2021-2022 S Blues Multi-Purpose Thread Part 3

[LetsGoBooze]

Honestly would feel better if we kept Perron and moved Tarasenko for whatever futures we coulda got. Perron and O'Rei's chemistry is electric, and woulda netted us some futures (although admittedly prolly nothing too significant), but also opened up some cap room as well. That's my only major gripe with how the offseason has played out.

 

[Ranksu]

I don’t care about Gunnarsson or Bouwmeester or Pietrangelo or any other player who is not on the team.

But you like where this team is heading? Mediocre players get overpaid and makes team worse cap- and skill wise.

 

[Ranksu]

Honestly would feel better if we kept Perron and moved Tarasenko for whatever futures we coulda got. Perron and O'Rei's chemistry is electric, and woulda netted us some futures (although admittedly prolly nothing too significant), but also opened up some cap room as well. That's my only major gripe with how the offseason has played out.

I don't like to write bad signs to wall, but how good ROR - Perron were on-ice, I can't imagine how big impact this might have to ROR when his 'go to' linemate and friend is off. Ofc players are professionals, but still losing good linemate could potentially affect why should I stay in here? Are we going to compete? I wonder how team has downgraded it has affect ROR wanting to stay in Blues or does he continue elsewhere?

 

[Prosaic]

This certainly won't be a popular opinion but I wouldn't even want the Blues to extend O'Reilly. By seasons end he'll be 32 and his game is already taking a hit from age, his offense in particular.

Given the state of the roster, how many over 30 players who will be under contract going into 2023-2024, adding another might not be the wisest decision.

 

[BlueMed]

This certainly won't be a popular opinion but I wouldn't even want the Blues to extend O'Reilly. By seasons end he'll be 32 and his game is already taking a hit from age, his offense in particular.

Given the state of the roster, how many over 30 players who will be under contract going into 2023-2024, adding another might not be the wisest decision.

I think a 2 year extension would be okay. He's a very similar player to Bergeron in a sense, and he's been aging like fine wine.

 

[Zezel’s Pretzels]

Folks, 57 wasn’t signed because Army is allocating that money to a Kyrou extension. It was a tough decision but he gets paid to make those.

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

I view extending Leddy by 4-years doesn't sound that good. Play him as top4 minutes is mindboggling. You cant just assume if Gunnar or Jbo played top4 minutes with Pietro its same we go with Leddy or Scandella with Parayko / Faulk.

Our defense still sucks and its main reason why we cant found success. If we want to pass Avs, our defense should be same or even better vs. 2019 Cup d-core.


Biggest worried is that we have lost quite good players for nothing and have replace those holes weakly or don't have replace those holes at all. You cant bleed away your best players and don't get any return.

Leddy was quite good with both Faulk and Parayko last year. He has been successful top 4 on good NYI teams. He made our D significantly better. But he isn’t Petro so some of y’all need to bitch and moan.

 

[Stupendous Yappi]

Folks, 57 wasn’t signed because Army is allocating that money to a Kyrou extension. It was a tough decision but he gets paid to make those.

That's how I see it too. That and Neighbors is penciled into the Top 9, and is going to be ready.

I saw a post speculating about Bolduc having a chance to make the team. I hadn't considered that, but if they both made it, it would make a pretty fun early part of the season to watch these guys grow.

 

[Ranksu]

Leddy was quite good with both Faulk and Parayko last year. He has been successful top 4 on good NYI teams. He made our D significantly better. But he isn’t Petro so some of y’all need to bitch and moan.

No, Parayko and Faulk aren't Pietro and quite good isn't enough. We are paying ~14mill.$ Krug, Leddy and Scandella whom can't handle top4 minutes or toughest opponent. You could get quite good player(s) with that price money tag?

 

[TK 421]

No, Parayko and Faulk aren't Pietro and quite good isn't enough. We are paying ~14mill.$ Krug, Leddy and Scandella whom can't handle top4 minutes or toughest opponent. You could get quite good player(s) with that price money tag?

