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Speculation: 2021-22 LA Kings News, Rumors, Roster discussion part III

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Would the Caps make a good trade partner. They need to clear room to sign Ovi and Samsonov. We still need a LD and top R forward. Who do you like on their team and what are you willing to give up?
 
Cheech89 said:
Would the Caps make a good trade partner. They need to clear room to sign Ovi and Samsonov. We still need a LD and top R forward. Who do you like on their team and what are you willing to give up?
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I imagine the Kings would trade Wagner that plays the right side and lhd Maatta or Clague.
 
KopitarFAN said:
This is what people are missing, just because a kid is drafted as a Center doesn't mean they are forever a Center.
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I like wingers playing wing because they don't need to transition to a different playstyle. So I don't think it's as simple as slapping someone onto wing and expecting it to automatically work efficiently
 
Kingspiracy said:
If they are on their way out, perhaps Eich should be considered instead of danault, then kopitar focusses even more on the defensive side
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Higher risk and higher reward. The last rumored ask I saw for Eichel was 6 players for one, which is astronomical if there isn’t significant salary retention. But it has a lever to move salary back, lessening some of the risks. Given the reports that Eichel is skating and his GM is happy to see him in camp, I think it’s something to seriously consider for LA. All talk of the experimental back surgery has completely died down afaik. And everything points to the Sabres rebuilding, so the Kings have the means to make a deal.

Baseline condition for a serious offer is the Kings medical staff gets to examine Eichel and clear him for play at the start of next season. And even with this, the risk remains that Jack gets injured early on and all signs point to the pre existing condition. Now you’re faced with a Jason Allison situation. So this, plus other factors like the money owed and upcoming NMC means that the Buffalo ask for Eichel has to come down from 6 for 1.

Here are my opening terms for the deal from the Kings side. And you have to keep in mind, you’re bidding against at least one other team with the means to make the deal. Very likely the Ducks.

1. Only Eichel comes from Buffalo. You’re getting the best player in the transaction at a premium price, don’t waste time and get distracted from the goal.

2. The core of your offer is next years first (lottery protected with $1M salary retained) and one of Vilardi or Turcotte. If this isn’t good enough, I don’t think LA is in any deal.

3. You offer 4 for 1 with at least $1M additional of salary retention.

4. Pick any 1 of the following: Kempe, Walker, Roy. No other NHL players past their ELC available.

5. Pick one NHL ELC player from the following list: Bjornfot, Anderson, Moore

If we got a medically cleared Eichel for an $8M cap hit and it cost us a lottery protected first, Vilardi, Walker, and Moore, I think it should be seriously considered.
 
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Elliotte Friedman mentioned today that he thinks the Kings are one of the teams that are pursuing Eichel.

Dave Pagnotta's column also notes the Kings still interested in Eichel

Busy Draft could lead to busy week — The Fourth Period

Kings notes

  • Since I’m in Los Angeles, I might as well quickly touch on the Kings, who had a very good draft weekend. General Manager Rob Blake is still on the lookout for a top-six forward and a left-shot defenceman. He’ll continue to fish around the trade market and I expect him to dip his toe in the free agency pool this week.
 
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DoktorJeep said:
Higher risk and higher reward. The last rumored ask I saw for Eichel was 6 players for one, which is astronomical if there isn’t significant salary retention. But it has a lever to move salary back, lessening some of the risks. Given the reports that Eichel is skating and his GM is happy to see him in camp, I think it’s something to seriously consider for LA. All talk of the experimental back surgery has completely died down afaik. And everything points to the Sabres rebuilding, so the Kings have the means to make a deal.

Baseline condition for a serious offer is the Kings medical staff gets to examine Eichel and clear him for play at the start of next season. And even with this, the risk remains that Jack gets injured early on and all signs point to the pre existing condition. Now you’re faced with a Jason Allison situation. So this, plus other factors like the money owed and upcoming NMC means that the Buffalo ask for Eichel has to come down from 6 for 1.

Here are my opening terms for the deal from the Kings side. And you have to keep in mind, you’re bidding against at least one other team with the means to make the deal. Very likely the Ducks.

1. Only Eichel comes from Buffalo. You’re getting the best player in the transaction at a premium price, don’t waste time and get distracted from the goal.

2. The core of your offer is next years first (lottery protected with $1M salary retained) and one of Vilardi or Turcotte. If this isn’t good enough, I don’t think LA is in any deal.

3. You offer 4 for 1 with at least $1M additional of salary retention.

4. Pick any 1 of the following: Kempe, Walker, Roy. No other NHL players past their ELC available.

5. Pick one NHL ELC player from the following list: Bjornfot, Anderson, Moore

If we got a medically cleared Eichel for an $8M cap hit and it cost us a lottery protected first, Vilardi, Walker, and Moore, I think it should be seriously considered.
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It is simply not true that all talk of the experimental back surgery has completely died down.
Buffalo management is just trying to keep this issue quiet now.
This is all.
Until Eichel health situation is cleared Kings should not even consider trading for him.
 
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It's a sunk cost fallacy getting rid of prospects now to bring in someone to capitalize on two years of a productive Kopitar and Doughty if they're not part of a long-term plan. It's all about maximizing who's playing for us 3-5 years from now. I don't care who goes on Kopitar's wing if it's just about wringing production from him now.
 
