Management 2020 Off-Season Proposals , trade, sign, kick to curb IV

[Sheppy]

Soft????
I love the way he plays, two way Center that takes the body and clutch in the playoffs.

Adam Henrique Bio

The son of a tobacco and ginseng farmer, Henrique was selected by the New Jersey Devils in the third round (No. 82) of the 2008 NHL Draft. He joined the Devils at the start of the 2011-12 season after four seasons with Windsor of the Ontario Hockey League.
After finishing with 51 points (16 goals, 35 assists), most among NHL rookies behind Gabriel Landeskog and Ryan Nugent-Hopkins (52 each), Henrique had 13 points (five goals, eight assists) during New Jersey's run to the 2012 Stanley Cup Final. Two of the five goals came in overtime and were series-clinchers. He scored 3:47 into the second overtime of Game 7 in the opening round to eliminate the Florida Panthers, and his goal 1:03 into overtime of Game 6 in the Eastern Conference Final against the New York Rangers sent the Devils into the Stanley Cup Final.
The goal against Florida made him the second rookie in NHL history to score in overtime of a Game 7, joining Claude Lemieux of the 1986 Montreal Canadiens. The goal against the Rangers put Henrique into the NHL record books as the first rookie to score two series-clinching overtime goals in the same playoff season. He also had three game-winners, matching the record set by Montreal's Jacques Lemaire in 1968 and tied by Lemieux in 1986.
Henrique also led the Devils and was third in the NHL at plus-12 during the 2012 Stanley Cup Playoffs. He was one of three Devils to finish with a plus rating in each of the four playoff rounds.
After struggling during the 2012-13 season, Henrique bounced back by scoring 25 goals and 43 points in 2013-14. He became a 30-goal scorer for the first time in 2015-16.
Henrique and Taylor Hall were teammates in the OHL, helping Windsor to win back-to-back Memorial Cup championship titles in 2009 and 2010. They were reunited when the Devils acquired Hall from the Edmonton Oilers on June 29, 2016.
Henrique was acquired by the Ducks in a trade for defenseman Sami Vatanen on Nov. 30, 2017 and made his Ducks debut the next night.
NOTES & TRANSACTIONS

• OHL Playoff MVP (2010)
• NHL All-Rookie Team (2012)

The lineup is terribly soft. They're not winning with anything like that.

 

[PlayMakers]

Sweeney said he wanted to add talent/scoring to the 4th line. Would have been really nice to grab him and have a guy that could move up in case of injury

When did Sweeney say he wanted to add scoring to the 4th line? I must have missed that comment.

 

[Don Cherry]

When did Sweeney say he wanted to add scoring to the 4th line? I must have missed that comment.

I wondered that too.

 

[BigGoalBrad]

I couldn’t care less if/when JDB gets signed. If they plan to trade him for a top 4 LD, great. If instead they plan to bring him back and stick him next to Krejci, where both those guys can get screwed as a result, then let it run its course and hopefully get him on the cheapest deal possible because he won’t be worth a high-priced one.

He does not fit where it seems he’s likely to go, so it’s really hard to get worked up about his unsigned status, IMO.

20 goals a year on his ELC isn’t not fitting.

Unless you need more speed and grit and he should be like Senyshyn?

 

[PlayMakers]

NBC SPORTS BOSTON: DJ Bean wonders if the Bruins intend to trade Jake DeBrusk...

If they could get a LD for DeBrusk, what do your lines look like?

Marsh - Bergy - Pastrnak
Kase - Krejci - Smith
Bjork - Coyle - Studnicka

OR

Marsh - Bergy - Pastrnak
Kase - Krejci - Studnicka
Bjork - Coyle - Smith

Something else?

 

[Bearcrap]

When did Sweeney say he wanted to add scoring to the 4th line? I must have missed that comment.

Ya like that would make sense....adding more scoring to the fourth line and not the second.

 

[Don Cherry]

If they could get a LD for DeBrusk, what do your lines look like?

Marsh - Bergy - Pastrnak
Kase - Krejci - Smith
Bjork - Coyle - Studnicka

OR

Marsh - Bergy - Pastrnak
Kase - Krejci - Studnicka
Bjork - Coyle - Smith

Something else?

None of my lines would include Bjork. Why do people insist on having him in their lineups? What am I missing? All I see is another soft forward. We have already cornered the market. More than one trade is needed to bring in some much-needed toughness. Toughness that needs to be able to play.
I'd rather have Ritchie than Bjork and I'm talking about Lionel.

 

[BruinDust]

Was thinking of the following possible trade that would help ( short to mid term) both teams.
To Anahiem
Stud
Vaak
Debrusk
Moore

To B's
Henrique
Lindholm

It hurts giving up Stud, however, I think Henrique would fit in nice with us as third line Center this year, with CC moving to the wing. He won 55% of his draws last year is very consistent scoring 23-25 goals a year.
Lindholm is their best dee can play some big minutes and gives us the size we need and he shots left.
We would lose around 2.6 M in cap, assuming JDB gets 4M a year, this would give us the flexibility to sign a Granland to fill his void at LW.