I still think a possibility to upgrade one of the LD spots may come up over the course of this season but even if we didn't upgrade we never really saw what this current group could do. LD, which already wasn't ideal, got completely decimated starting in G1 vs the Wild when Leddy got concussed. Scandella was in and out.... IDK man. I feel the same way you do about how this D is constructed but I'm going to push back against the idea that we know what we have there, its yet to be determined imo.

 

[Mike Liut]

No, Parayko and Faulk aren't Pietro and quite good isn't enough. We are paying ~14mill.$ Krug, Leddy and Scandella whom can't handle top4 minutes or toughest opponent. You could get quite good player(s) with that price money tag?

I’m not sure that Petro is better than Faulk right now.

I think a 2 year extension would be okay. He's a very similar player to Bergeron in a sense, and he's been aging like fine wine.

I’d love a 2 yr deal for him. I’d do 2 @ 6 per

 

[ChicagoBlues]

Bolduc is oozing confidence. Can’t wait for Camp to start!!

 

[jmwc95]

Folks, 57 wasn’t signed because Army is allocating that money to a Kyrou extension. It was a tough decision but he gets paid to make those.

Forget Kyrou’s extension after next year. Worry about 2024-2025 next offseason. Move could have been made. We could have kept Perron had we unloaded Scandella and Barbashev. We wouldn’t have been better than last year, but we wouldn’t have taken a step back either.

 

[PeoriaBlues309]

Bolduc is oozing confidence. Can’t wait for Camp to start!!

Just saw JT’s article on him and same. I’d love for him to force his way on to the team for at least a 9 game trial.

Barring any future moves, I wouldn’t hate this as an opening night lineup at all.

Buchnevich-Thomas-Tarasenko
Saad-O’Reilly-Kyrou
Barbashev-Schenn-Bolduc
Neighbours-Acciari-Walker
Brown, Kostin/Leivo/Highmore/Frk

 

[ChicagoBlues]

Just saw JT’s article on him and same. I’d love for him to force his way on to the team for at least a 9 game trial.

Barring any future moves, I wouldn’t hate this as an opening night lineup at all.

Buchnevich-Thomas-Tarasenko
Saad-O’Reilly-Kyrou
Barbashev-Schenn-Bolduc
Neighbours-Acciari-Walker
Brown, Leivo/Highmore/Frk

Love your forward combos, as usual.

Our tweener depth is insane right now.

Jake must start on the 4th line and work his way up.

Bolduc will get his 9 games, but he will do his absolute best to stick with the Blues.

C’mon, Zach! Give DA a good problem to solve.

 

[PeoriaBlues309]

Love your forward combos, as usual.

Our tweener depth is insane right now.

Jake must start on the 4th line and work his way up.

Bolduc will get his 9 games, but he will do his absolute best to stick with the Blues.

C’mon, Zach! Give DA a good problem to solve.

Bolduc has been giving me Fabbri vibes so far. I was pretty impressed with him in the few preseason games he played last year, and figured he’d definitely have a good chance at getting a roster spot if we had an opening this fall.

If he doesn’t stay past the 9 games, I could see us rotating Brown/Frk/Kostin in a top 9 spot to see if one sticks there, and if they don’t, we upgrade at the TDL.

If he does stay on the roster for the whole year, I’m very intrigued at the idea of Neighbours-Acciari-Toropchenko as our fourth line when Torpo gets healthy. That line just sounds very, very fun to watch.

 

[Spektre]

No, Parayko and Faulk aren't Pietro and quite good isn't enough. We are paying ~14mill.$ Krug, Leddy and Scandella whom can't handle top4 minutes or toughest opponent. You could get quite good player(s) with that price money tag?

Pietro was so bad last year he was deemed the worst contract on Vegas.

We all know you still think Pietro is the same guy from the Cup run. It’s simply not the case and Faulk is a better player than Pietrangelo.

 

[ChicagoBlues]

Bolduc has been giving me Fabbri vibes so far. I was pretty impressed with him in the few preseason games he played last year, and figured he’d definitely have a good chance at getting a roster spot if we had an opening this fall.

