Management 2020 Off-Season Proposals , trade, sign, kick to curb IV

[Blowfish]

NBC SPORTS BOSTON: DJ Bean wonders if the Bruins intend to trade Jake DeBrusk. The 24-year-old winger is a restricted free agent who averaged 20 goals per season over the course of his entry-level contract. He’s also surfaced in recent trade rumors.

ade chips if they were serious about making a big splash this offseason, “but perhaps they aren’t.” If not, he ponders how much the winger should get on his next contract and for how long. Bean suggested something around $4 million annually on a short-term deal.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Bean also acknowledged the flattened salary cap could explain why the Bruins haven’t signed DeBrusk yet. They could still make that big offseason move or perhaps wait until training camp/preseason to make that splash with the young winger as the centerpiece. Otherwise, a two-year contract worth $4 million annually for DeBrusk seems the most likely route.

 

[Gordoff]

I see that side as well.

The only problem/concern I have with it is this:

If they don't go all in for the next 2 years they might as well just sell off Krejci, Bergeron, Rask and maybe even Marchand now. The bigger issue with that plan is two fold. First, if that was the plan, I think it would already be in motion. Because it hasn't been started, it seems like their best bet now is to roll the dice and try to win it all soon.

Second, with the financial uncertainty a lot of teams have due to Covid, I'm not sure what they can get in return for those players would be good enough to spur a rebuild.

There aren't a lot of teams that I can think of that have the space to take on 6+ million dollar contracts and have and would be willing to give the assets to make trading them worthwhile.

This management group doing anything that inspires confidence right now is worrisome.
Furthermore, the idea of them selling off this core and making the right decisions in pro player appraisal and/or draft decisions with high draft picks is not something that I trust them to do properly.
I would fully expect them to throw away the assets gained and IMO put the team in a 5-10 year funk.
If they do clean out the old guard that makes McAvoy and Pasta the new role models/leaders and IMO there's no way that they're ready for that yet.
Change needs to start at the top, Neely and Sweeney. Neely should be gone, sorry but it's time for a clearer vision, Sweeney should be retained for contract negotiations and those sorts of duties but player appraisal (besides defensemen) is very suspect.

 

[Oates2Neely]

Thought this was funny.

 

[Dr Hook]

NBC SPORTS BOSTON: DJ Bean wonders if the Bruins intend to trade Jake DeBrusk. The 24-year-old winger is a restricted free agent who averaged 20 goals per season over the course of his entry-level contract. He’s also surfaced in recent trade rumors.

ade chips if they were serious about making a big splash this offseason, “but perhaps they aren’t.” If not, he ponders how much the winger should get on his next contract and for how long. Bean suggested something around $4 million annually on a short-term deal.

SPECTOR’S NOTE: Bean also acknowledged the flattened salary cap could explain why the Bruins haven’t signed DeBrusk yet. They could still make that big offseason move or perhaps wait until training camp/preseason to make that splash with the young winger as the centerpiece. Otherwise, a two-year contract worth $4 million annually for DeBrusk seems the most likely route.

It really does make you wonder. I am assuming (maybe wrongly ) that Jake is asking for a pretty hefty contract and the two sides are too far apart for anything to get done right now. Sweeney may well be a hardball negotiator, but if you look at what agreement he came to with Carlo, McAvoy, and Grz as examples of RFA contracts, he's been fair. The team has space to sign him if they had a "landing spot" but clearly they don't or it would have been done by now. Even if they are considering trading him, a sign and trade should not be off the table.

 

[yazmybaby]

It really does make you wonder. I am assuming (maybe wrongly ) that Jake is asking for a pretty hefty contract and the two sides are too far apart for anything to get done right now. Sweeney may well be a hardball negotiator, but if you look at what agreement he came to with Carlo, McAvoy, and Grz as examples of RFA contracts, he's been fair. The team has space to sign him if they had a "landing spot" but clearly they don't or it would have been done by now. Even if they are considering trading him, a sign and trade should not be off the table.

I agree with you.
I wonder what his trade value is now?
Is it more if we trade him now, or wait till we sign him?
Rumors at the draft citied the Bruins asking for a first rounder for him and there were no takers.

