Speculation: 2021-21 LA Kings News, Rumors, Roster discussion part V

[bland]

I am completely onboard with retiring #23 when he steps away.

Can we do it Saturday?

 

[tny760]

He is getting paid to not play. The only thing he can do is hit a stationary opponent now and then. 11 games, 0 goals on 35 shots? 2 assists and minus 4.
I watched all his shifts last night and he was rarely in a good position to help 33 and 11. 33 and 11 made a few plays together and 23 was not around. A few
of the times, he came into the attacking area a full 3 seconds later.

He's playing more and more perimieter and not going to the net, like he used to. He cannot play perimeter, as he cannot move quickly into prime areas
and he's not great at receiving passes, has no 1 timer and many of the last 35 shots have no zip or ticketed for top corners, etc. The only thing
he did last night ok, was to make a few 15-30 foot passes that connected, but not ones that were going to lead to anything and ones that most
NHL players could make. There's nothing creative, truly assertive, dynamic, catalyst driving, or of any playmaking qualities to his game; 1 iota.
Kopitar and Arvidsson have zero chance at any success, without having an NHL level linemate playing with them. Zero chance. Both of them
can still play, but not the level botrh of them were 3 years ago. So, they certainly cannot carry someone playing at a third line AHL level with them.

Switch 23 out for Iafallo and they would have success. I'd rather keep him with Danault, though. I think Turcotte could step in Saturday on LW with them
and you would see a totally new dynamic with 11 and 33. I know it won't happen and sure, Turcotte should perhaps not come in and play #1 LW Saturday.
But he sure would bust azz and not fail like 23 does every shift. Frk could step in and not fail either. Even Grundstrom would be fine. No, he's not a #1 LW,
but either is 23 and Grundstrom would bust azz and not disappoint either.

god, could you imagine, the los angeles kings calling up their AHL-leading scorer to help the big club in all the situations that they need help in, a mid 6 winger who scores PPGs..

ha

laughable pipe dream

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[Raccoon Jesus]

S
I called BS cause it's BS.

Regression is always placed on the coach here -outside maybe Clague- and that's the problem. What is there to show GV's regression is a coaching thing? Because he's not getting played? Maybe he's not earning that ice time. When you were going on and on about him when he first was getting scratched, people pointed out his numbers suck. Virtually everywhere. He was one of the worst forwards out there, tied maybe with Tkachev. I'm not saying it's all on Gabe, but we went 1-5-1 in the games he's played and last night was the first game we played without getting a point since he left the line up. The coach is to ice the best possible line up and Gabe wasn't part of it. Is that regression on TM or Gabe? Seems to me Gabe had a roster spot last year and now he doesn't and for everyone complaining about TM playing the vets over the kids, Gabe is more of a vet than Kaliyev is. Seems like he lost his spot to a rookie. TM shouldn't be expected to throw the worst forward on the team out on the ice over and over again. He looked like a dog turd for seven games and got turfed out because of it. Calling a kid out for his bad play is part of development, in this case he was called out by getting demoted.

Well we lost last night so according to you and a few others that's the only metric that matters so that invalidates the whole conversation, right?

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

god, could you imagine, the los angeles kings calling up their AHL-leading scorer to help the big club in all the situations that they need help in, a mid 6 winger who scores PPGs..

ha

laughable pipe dream

:[

Yeah but if he can't check on the 4th line, what good is he on the power play? That spot is reserved for the two-way bubble hockey guys.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

I said before the season started that any team icing Dustin Brown in its top six is not a playoff team, and the longer this goes on, the more we will see the top line struggle to get on the scoresheet.

 

[Lt Dan]

I said before the season started that any team icing Dustin Brown in its top six is not a playoff team, and the longer this goes on, the more we will see the top line struggle to get on the scoresheet.

Indeed

It is time to bump Dustin down and have Vilardi, Kaliyev, or even my mom on that line over DB

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

All I know is thank goodness they benched Grundstrom last night so he could think about what he wasn't doing wrong while he watched others fumble the puck all over the ice from the press box. That'll teach him.

 

[Lt Dan]

All I know is thank goodness they benched Grundstrom last night so he could think about what he wasn't doing wrong while he watched others fumble the puck all over the ice from the press box. That'll teach him.

another person I would rather have on the top line over Brown.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

another person I would rather have on the top line over Brown.

Lemieux-Lizotte-Brown sounds good to me, since they can buzzsaw all the skating for him, and hell they may even drag him into some physicality.