If he doesn’t stay past the 9 games, I could see us rotating Brown/Frk/Kostin in a top 9 spot to see if one sticks there, and if they don’t, we upgrade at the TDL.

If he does stay on the roster for the whole year, I’m very intrigued at the idea of Neighbours-Acciari-Toropchenko as our fourth line when Torpo gets healthy. That line just sounds very, very fun to watch.

That 4th line will be the envy of the NHL, which is pretty much a St. Louis Blues thang.

We've had some great 4th lines over the years.

BTW, Kostin has not signed his QO.

Bolduc is working on his physical game, which is exactly what he needs to do.

 

[Ranksu]

It's laughable how multiple members here thinks Bolduc who hasn't player single game in NHL or AHL could crack in top9 spot right away. Or even talking about Neighbours who did look promising in his first stint in NHL on those 9 games could be regular at NHL level.

We know how much it could affect if you rush things for youngster. Note I really like idea give kids opportunity to play up. Bolduc or Neighbours doesn't cut anything what Perron was.

You need to be super delusional if you think missing Perron doesn't have affect.

I can guarantee our last season franchise best PP% for season will take deeeeep hit. One reason is Perron and coach mix.

 

[LetsGoBooze]

It's laughable how multiple members here thinks Bolduc who hasn't player single game in NHL or AHL could crack in top9 spot right away. Or even talking about Neighbours who did look promising in his first stint in NHL on those 9 games could be regular at NHL level.

We know how much it could affect if you rush things for youngster. Note I really like idea give kids opportunity to play up. Bolduc or Neighbours doesn't cut anything what Perron was.

You need to be super delusional if you think missing Perron doesn't have affect.

I can guarantee our last season franchise best PP% for season will take deeeeep hit. One reason is Perron and coach mix.

The talk on the forum has just been general excitement about the youngsters challenging for playing time, which is completely separate from thinking they will replace Perron's production. And yes i think 99.9% of people agree we will take a step back on our PP this season. After all, last year was an all-time record for the Blues, teams typically have a hard time repeating that multiple years in a row.

 

[BlueDream]

It's laughable how multiple members here thinks Bolduc who hasn't player single game in NHL or AHL could crack in top9 spot right away. Or even talking about Neighbours who did look promising in his first stint in NHL on those 9 games could be regular at NHL level.

We know how much it could affect if you rush things for youngster. Note I really like idea give kids opportunity to play up. Bolduc or Neighbours doesn't cut anything what Perron was.

You need to be super delusional if you think missing Perron doesn't have affect.

I can guarantee our last season franchise best PP% for season will take deeeeep hit. One reason is Perron and coach mix.

Young prospects crack top 9 spots around the league every year. Fabbri and Thomas did it at Bolduc’s age, as the most recent Blues examples.

Are they going to fully replace Perron’s production? No. But it’s not crazy at all to expect one of Neighbours or Bolduc to grab a 3rd line spot this year and never look back.

 

[Thallis]

According to JR our Tkachuk package was "Tarasenko, Scandella, and a high draft pick." That's not really a serious package.

 

[Reality Czech]

According to JR our Tkachuk package was "Tarasenko, Scandella, and a high draft pick." That's not really a serious package.

As I mentioned in the "Army must go" thread, he seems like the kind of guy who will throw out lowball offers and hope to get lucky. It may not work most of the time, but he has also acquired guys like ROR and Bouwmeester for less-than-impressive packages. Not surprising that offer wasn't enough, if the information is accurate, and I wonder if Vladi would have been willing to go to Calgary, at least temporarily. My gut says no but who knows?

 

[TK 421]

According to JR our Tkachuk package was "Tarasenko, Scandella, and a high draft pick." That's not really a serious package.

The reality of our cap situation dictated that offer had to be close to cap neutral. What would you have offered?

 

[PJJJP]

According to JR our Tkachuk package was "Tarasenko, Scandella, and a high draft pick." That's not really a serious package.

Did JR also say we offered Kyrou, Krug, and a 1st?