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Sol said:
I like wingers playing wing because they don't need to transition to a different playstyle. So I don't think it's as simple as slapping someone onto wing and expecting it to automatically work efficiently
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Sure. But we're not talking about guys making the switch at the NHL level, we've even heard them talk about in interviews on KOTP, we could see any number of Thomas, Kupari, Turcotte & Madden make the switch this season depending on what's going on at the NHL level and if they can get them Top 9 minutes in the NHL sooner, 1-2 could make the switch.
 
Cheech89 said:
Would the Caps make a good trade partner. They need to clear room to sign Ovi and Samsonov. We still need a LD and top R forward. Who do you like on their team and what are you willing to give up?
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Orlov is a good player that the Kings could use. He can be creative offensively, he will hit, can skate, get pucks on goal from the point, and cover in the defensive zone. I don't know if the Caps will trade him since Ovechkin likes to have a couple of Russian teammates. Kempny was good before getting injured. I don't know how good he will be when he returns. Might be a buy low situation.

Ovechkin has said for the last year he will only play for the Caps. Oshie has slowed down. That leaves Wilson. He would add scoring, speed and physical play.

The Caps are very close to having to rebuild so they would probably like some of the Kings prospects
 
DoktorJeep said:
If we got a medically cleared Eichel for an $8M cap hit and it cost us a lottery protected first, Vilardi, Walker, and Moore, I think it should be seriously considered.
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I doubt this would get Eichel, but it's about as far as I would go as well. But I think Buffalo would want: First(Not lottery protected), Turcotte, Bjornfot, Kempe. That's 4 first-rounders and would go a long way towards rebuilding their team and it would look better to their fanbase. I'd possibly throw in another pick. I don't think the lottery protection means much, if the Kings landed Eichel they would be a playoff team.

Buffalo would certainly want more, but I wouldn't go much further given the risk.
 
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Qualifying offers are due tomorrow for RFA's. Hoven reports the Kings will not qualify Athanasiou, Eyssimont, Luff, Steenbergen (new guy in AZ trade) and Rymsha, making them UFA's. Qualifying offers will be made to Clague, Strand, Moverare, Burke (new guy in AZ trade) and Andersson. UFA's Brickley and Alt also not expected to return. Have not heard anything about Grosenick. He also says the Kings do want to sign Athanasiou as a UFA. This makes sense as the Kings may want to avoid an arbitration fight since he has rights this year as an RFA, however also could drive the price up if other clubs are involved. Hard to say if that is the case since SEA just passed on him and there was little interest in him last season.
 
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Qualifying offers are due tomorrow for RFA's. Hoven reports the Kings will not qualify Athanasiou, Eyssimont, Luff, Steenbergen (new guy in AZ trade) and Rymsha, making them UFA's. Qualifying offers will be made to Clague, Strand, Moverare, Burke (new guy in AZ trade) and Andersson. UFA's Brickley and Alt also not expected to return. Have not heard anything about Grosenick. He also says the Kings do want to sign Athanasiou as a UFA. This makes sense as the Kings may want to avoid an arbitration fight since he has rights this year as an RFA, however also could drive the price up if other clubs are involved. Hard to say if that is the case since SEA just passed on him and there was little interest in him last season.
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So is it a case of Athana-see-you :surrender or is Blake trying to sign him for less?
 
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SFKingshomer said:
Scared to see what an Eichel deal looks like after the Jones and Ristolainen deals.
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Yeah same here. I was initially in the trade for Eichel camp because I figured a deal of 22 1st, Turcotte, Walker, and Kempe would get us a deal (that is the most I would pay). But I have a feeling it is more like 22 1st, Turcotte, Bjornfot, Kempe, Roy or Anderson. or something crazy like that. I would sit this one out.

That said, we have way too many prospects. Not sure how they area all going to fit the roster, even if you transition out plugs like Wagner, AA, etc.
 
Blog Friedman just posted once again mentions the kings taking a look at Danault. Also mentions Saad as a possibility as we’ve heard before.
The most interesting note is him saying Schwartz to Seattle is basically done.(Seattle was already able to talk to him during their exclusive window.)

He thinks Landeskog and Colorado get it done but also said he’s not very confident about it, so there’s still an option for the Kings there…

Big week for potential Jack Eichel trade, free agency predictions
 
kinghock said:
It is simply not true that all talk of the experimental back surgery has completely died down.
Buffalo management is just trying to keep this issue quiet now.
This is all.
Until Eichel health situation is cleared Kings should not even consider trading for him.
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im going to lay this out as easy as possible because the whole injury thing seems to cause a lot of misunderstanding.

Jack Eichel needs surgery,

there is not one sole surgery option.

he demands a new surgery no hockey player has received and Sabres doctors will not sign off on it.

there are more proven surgical options. They want one of those.

both sides agreed to the rest period.

neither side (Jack or Sabres doctors) have changed their mind nor will they.

any team acquiring him will already know if their doctors are on board with his surgery choice. If they aren’t…I can’t imagine they’d even make a call. Unless…the demand is just to get out of Buffalo without having to be the bad guy who demanded a trade and he will do whatever the next team’s doctors suggest…such as a more standard and proven surgery.
 


Brandon Saad: St. Louis, Islanders, Pittsburgh or Los Angeles
Phillip Danault: Los Angeles takes a surprise look

Eichel:
“Our expectation is that Jack is going to be traded in the near future, and all of our discussions have been centred around that issue,” came a dual response from Peter Fish and Peter Donatelli (Jack's camp).

They wouldn’t comment further about Eichel’s status. He’s skating, but it’s believed he will still need surgery — although the Sabres haven’t approved his preferred choice, a disc replacement.
 
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