two if you are that die hard, and assume you know every single thing that's going on.....just.....interesting that type of frame of mind, it's like you get to see 5 pieces of a 1000 piece jigsaw puzzle, and you 100% know what that puzzle is, despite not having the picture.
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It doesn’t take Scotty Bowman to realize that Iafallo should not be playing the role he is currently playing on this team.

The worst forward on the team the last 1/3 of the season is playing 1st line, #1 PP, PK, 4 on 4, 3 on 3. Is this some kind twisted joke by the coaching staff?

How do you justify sending out a useless winger to take an offensive zone face off in a 4 on 4 situation against arguably the two best players in the league?

People have a legit gripe about the usage of many players on this team. The fact that usage of forwards is a unifying topic on a board where no one agrees on anything should tell you all you need to know.
 
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Herby said:
It doesn’t take Scotty Bowman to realize that Iafallo should not be playing the role he is currently playing on this team.

The worst forward on the team the last 1/3 of the season is playing 1st line, #1 PP, PK, 4 on 4, 3 on 3. Is this some kind twisted joke by the coaching staff?

How do you justify sending out a useless winger to take an offensive zone face off in a 4 on 4 situation against arguably the two best players in the league?

People have a legit gripe about the usage of many players on this team. The fact that usage of forwards is a unifying topic on a board where no one agrees on anything should tell you all you need to know.
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Like I said, you are seeing 5 puzzle pieces....just like I am, here's the difference, I recognize the things I don't know. Team Chemistry, what happens in the lockerroom, the team meetings, off the ice, I have no f***ing clue about that shit, only know that it matters.

I mean for f*** sake, best player in the league, ever, Gretzky, played with Krushelnsyki......

But we tried Arvidsson, didn't work, Kaliyev, un determined if that works or not, he seems to have better chemistry with the younger players, not a big surprise there, we tried Fagemo, no one wants to pony up what it would take to get a higher skilled player there, so what else is there?

I'm not arguing that Iafallo has been good, I'm saying most of us on this board don't know the actual details of what is going on, so you can continue to be pissed over the things you don't know, or you can recognize you don't know them and move on.
 
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GoldenBearHockey said:
Like I said, you are seeing 5 puzzle pieces....just like I am, here's the difference, I recognize the things I don't know. Team Chemistry, what happens in the lockerroom, the team meetings, off the ice, I have no f***ing clue about that shit, only know that it matters.

I mean for f*** sake, best player in the league, ever, Gretzky, played with Krushelnsyki......

But we tried Arvidsson, didn't work, Kaliyev, un determined if that works or not, he seems to have better chemistry with the younger players, not a big surprise there, we tried Fagemo, no one wants to pony up what it would take to get a higher skilled player there, so what else is there?

I'm not arguing that Iafallo has been good, I'm saying most of us on this board don't know the actual details of what is going on, so you can continue to be pissed over the things you don't know, or you can recognize you don't know them and move on.
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If you’re consistently alone in your opinion it means no one cares about them.
 
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DoktorJeep said:
If you’re consistently alone in your opinion it means no one cares about them.
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I guess that's one way to look at it lol I also guess I don't really give a f*** if I'm alone.....

I bet you dollars to donuts you can't even articulate what my opinion is.
 
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