Speculation: 2021-21 LA Kings News, Rumors, Roster discussion part V

[Kaners Bald Spot]

When is Byfield returning from injury?

 

[The Lukeman]

Jack Eichel has stepped up for his team mates multiple time in his career, something no one else could do on this road trip did

 

[Reaper45]

We don't have many guys anymore who make an opponent "fight for every inch" of ice. For the three seasons from 2011-12 to 2013-14, this was a term that was often used to describe the Kings.

The 2013 playoff season against an aggressive and hard hitting Blues team is one of the most physical series I have ever seen, and the Kings outhit them and wore them down. That series was emblematic of the Kings' identity. It is hard to decipher what this current team wants to be in terms of an identity.

to be honest aside from Doughty and to an extent Walker, the only solid identity the Kings have is a mobile but limited offensive upside defense. Roy, Anderson, Bjornfot, Edler, Strand, and Maatta. Yuck. I would honestly take a MA Bergeron, all offense defense be damned defenseman over one of these guys at this point.

 

[Reaper45]

Jack Eichel has stepped up for his team mates multiple time in his career, something no one else could do on this road trip did

And he’d do it for the Kings and get slobberknocked and his career would be over. Just say no to Eichel.

 

[BigKing]

Just look at the Johnson hit tonight against Vegas. He cranks a 4th liner and, immediately mind you, a young non-fighter drops the gloves to answer for it. That's what real teams do.

You saw Lias try and do it last year after Vilardi ate one late in the season. We have encouraging moments like that but they get washed away by pathetic moments like the hits on Roy, Bjornfot and now Doughty. It goes back further than that as well...really starts in that 2017 season and has only gotten worse.

 

[Jason Squirties]

Just look at the Johnson hit tonight against Vegas. He cranks a 4th liner and, immediately mind you, a young non-fighter drops the gloves to answer for it. That's what real teams do.

You saw Lias try and do it last year after Vilardi ate one late in the season. We have encouraging moments like that but they get washed away by pathetic moments like the hits on Roy, Bjornfot and now Doughty. It goes back further than that as well...really starts in that 2017 season and has only gotten worse.

I hate when you say things like this and are correct. It's depressing as hell and we're 6 games into the season, I literally can't think of anything to look forward to that isn't at the very least 3 months away.

 

[ru4reals]

Looks like Kupari and Kaliyev are being sent down now? Even though they haven't been doing much I was actually tuning in to watch them play. Now if they are really sent down there's absolutely no interest in watching Kopi and 3 third lines fumbling around the ice for 60 minutes. I'm really now in the favor of going in a new direction with Blake and the front office. They've managed to build the softest team in the league and it doesn't look like it's getting better moving foreword. Trying to keep the positive vibes but goodness sakes this is sad.

 

[kingsfan]

Looks like Kupari and Kaliyev are being sent down now? Even though they haven't been doing much I was actually tuning in to watch them play. Now if they are really sent down there's absolutely no interest in watching Kopi and 3 third lines fumbling around the ice for 60 minutes. I'm really now in the favor of going in a new direction with Blake and the front office. They've managed to build the softest team in the league and it doesn't look like it's getting better moving foreword. Trying to keep the positive vibes but goodness sakes this is sad.

It was posted earlier that they are being sent down on paper only for cap management purposes. I assume you'll see a recall tomorrow/Thursday.

 

[damacles1156]

It utterly amazes me how people think throwing prospects into big minutes they aren't ready for is somehow good for their development. You want to ruin a prospect? That's how.

People also forget the vast majority of your prospects don't see NHL ice at all. It's actually pretty rare and the really good NHL teams are able to get at least one productive roster player out of each draft.

Case in point, name me the last Kings drafted player on this roster that has played 100 NHL games and is at least a 25 point player a year.

 

[ru4reals]

Just look at the Johnson hit tonight against Vegas. He cranks a 4th liner and, immediately mind you, a young non-fighter drops the gloves to answer for it. That's what real teams do.

