tomd
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You're saying two different things. The talent went away, and that's when the culture shifted?
DL was his way or the highway? Is that why the first guy he traded from the Cup teams was King in 2017? Why he got lost in the eyes of Mike Richards in that cabin in the woods? Why he brought Voynov in for a practice after? His last move for a Cup was to bring in a guy that cried his way out of Columbus too. Not exactly bursting with character.
You do wonder if he would've drafted Brown and Kopitar though. Quick, maybe. Obviously he took Doughty.
It's obvious from the current success of Toffoli, Carter, Muzzin, Martinez, Forbort, Campbell, et al that the talent didn't go away...it just stopped being produced in LA. I maintain it was because of a culture which was absent leadership at all levels in the organization. You have yet to offer a better answer.
Richards was Lombardi's blind spot for sure and I spent dozens of posts saying that the trade would end up being a disaster for LA. But it got the Kings two cups. Take the good with the bad I guess. Same with Carter. Not sure what your points are regarding King and Voynov. He liked to have criminals on the team but it was definitely a two-edged sword and in the end it killed him.