 

[Dr Hook]

I agree with you.
I wonder what his trade value is now?
Is it more if we trade him now, or wait till we sign him?
Rumors at the draft citied the Bruins asking for a first rounder for him and there were no takers.

Given the lack of movement for some high profile FAs, or cheap deals that we've seen, I can't imagine his trade value is very high. Other GMs interested in him would probably be aware of what his likely contract demands are and that might preclude anyone for trading for him right now. That may be why no one wanted to trade for him at the draft. No way the Bruins should pay him at around what Coyle makes and probably no other team wants to do that either. Jake could well find himself sitting out next season.

 

[EvilDead]

Thought this was funny.
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what a burn lol

 

[EvilDead]

Why won't the Bruins take a gamble on a player like Anthony Duclair? Guy had a pretty good season. Just do something for Christ sakes.

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

Why won't the Bruins take a gamble on a player like Anthony Duclair? Guy had a pretty good season. Just do something for Christ sakes.

I heard Duclair, earlier in off-season was representing himself and had a fairly ridiculous asking price (which why he was not tendered a qualifier by Ottawa). Maybe things have settled down and a bit of realization has hit him, but he was pricing himself off many teams with his original ask (heard somewhere around the 4+ - 5M). Obviously that can be different as of now. Maybe it'll be sobering for him. OR he'll get an actual agent to do his work for him again.

I'm open to getting Duclair, especially on a shorter term deal. The bigger question will be if he's put his pricetag back at a place that people will make him a real offer.

 

[DominicT]

I fully expect everything in the NHL to be quiet until all the arbitration cases are heard/settled.

Then we'll see how many teams are in real trouble. Could be anywhere between 14 and 16 that will need to move out cap $$.

They'll need a couple of weeks to get their ducks in a row, so I think we are looking at late November before we see action pick up. Or they could wait until training camp.

 

[BigGoalBrad]

I agree with you.
I wonder what his trade value is now?
Is it more if we trade him now, or wait till we sign him?
Rumors at the draft citied the Bruins asking for a first rounder for him and there were no takers.

Would have been a terrible trade for us.

Who the hell would we take that we could pencil in for 20 goals the next 3 years on an ELC?

I understand why we are playing hardball this is the kind of guy you could see missing games during a normal year because the two sides aren't close enough.

 

[UConn126]

On the DeBrusk contract, we gotta remember that it took until basically the day before training camp for Pasta to sign an extension. For these kids without arbitration rights, the holdout is the only real negotiating tactic they have. No side really gains anything by rushing the signing. DeBrusk will re-sign and I have every expectation that it will be a friendly deal.

 

[bp13]

I couldn’t care less if/when JDB gets signed. If they plan to trade him for a top 4 LD, great. If instead they plan to bring him back and stick him next to Krejci, where both those guys can get screwed as a result, then let it run its course and hopefully get him on the cheapest deal possible because he won’t be worth a high-priced one.

He does not fit where it seems he’s likely to go, so it’s really hard to get worked up about his unsigned status, IMO.

 

[UncleRico]

Sweeney said he wanted to add talent/scoring to the 4th line. Would have been really nice to grab him and have a guy that could move up in case of injury

 

[Blowfish]

I fully expect everything in the NHL to be quiet until all the arbitration cases are heard/settled.

Then we'll see how many teams are in real trouble. Could be anywhere between 14 and 16 that will need to move out cap $$.

They'll need a couple of weeks to get their ducks in a row, so I think we are looking at late November before we see action pick up. Or they could wait until training camp.

Well that's no fun.

 

[yazmybaby]

Sweeney said he wanted to add talent/scoring to the 4th line. Would have been really nice to grab him and have a guy that could move up in case of injury

I have always like AG, if we could grab him for a 1-1.5M deal for one year, I would be all over this.
I may even sign him for two years, since Kuraly and DK's contracts are up next year and he can play C as well as wing.