Something like Arvidsson-Kopitar-Andersson would be good for that line right now.

 

[apocalypse]

He is getting paid to not play. The only thing he can do is hit a stationary opponent now and then. 11 games, 0 goals on 35 shots? 2 assists and minus 4.
I watched all his shifts last night and he was rarely in a good position to help 33 and 11. 33 and 11 made a few plays together and 23 was not around. A few
of the times, he came into the attacking area a full 3 seconds later.

He's playing more and more perimieter and not going to the net, like he used to. He cannot play perimeter, as he cannot move quickly into prime areas
and he's not great at receiving passes, has no 1 timer and many of the last 35 shots have no zip or ticketed for top corners, etc. The only thing
he did last night ok, was to make a few 15-30 foot passes that connected, but not ones that were going to lead to anything and ones that most
NHL players could make. There's nothing creative, truly assertive, dynamic, catalyst driving, or of any playmaking qualities to his game; 1 iota.
Kopitar and Arvidsson have zero chance at any success, without having an NHL level linemate playing with them. Zero chance. Both of them
can still play, but not the level botrh of them were 3 years ago. So, they certainly cannot carry someone playing at a third line AHL level with them.

Switch 23 out for Iafallo and they would have success. I'd rather keep him with Danault, though. I think Turcotte could step in Saturday on LW with them
and you would see a totally new dynamic with 11 and 33. I know it won't happen and sure, Turcotte should perhaps not come in and play #1 LW Saturday.
But he sure would bust azz and not fail like 23 does every shift. Frk could step in and not fail either. Even Grundstrom would be fine. No, he's not a #1 LW,
but either is 23 and Grundstrom would bust azz and not disappoint either.

Put kempe in for brown and see what happens. Boom! Instant goals.

 

[Chazz Reinhold]

 

[tny760]

my heart..

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Well, its still f***ing Kempe, but steps in the right direction!

 

[Little Psycho]

Freaking finally although Kempe has never really meshed with Kopi. Baby steps I suppose.

 

[King'sPawn]

Well, its still f***ing Kempe, but steps in the right direction!

Yup. Still meh on Kempe given more leash over, well, any other rookie/journeyman. But if it HAS to be between those two, I'd pick Kempe.

 

[ru4reals]

I think Brown needs a day off or two, come back say last home game of the season and then send him off to retirement. Thank you for your services and helping the Kings get 2 cups but time to hang them up.

 

[Peter James Bond II]

Freaking finally although Kempe has never really meshed with Kopi. Baby steps I suppose.

As good as can be hoped. Maybe Kempe and Arvidsson can connect....with Lias now with Kupari, maybe he can dig pucks and make plays with him and also have Brown go to the
net and Lias can get pucks to the net and Brown may be able to cash one in. I just hope Lias stays healthy and no groin issues. He looked awesome in camp.

 

[FSL KINGS]

Sure glad we didn't move the vets because they earned the right to get bumped down the line up & finish their careers on the 3rd & 4th line. Shot at cup or bottom 6?

 

[bland]

Poor Kupari.

Give that line three games of futility before Kupari is sent back to Ontario.

 

[bland]

Yup. Still meh on Kempe given more leash over, well, any other rookie/journeyman. But if it HAS to be between those two, I'd pick Kempe.

Yeah, over the last 41 games Kempe has 8 goals and Brown has 6. Cherry picked the numbers for a half season.

Gotta love that our top line has such potent options. Vilardi has 6 in his last 41, Moore has 7. Good thing we can lean on the vets.

 

[kingsfan]

Well we lost last night so according to you and a few others that's the only metric that matters so that invalidates the whole conversation, right?

Cause one game makes a season, right?

 

[KINGS17]

No team with just one playoff game win in 7 years should have any sacred cows relying on ancient past laurels.

I would eat some of the sacred cows, but the price of steak is just too high right now. Do we have any sacred hot dogs?

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Cause one game makes a season, right?

No but according to you and @Axl Rhoadz nothing else mattered but winning. Well, we're not on a winning streak, so now what?

I'm being facetious, obviously--and you're illustrating you can understand how foolish that reasoning is to the big picture now that it's not convenient to your argument.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Quick sporting the .940 is amazing.

Better figure out how to score in a hurry though, Quick isn't going to perform at a .940 all year, and Petersen is about to get sacrificed to the Canes...

 

[Fat Elvis]

Might be a good time for the Brown Appreciation thread.