Perfection Line
Granland Krejci Smith
Bjork

Let's face facts here, Henrique approaching age 31 at 5 million per for the next 4 years is basically a cap dump. So is John Moore for that matter.

So really your talking Studnicka, Debrusk, and Vaakanainen for Lindholm.

Value wise, that's pretty fair. A young NHL proven player (Debrusk) + an A-level prospect (Studnicka) and a B-level prospect (Vaak).

Problem as I see it is your risking Boston's ONLY center prospect with close to sure-fire chance at being a Top 2 line C. And please, don't say Beecher, that guy is a long-term project. And risking it for a D-man who will be a UFA in two seasons at age 28 and could easily walk. I'm not sure I'd even want to give Lindholm a long-term deal at that age. And if the Bruins are in the decline by then (quite possible) he could head for the hills that summer.

I'd make the argument that Studnicka right now is the 3rd most important under-25 player in the organization right now (behind McAvoy and Pasta), which says as much about the lack of top-end under-25 talent the Bruins have right now. They are loaded with quantity, but where's the quality?

 

[BruinDust]

Would anyone do?

Debrusk + Moore

for

OEL

No salary retained.

Assumptions you can possibly make if this deal went down is

1) Chara isn't re-signed

2) Gryz is exposed and taken by Seattle

Strengthens the D for this year and sets it up pretty good for 2021-22 as well (OEL, McAvoy, Carlo, Lauzon, Zboril, Vaak, Clifton).

Downside is it weakens the LW position next year and moving forward. Leaves you with just Bjork and Ritchie basically behind Marchand on LW next year.

I'm not saying I'd make the deal, just interested to see what people think.

 

[smack66]

Would anyone do?

Debrusk + Moore

for

OEL

No salary retained.

Assumptions you can possibly make if this deal went down is

1) Chara isn't re-signed

2) Gryz is exposed and taken by Seattle

Strengthens the D for this year and sets it up pretty good for 2021-22 as well (OEL, McAvoy, Carlo, Lauzon, Zboril, Vaak, Clifton).

Downside is it weakens the LW position next year and moving forward. Leaves you with just Bjork and Ritchie basically behind Marchand on LW next year.

I'm not saying I'd make the deal, just interested to see what people think.

I think it leaves far to big a hole on our already weak LW depth.

 

[PlayMakers]

None of my lines would include Bjork. Why do people insist on having him in their lineups? What am I missing? All I see is another soft forward. We have already cornered the market. More than one trade is needed to bring in some much-needed toughness. Toughness that needs to be able to play.
I'd rather have Ritchie than Bjork and I'm talking about Lionel.

I need to know if Bjork can take the next step. He does so much well, he creates scoring chances, he defends well, plays with speed and energy, he's a good puck handler and is good on zone entries.

His game right now reminds me of Reilly Smith's game his last year in Dallas. Their fans said he did everything but score, and if he ever figures that out he's going to be a good one. Well, he figured it out.

 

[veganbruin]

Would anyone do?

Debrusk + Moore

for

OEL

No salary retained.

Assumptions you can possibly make if this deal went down is

1) Chara isn't re-signed

2) Gryz is exposed and taken by Seattle

Strengthens the D for this year and sets it up pretty good for 2021-22 as well (OEL, McAvoy, Carlo, Lauzon, Zboril, Vaak, Clifton).

Downside is it weakens the LW position next year and moving forward. Leaves you with just Bjork and Ritchie basically behind Marchand on LW next year.

I'm not saying I'd make the deal, just interested to see what people think.

No I don’t DeBrusk + Gryz + Chara make this team better for less money than OEL.

 

[PlayMakers]

Would anyone do?

Debrusk + Moore

for

OEL

No salary retained.

Assumptions you can possibly make if this deal went down is

1) Chara isn't re-signed

2) Gryz is exposed and taken by Seattle

Strengthens the D for this year and sets it up pretty good for 2021-22 as well (OEL, McAvoy, Carlo, Lauzon, Zboril, Vaak, Clifton).

Downside is it weakens the LW position next year and moving forward. Leaves you with just Bjork and Ritchie basically behind Marchand on LW next year.

I'm not saying I'd make the deal, just interested to see what people think.

I like it for this year but the added cost of losing Gryz makes it too steep for me. If they protect 8FD instead of 7/3, they could protect 4D, but then they'd have to expose (and lose one of) Smith, Kase, Bjork or Frederic. Depending on how this season goes, that could be painful.

 

[veganbruin]

Also Bertuzzi got 3.5 in arbitration I imagine that’s fairly comparable to JDB. Not that’s he’s in arb but he might even get less.