 

[yazmybaby]

Was thinking of the following possible trade that would help ( short to mid term) both teams.
To Anahiem
Stud
Vaak
Debrusk
Moore

To B's
Henrique
Lindholm

It hurts giving up Stud, however, I think Henrique would fit in nice with us as third line Center this year, with CC moving to the wing. He won 55% of his draws last year is very consistent scoring 23-25 goals a year.
Lindholm is their best dee can play some big minutes and gives us the size we need and he shots left.
We would lose around 2.6 M in cap, assuming JDB gets 4M a year, this would give us the flexibility to sign a Granland to fill his void at LW.

Perfection Line
Granland Krejci Smith
Bjork

 

[yazmybaby]

Perfection Line
Granland Krejci Smith
Bjork Henrique Coyle
Wagner Kuraly Kase​

 

[bbfan419]

Was thinking of the following possible trade that would help ( short to mid term) both teams.
To Anahiem
Stud
Vaak
Debrusk
Moore

To B's
Henrique
Lindholm

It hurts giving up Stud, however, I think Henrique would fit in nice with us as third line Center this year, with CC moving to the wing. He won 55% of his draws last year is very consistent scoring 23-25 goals a year.
Lindholm is their best dee can play some big minutes and gives us the size we need and he shots left.
We would lose around 2.6 M in cap, assuming JDB gets 4M a year, this would give us the flexibility to sign a Granland to fill his void at LW.

Perfection Line
Granland Krejci Smith
Bjork

Not a fan of Henrique at all.

 

[yazmybaby]

Not a fan of Henrique at all.

What don't you like about his game?

 

[yazmybaby]

Sens just signed AG for 1.05M, what a signing.

 

[Sheppy]

Perfection Line
Granland Krejci Smith
Bjork Henrique Coyle
Wagner Kuraly Kase​

Sooooooffffftttttt

 

[Mione134]

Sooooooffffftttttt

10 Ply

 

[yazmybaby]

Sooooooffffftttttt

Soft????
I love the way he plays, two way Center that takes the body and clutch in the playoffs.

Adam Henrique Bio

The son of a tobacco and ginseng farmer, Henrique was selected by the New Jersey Devils in the third round (No. 82) of the 2008 NHL Draft. He joined the Devils at the start of the 2011-12 season after four seasons with Windsor of the Ontario Hockey League.
After finishing with 51 points (16 goals, 35 assists), most among NHL rookies behind Gabriel Landeskog and Ryan Nugent-Hopkins (52 each), Henrique had 13 points (five goals, eight assists) during New Jersey's run to the 2012 Stanley Cup Final. Two of the five goals came in overtime and were series-clinchers. He scored 3:47 into the second overtime of Game 7 in the opening round to eliminate the Florida Panthers, and his goal 1:03 into overtime of Game 6 in the Eastern Conference Final against the New York Rangers sent the Devils into the Stanley Cup Final.
The goal against Florida made him the second rookie in NHL history to score in overtime of a Game 7, joining Claude Lemieux of the 1986 Montreal Canadiens. The goal against the Rangers put Henrique into the NHL record books as the first rookie to score two series-clinching overtime goals in the same playoff season. He also had three game-winners, matching the record set by Montreal's Jacques Lemaire in 1968 and tied by Lemieux in 1986.
Henrique also led the Devils and was third in the NHL at plus-12 during the 2012 Stanley Cup Playoffs. He was one of three Devils to finish with a plus rating in each of the four playoff rounds.
After struggling during the 2012-13 season, Henrique bounced back by scoring 25 goals and 43 points in 2013-14. He became a 30-goal scorer for the first time in 2015-16.
Henrique and Taylor Hall were teammates in the OHL, helping Windsor to win back-to-back Memorial Cup championship titles in 2009 and 2010. They were reunited when the Devils acquired Hall from the Edmonton Oilers on June 29, 2016.
Henrique was acquired by the Ducks in a trade for defenseman Sami Vatanen on Nov. 30, 2017 and made his Ducks debut the next night.
NOTES & TRANSACTIONS

• OHL Playoff MVP (2010)
• NHL All-Rookie Team (2012)

 

[bbfan419]

What don't you like about his game?

Makes too much money and just sort of meh for me. I would take Rakell though.