GDT: 2021-22 season game 40 LA Kings vs Tampa Bay Lightning @7:30pm 1/18/22

[Schmooley]

Brown honestly should retire. He's had a great career but he's just brutal. I really hope Blake doesn't extend him.

Was watching the game next to a non kings fan and he was hysterical laughing at how slow Brown was skating with the puck and then giving it away. In my head I was thinking it wasnt even his worst game this season.

 

[YAYSAY]

Was watching the game next to a non kings fan and he was hysterical laughing at how slow Brown was skating with the puck and then giving it away. In my head I was thinking it wasnt even his worst game this season.

He doesn't even backcheck anymore. He goes behind someone else to push them with his stick. This is the guy who has spent a good chunk of time on the 1st line this season.

 

[kingsholygrail]

I think Brown will retire. I don't see him wanting to float around the league away from the family and I'm sure he's got inroads to a job with organization. He has a lot of leadership qualities that can carry off the ice. In the meantime, a reduced role has benefited him and the team the most. They need to stick to that.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Maatta's just really bad. No other way around it. Another in a long list of really shitty bottom pairing depth defensemen. Would much rather see Moverare in there. Or anyone really.

Love Lizotte and Lemieux. That's a trend almost every single game. They just work really hard, hit everything they can, and don't let the other team have any space.

Brown honestly should retire. He's had a great career but he's just brutal. I really hope Blake doesn't extend him.

Same complaints win or lose. Play Kopitar and Doughty less. Play Lizotte, Lemieux, and the kids more. Put Durzi and Kaliyev on the top power play. Womp womp.

Yeah, sometimes I wonder if I'm reactionary, then I realize my complaints are the same regardless of the play or the result. There are very obvious good things and bad things on this team...they're just more apparent in losses.Winning has a habit of hiding, say, Mattaa's yips.

Was watching the game next to a non kings fan and he was hysterical laughing at how slow Brown was skating with the puck and then giving it away. In my head I was thinking it wasnt even his worst game this season.

There was one shift where Brown made 5 absolutely bonehead plays with the puck and it just kept coming back to him. He is absolutely toast, even in a limited role. I'm not gonna let his random production fool me, one great play followed by 50 bad ones doesn't make you a good player. I love the dude to death but he needs to simplify his game and he refuses to.

 

[kilowatt]

Was watching the game next to a non kings fan and he was hysterical laughing at how slow Brown was skating with the puck and then giving it away. In my head I was thinking it wasnt even his worst game this season.

I just wanna know what his plan was entering the zone on a 1-on-4 after shrugging off two passing opportunities in the neutral zone. The element of surprise maybe? All four Lightning players saying "no way he's actually gonna try this by himself"?

 

[ru4reals]

We all can see Brown is literally on his last leg, yet for some odd reason Todd decides to put him back on the 1st line tonight against the Champs on the back end of a back to back where they got thumped in the first game. Fagemo was doing well on that line subbing for Kempe but nope I'm gonna put Dustin on that line. Ahhhh not even mad we lost to a great team and gonna lose a lot more but just mind boggling at some of these decisions. I'd be happy if we get 1 win on this upcoming roadie.

 

[rapots]

To me, that was one bad game by refs. At least 3 things comes to my mind which were very wrong and resulted on outcome

 

[kingsfan28]

I've never seen a player get taken off his game as much as Doughty does. Sometimes it's the other team, sometimes it's the poor play of his own team, tonight it was a missed call that he lets completely avalanche out of control. Not sure if the LA broadcast picked it up, but you could hear him cussing out the officials on multiple occasions. Just completely brain dead, you don't really see other players do it to often, Drew is going to Drew.

Doughty was not good tonight. Turnovers and the missed clear when we were up 2-1 I thought changed the game around. We had them rattled, and then they tie it right up. Then he followed that up with the clueless play during the pp that led to shorty goal.

Yeah, the bs call at the end of the 2nd, followed by the hook that wasn't called just messed him up the rest of the night. He had legit beefs for sure, but man, the ref just put the whistles away after Cooper whined about some of the calls. The Kings should've had a few more pp's.

 

[kingsfan28]

See that's the kind of insuffereable bullshit i hate about TBL

Foote with ANOTHER crosscheck on a downed opponent, no call, won't answer the bell

Yeah, still scratching my head to why there wasn't a crosschecking call after Lizotte scored. It was blatant and intentional and the ref just watched it and said, meh.But then later, he had no problem calling Durzi for the same thing in front. So much for calling more crosschecking penalty.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

What the Kings SHOULD have done last night

 

[Ray Martyniuk]

I think Brown will retire. I don't see him wanting to float around the league away from the family and I'm sure he's got inroads to a job with organization. He has a lot of leadership qualities that can carry off the ice. In the meantime, a reduced role has benefited him and the team the most. They need to stick to that.

yep

 

[The Butcher]

To me, that was one bad game by refs. At least 3 things comes to my mind which were very wrong and resulted on outcome

I still don't understand how you crosscheck a 5' player to the ice as he's celebrating a goal and not get a penalty. Officiating was absurd.

 

[Fat Elvis]

Team has really missed its' MVP Kempe the last couple games.