 

[BruinDust]

I think it leaves far to big a hole on our already weak LW depth.

No I don’t DeBrusk + Gryz + Chara make this team better for less money than OEL.

I like it for this year but the added cost of losing Gryz makes it too steep for me. If they protect 8FD instead of 7/3, they could protect 4D, but then they'd have to expose (and lose one of) Smith, Kase, Bjork or Frederic. Depending on how this season goes, that could be painful.

Thanks for the responses. All very valid points. I don't think I'd make that move either. The kicker is your essentially adding Gryz (or another good player) to the deal as protecting OEL means someone else (could be a D, could be a F) is going to Seattle.

I'll toss this out there. I'm not sure how it works but so I could be wrong (anyone who knows for sure feel free to let us know), but let's just assume OEL by waiving his NMC to go to Boston voids the NMC clause in his contract, so know you don't have to protect him. So let's say instead they protect Gryz and expose OEL.

If Seattle takes OEL, it essentially becomes the same as if you exposed Debrusk. Oh and you shed Moore's contract to boot. And you basically rented OEL for a year.

If Seattle doesn't take OEL, you still lose a good player elsewhere, but you still get to keep Gryz as he'd be likely be the 3rd D protected.

Food for thought.

 

[Pia8988]

Thanks for the responses. All very valid points. I don't think I'd make that move either. The kicker is your essentially adding Gryz (or another good player) to the deal as protecting OEL means someone else (could be a D, could be a F) is going to Seattle.

I'll toss this out there. I'm not sure how it works but so I could be wrong (anyone who knows for sure feel free to let us know), but let's just assume OEL by waiving his NMC to go to Boston voids the NMC clause in his contract, so know you don't have to protect him. So let's say instead they protect Gryz and expose OEL.

If Seattle takes OEL, it essentially becomes the same as if you exposed Debrusk. Oh and you shed Moore's contract to boot. And you basically rented OEL for a year.

If Seattle doesn't take OEL, you still lose a good player elsewhere, but you still get to keep Gryz as he'd be likely be the 3rd D protected.

Food for thought.

NMCs are no longer voided on trades now.

 

[BruinDust]

NMCs are no longer voided on trades now.

Thanks for the clarification.

Did that change with the new CBA? Or was it always like that?

 

[dredeye]

Does no one else have interest in Perry on a one year deal? I wouldn’t mind him banging around for a year

 

[Pia8988]

Thanks for the clarification.

Did that change with the new CBA? Or was it always like that?

Part of the new deal they just made.

 

[CDJ]

Does no one else have interest in Perry on a one year deal? I wouldn’t mind him banging around for a year

guys a warrior, if they intend on winning I don’t mind bringing him in to play in the bottom 6. They seemingly have a logjam there as is already though

 

[elMatador]

I need to know if Bjork can take the next step. He does so much well, he creates scoring chances, he defends well, plays with speed and energy, he's a good puck handler and is good on zone entries.

His game right now reminds me of Reilly Smith's game his last year in Dallas. Their fans said he did everything but score, and if he ever figures that out he's going to be a good one. Well, he figured it out.

I don't see it with Bjork. I don't know if he lacks the confidence or it's those 2 shoulder surgeries but day 1 the last training camp everybody was hyped about how Bjork came ready to play. The same again before the bubble tournament. As the games in the bubble went on he started to disappear and by the Carolina series he was a nonfactor.

 

[Dizzay]

Perry is a RW, not a lot of space there unless we're trading Kase.
If we could sign Perry for 1 million and trade Kase and attach Moore that'd be a cap savings of 4.3 million dollars.
In my mind, you can re-sign Debrusk + Hoffman(5 million) + Perry and we lose Kase and Moore...........

Marshy-Bergy-Pasta
Hoffman-Krejci-Smith
Debrusk-Coyle-Perry
Ritchie-Kuraly-Wagner
Bjork

That's a solid forward group

 

[KrejciMVP]

I would have been ok with the Bruins taking a flyer on Galchenyuk with that contract he signed in Ottawa

 

[Blowfish]

If they could get a LD for DeBrusk, what do your lines look like?

Marsh - Bergy - Pastrnak
Kase - Krejci - Smith
Bjork - Coyle - Studnicka

OR

Marsh - Bergy - Pastrnak
Kase - Krejci - Studnicka
Bjork - Coyle - Smith

Something else?

I'm good with either but part of me wants to see some key bruins take longer to recuperate (not too long lol).

Bjork - Bergy - Smith
Kase - Krejci - Studnicka
Lauko - Coyle - ZachS

Give Bjork chance to gain some confidence and let's see what the kids can add...I don't want to see the 4th line players moving up...

 

[Don Cherry]

I would try to make another deal with the Wild seeing as it's the only team Sweeney has ever made a real trade with.
Dumba, Foligno and Hartman would be worth looking into. I do have to wonder why Mike Hartman is on his fourth of fifth team in like four years though.