You saw Lias try and do it last year after Vilardi ate one late in the season. We have encouraging moments like that but they get washed away by pathetic moments like the hits on Roy, Bjornfot and now Doughty. It goes back further than that as well...really starts in that 2017 season and has only gotten worse.

Nicolas Roy goes after Jack Johnson.




Perry goes after Sam Lafferty after Ryan Mcdonagh hit. Yes freakin Corey Perry!!!




Dylan Cozens Sticks up for his teammate after getting hit from last season.




This is only a couple but every team seems to fight for each other and then there's the Kings.

LA Kings Sticks up for Bjornfot after getting smoked with an elbow from last season....Wait for it it will come. Still waiting but I'm sure someone will pay this POS back....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45ODSLDKlnQ


However this guy has the biggest set of nads on this team sadly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORsx712hwtY

 

[kingsfan]

While I don't buy into the the 'Kings won't stand up for themselves' theory at this point, if it were true, it'd be very indicative of a divided locker room. The last time we had that going on was the Sean Avery years, and we know how good we weren't then. I firmly believe cups are won on the ice but lost in the dressing room.

 

[kingsfan28]

Rommel had a plan for the Atlantic Wall, but it didn't work out.

The whole reason Bluc got their jobs was that they promised immediate contention the season after missing the playoffs in Lombardi's last season. I am with @bland on this, hope is not a plan.

Might be a first, bring Rommel into a thread.

 

[kingsfan28]

While I don't buy into the the 'Kings won't stand up for themselves' theory at this point, if it were true, it'd be very indicative of a divided locker room. The last time we had that going on was the Sean Avery years, and we know how good we weren't then. I firmly believe cups are won on the ice but lost in the dressing room.

I've seen Doughty do it the preseason when that little POS Karlsson low bridged Kopitar, and then Kempe go after the Stars player when Doughty got kneed. Nothing else comes to mind. I would like to see Blake bring in some toughness, even if it means the guys only going to play on the 4th line. Nobody's scoring there anyway.

 

[NikF]

With DL reigme the plan was clear and well communicated:
1. Lower the GA
2. Become bigger and tougher to play against
3. Build from the net out

Can anyone tell me what the Blake/Luc plan is supposed to be? My hope is that Byfield is a big enough talent and character to start taking ownership of the team relatively soon.

 

[DryIslandBartender]

With DL reigme the plan was clear and well communicated:
1. Lower the GA
2. Become bigger and tougher to play against
3. Build from the net out

Can anyone tell me what the Blake/Luc plan is supposed to be? My hope is that Byfield is a big enough talent and character to start taking ownership of the team relatively soon.

The plan is to be a soccer team according to Luc.

 

[Matt13]

When is Byfield returning from injury?

Him and Deadmarsh should be back by January.

 

[apocalypse]

His development stagnated because he had a serious back injury. Playing ten games when he was 20 had no impact on his development, especially when he produced 7 points in that 10 game stretch. Over developing prospects is highly over rated, the assumption that keeping a prospect below his skill level is the only appropriate way to develop him is wrong in my opinion. If you look at the high end talent in this league, how many of them failed to play an NHL game by their age 20 season? The only one I can think of off the top of my head is Marchand who didn't make the NHL until he was 21, but he is quite the outlier in many ways. The only other guys I can think of that kind of count are Panarin and Wheeler, but they didn't come to the NHL earlier for different reasons. I don't think giving players a taste of the NHL at a young age has any impact on development unless there are larger locker room/coaching issues.

Your thinking is what's wrong with this team.

 

[BigKing]

With DL reigme the plan was clear and well communicated:
1. Lower the GA
2. Become bigger and tougher to play against
3. Build from the net out

Can anyone tell me what the Blake/Luc plan is supposed to be? My hope is that Byfield is a big enough talent and character to start taking ownership of the team relatively soon.

My fear has always been their plan was "New NHL!!!" and a move in the opposite direction of Lombardi type players. Yes, DL needed to emphasize skill more but Blake can't ignore intangibles and character in favor of analytics all the time either.

The Lemieux trade makes me think he realized how soft these guys are but I worry about the prospect pool's collective moxie. As for the existing regulars, we know where they stand. Have like 15 Byng candidates on this team and a former winner wearing the C.