 

[SmytheKing]

For the love of god can the Kings stop doing the "drop pass at the red line and everyone stand at the blue line except the puck carrier" plan on the powerplay? I don't think I've ever seen it work and it just leads to turnover after turnover. It seemed the only time they established any pressure on the powerplay was when they'd dump it with speed and chase it down in the corner.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I still don't understand how you crosscheck a 5' player to the ice as he's celebrating a goal and not get a penalty. Officiating was absurd.

and then call the same thing--just during the flow of play--only minutes later on Durzi.

Those refs were petrified by Jon Cooper it was unreal. I've seen bad calls before, even this season, but I'm not sure I've ever seen 1. such a blatant double standard and 2. such a change in the tone after getting yelled at by a coach.

Remmeber when Lizotte got penalized for yelling 'f***' at no one in particular? These refs let the coach and bench tee off on them for minutes, until the end of the next tv timeout basically. It was insane. What an entitled bunch of pricks. But hard to blame them when ti works.

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

For the love of god can the Kings stop doing the "drop pass at the red line and everyone stand at the blue line except the puck carrier" plan on the powerplay? I don't think I've ever seen it work and it just leads to turnover after turnover. It seemed the only time they established any pressure on the powerplay was when they'd dump it with speed and chase it down in the corner.

This must have been the first game you've seen all year -- they've used this strategy from day 1 using Kempe as the puck carrier and have been pretty successful with it. The problem the last two games is that Kopitar can't skate like Kempe.

 

[lumbergh]

I still don't understand how you crosscheck a 5' player to the ice as he's celebrating a goal and not get a penalty. Officiating was absurd.

It could be that the ref knew he missed a questionable call on the trip that immediately preceded the goal and that's how he made up for it.

 

[SmytheKing]

This must have been the first game you've seen all year -- they've used this strategy from day 1 using Kempe as the puck carrier and have been pretty successful with it. The problem the last two games is that Kopitar can't skate like Kempe.

They've been using it for years and it's a terrible strategy because if the one puck carrier doesn't get it into the zone everyone else is standing still and the PK has plenty of time to get rid of it and waste even more of the powerplay. You're trying to break into the zone against 4 other players and your teammates are standing still at the blue line.

Also, there are only five teams who have a worse powerplay than the Kings. If that's "pretty successful", well I'd hate to see pretty bad. Yes I know that the entry into the zone isn't the entire reason for the powerplay issues, but wasting 30 seconds because you can't break into the zone and you have to go get the puck again certainly doesn't help. Not only that, but even when that DOES work, the other team is already set up in the zone instead of scrambling to find their positioning.

 

[Sol]

Things I love to see: Blake Lizotte flying in, stealing the puck, sniping.
Part II: after eating the crosscheck, you know who was in Foote's face? Turcotte. The ref had to bail him out even though Foote has a full head on Turc.

Things I don't love? Foote throwing ANOTHER crosscheck late on the game on a downed Lemeiux to no call and still wouldn't scrap. Adam should be ashamed. What a f***ing chickenshit.

Also things I REALLY HATE--TM's interview. Basically oh the vets weren't very good either but THE KIDS weren't taking the bull by the horns.

wait did he seriously throw the kids under the bus ??

 

[Sol]

For the love of god can the Kings stop doing the "drop pass at the red line and everyone stand at the blue line except the puck carrier" plan on the powerplay? I don't think I've ever seen it work and it just leads to turnover after turnover. It seemed the only time they established any pressure on the powerplay was when they'd dump it with speed and chase it down in the corner.

it’s so f***ing bad

 

[Bandit]

Woke up today thinking it couldn’t be real, but yup. We really DID lose to a team last night that only had 4 D the whole game. Absolute embarrassment.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

They've been using it for years and it's a terrible strategy because if the one puck carrier doesn't get it into the zone everyone else is standing still and the PK has plenty of time to get rid of it and waste even more of the powerplay. You're trying to break into the zone against 4 other players and your teammates are standing still at the blue line.

Also, there are only five teams who have a worse powerplay than the Kings. If that's "pretty successful", well I'd hate to see pretty bad. Yes I know that the entry into the zone isn't the entire reason for the powerplay issues, but wasting 30 seconds because you can't break into the zone and you have to go get the puck again certainly doesn't help. Not only that, but even when that DOES work, the other team is already set up in the zone instead of scrambling to find their positioning.

Considering most every team uses it....it's the new NHL

 

[head eyes]

 

[BigKing]

It was good for this team to play in a game against a great team with some intensity to it. I'm not as big into the narrative that they folded in the 3rd: they made mistakes that a team makes when they still aren't great and have some bad players on it, namely #6 last night.

The rough thing about it was this was a classic game for those--like myself--that have questioned Doughty's leadership. It's one thing to do the hissy-fit routine in 2012 against Arizona when he's killing it out there and another whenever we've seen it over the last five or six seasons. Refs were embarrassing last night but he can't lose his cool like that: channel it into a big hit or a good play. The young guys will follow that example but the whole losing his cool/baby act doesn't help the future nor the outcome of the game in question.

Still nice to see them not wilt in that 2nd period. This is a team that has been bulldozed for years now whenever a team ramps up the temperature. Progress.

 

[Bandit]

Worth every penny.