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

Can anyone tell me what the Blake/Luc plan is supposed to be?

Prospect Pool Champions, bitch!

 

[kingsfan]

I've seen Doughty do it the preseason when that little POS Karlsson low bridged Kopitar, and then Kempe go after the Stars player when Doughty got kneed. Nothing else comes to mind. I would like to see Blake bring in some toughness, even if it means the guys only going to play on the 4th line. Nobody's scoring there anyway.

If you're sticking up for one another, size doesn't matter when it comes to a response. Those guys should be like your brothers out there, if you think someone intentionally tried to hurt your brother you don't care about the size of the guy, you go at him. It's the response that matters more to your comrade, not the outcome.

With DL reigme the plan was clear and well communicated:
1. Lower the GA
2. Become bigger and tougher to play against
3. Build from the net out

Can anyone tell me what the Blake/Luc plan is supposed to be? My hope is that Byfield is a big enough talent and character to start taking ownership of the team relatively soon.

I believe Blake or Luc or someone said they wanted to get faster, saying the club was to slow to keep up in the league anymore. I didn't disagree, we were a bit of a dinosaur team, but it does feel like they overcorrected on this one a bit. Perhaps they sense it with the selection of Helenius, trade for Lemieux, etc.

 

[KINGS17]

Just look at the Johnson hit tonight against Vegas. He cranks a 4th liner and, immediately mind you, a young non-fighter drops the gloves to answer for it. That's what real teams do.

You saw Lias try and do it last year after Vilardi ate one late in the season. We have encouraging moments like that but they get washed away by pathetic moments like the hits on Roy, Bjornfot and now Doughty. It goes back further than that as well...really starts in that 2017 season and has only gotten worse.

Everyone remembers this:



The Canucks did nothing until the play stopped. Then they proceed with the face washes and Burrows going after Kopitar. The Canucks did nothing to Brown. Mitchell was out there on the ice at the time and would have taken care of business if anything serious got going. Then Richards continued to make every Vancouver player he came in contact with look like a useless clown.

That moment is when the Kings and their fans knew the Canucks were their bitch.

 

[riznat]

Everyone remembers this:



The Canucks did nothing until the play stopped. Then they proceed with the face washes and Burrows going after Kopitar. The Canucks did nothing to Brown. Mitchell was out there on the ice at the time and would have taken care of business if anything serious got going. Then Richards continued to make every Vancouver player he came in contact with look like a useless clown.

That moment is when the Kings and their fans knew the Canucks were their bitch.

god damnit I miss that team

 

[YP44]

AA fought last year if that is what people are looking for. I think he, Andersson and Lemieux will provide enough of that and I would think they are getting closer.

More I think about it the more I look at Anaheim and Mason.

 

[Schrute farms]

It also doesn't help that the Kings are so pathetic on the PP. So even if a team miraculously gets called for a roughing/etc. type penalty by the useless refs, the Kings are not making them pay for it. If you don't respond physically, then you MUST respond on the scoreboard. Problem is -- neither happens.
Friday night after DD 5 minute penalty, sure the Kings got one. But you pot 3 on that and basically put the game away.....and at least there is some concern put on teams. Currently, they know the Kings won't respond physically and there is an equally zero fear/concern scoreboard-wise from the Kings PP.

 

[YP44]

It also doesn't help that the Kings are so pathetic on the PP. So even if a team miraculously gets called for a roughing/etc. type penalty by the useless refs, the Kings are not making them pay for it. If you don't respond physically, then you MUST respond on the scoreboard. Problem is -- neither happens.
Friday night after DD 5 minute penalty, sure the Kings got one. But you pot 3 on that and basically put the game away.....and at least there is some concern put on teams. Currently, they know the Kings won't respond physically and there is an equally zero fear/concern scoreboard-wise from the Kings PP.

Kings need a true PP QB. It is why i have been after Ghost since before the flyers waived him.

The way Arizona is loading up picks maybe Maata + a pick for ghost is feasible.