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He has a limited NMC of 10 teams. I highly doubt the Bruins were on it. Even if they were, you place your best deal on the table and let Schmidt publicly block the trade.
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He has a limited NMC of 10 teams. I highly doubt the Bruins were on it. Even if they were, you place your best deal on the table and let Schmidt publicly block the trade.
ChargersRookie
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Maybe there is 5-6 to choose from but it will be to the Bruins terms.
Sami Vatanen
Carl Soderberg
Evgeni Dadonov (remember he is Russian they seem to have a limited live span in Boston)
Andreas Athanasiou
Erik Haula
Anthony Duclair
Bruins are more likely signing a
Michael Frolik
Devin Shore
Trevor Lewis
Melker Karlsson
Matt Nieto
Ben Hutton
Drake Caggiula
type of management team. Sadly they will sign 2 or nothing.
Sami Vatanen
Carl Soderberg
Evgeni Dadonov (remember he is Russian they seem to have a limited live span in Boston)
Andreas Athanasiou
Erik Haula
Anthony Duclair
Bruins are more likely signing a
Michael Frolik
Devin Shore
Trevor Lewis
Melker Karlsson
Matt Nieto
Ben Hutton
Drake Caggiula
type of management team. Sadly they will sign 2 or nothing.
I think among forwards, Duclair brings the best bang for your buck combo, especially when factoring in age and future potential.
But a huge red flag to me is that this will be his 6th NHL team in 7 years. What's going on there? Why aren't teams investing into this kid, who clearly has talent? He does seem to run hot and cold, a lot like Reilly Smith use to, where he's good one year and then follows it up with an off year statistically.
But a huge red flag to me is that this will be his 6th NHL team in 7 years. What's going on there? Why aren't teams investing into this kid, who clearly has talent? He does seem to run hot and cold, a lot like Reilly Smith use to, where he's good one year and then follows it up with an off year statistically.
Deuce17
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I can’t take any lineup with Seny anywhere near it the least bit seriously. There’s like 6-7 Providence guys safely ahead of him. Again first round pick means nothing when filling out the big roster...the best guys play. As bad as Par Lindholm is he’s soooo much better than Zach Senyshen could ever dream of being
Smitty93
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Paying players coming off career years is always a scary idea to me. I also don't like when an inconsistent player has his best years on bad teams. Clearly, based on his team movement, he's someone teams want to rent, not buy.
I'd fairly easily take Hoffman, Dadonov, and even Granlund over him.
Greek_physique
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IMO, you want to give yourself options this year. Duclair just doesn't do that for me...at all.
Hoffman, while he comes in with question marks, you at least know what to expect...somewhere between 20-3o goals per year, that can also move up to the top line or play key minutes on the 2nd PP unit.
If you are able to bring in Hoffman on a reasonable contract, that allows you to now have a solid 3rd line with Debrusk | Coyle | Smith, which we haven't had since the days of Michael Ryder.
Start Stud on your 4th line and then he can eventually move up the 3rd or 2nd line by the end of the year, similar to what Marchand did. I hate putting our rookies in positions to fail.
To address our LD, I'd go after Martinez...he would be your stay at home dman that would allow McAvoy to take on a more offensive approach.
Marchand Bergie Pasta
Hoffman DK Kase
Debrusk Coyle Smith
Kuraly Stud Wagner
Martinez McAvoy
Gryz Carlo
Chara Lauzon
PlayMakers
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Unfortunately, that's just not true. Draft picks and politics play a huge role in who makes the big club, especially with this regime.
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I think Plan A was to sign Hall and trade DeBrusk for a defenseman. That's why they didn't get too serious about OEL. They needed to wait to see what Hall did. I also think they signed Smith with the idea of having a Hall - Krejci - Smith second line. Two playmakers (and play drivers) in Hall & Krejci and a shooter who can get inside in Smith. It would have been a good line. Unfortunately, Sweeney underestimated Hall's greed vs his desire to win. The Bruins thought they could get him with a lowball offer and it backfired. To be fair, Colorado also offered him $6m so they B's weren't alone in thinking they could get Hall on a team friendly deal. Regardless, plan A has failed.
So what's plan B? Are they going to try to find someone else who can be a playmaker and play driver to play with Krejci and Smith? Rumors are they've contacted Dadonov, but he's going to turn 33 this year. Do we really want to get older? Granlund is another playmaking winger who could mesh well with Krech. He's 28 and has two near 70 point seasons under his belt. Have there been any rumors about him?
Plan C could be Mike Hoffman. 30 goals, 60 points. He's not a passer so IMO they'd have to re-think their 2nd line. If Hoffman was going to be Krejci's LW I think the line would work better with someone like Kase over Smith. Again, giving Krejci guys who like to pass and create as a unit as opposed to individually. The downside there is that while the 2nd line gets better, they still don't have someone who gets inside, which I think is a big priority for the front office. And there's the off-ice baggage that comes with Hoffman, which could also scare them away. At this point, they may be thinking they'd be better off just giving DeBrusk another chance at 2LW, hoping the trade rumors scared him enough to get more serious about showing up every night.
Which leads me to Plan D, as in defense. Without DeBrusk as the primary trade chip, their ability to deal for someone to replace Chara has probably vanished. They never closed the door on Z and this is why. He's their safety net. But without significantly upgrading the forwards they're probably going to get back into the OEL conversation. I'm not sure how much leverage they will have in that conversation after blowing them off the first time around, but if you look at what cap dumps are being traded for, this really shouldn't be that hard of a deal to complete.
At the end of the day, I think the forwards are marginally improved with the addition of Smith and the defense is marginally improved with OEL replacing Krug. I'm not sure about the spirit and drive of the group though, last year's team was on a mission. This year's team wasn't even sure they wanted to keep their captain. Krug was beloved and let go. DeBrusk is well liked and they considered moving him. Rask must be feeling the heat from Neely's stare...
Marsh - Bergy - Pasta
DeBrusk - Krejci - Kase
Bjork - Coyle - Smith
Kuraly - Lindholm - Wags
Chara - McAvoy
OEL - Carlo
Gryz - Miller
Which leaves a long list of guys who should either be in our lineup or have value around the league: Studnicka, Frederic, Kuhlman, Lauzon, Clifton. As well as some guys that provide depth as healthy scratch: Moore, Zboril and possibly Sensyshyn (because he's waiver ineligible).
So what's plan B? Are they going to try to find someone else who can be a playmaker and play driver to play with Krejci and Smith? Rumors are they've contacted Dadonov, but he's going to turn 33 this year. Do we really want to get older? Granlund is another playmaking winger who could mesh well with Krech. He's 28 and has two near 70 point seasons under his belt. Have there been any rumors about him?
Plan C could be Mike Hoffman. 30 goals, 60 points. He's not a passer so IMO they'd have to re-think their 2nd line. If Hoffman was going to be Krejci's LW I think the line would work better with someone like Kase over Smith. Again, giving Krejci guys who like to pass and create as a unit as opposed to individually. The downside there is that while the 2nd line gets better, they still don't have someone who gets inside, which I think is a big priority for the front office. And there's the off-ice baggage that comes with Hoffman, which could also scare them away. At this point, they may be thinking they'd be better off just giving DeBrusk another chance at 2LW, hoping the trade rumors scared him enough to get more serious about showing up every night.
Which leads me to Plan D, as in defense. Without DeBrusk as the primary trade chip, their ability to deal for someone to replace Chara has probably vanished. They never closed the door on Z and this is why. He's their safety net. But without significantly upgrading the forwards they're probably going to get back into the OEL conversation. I'm not sure how much leverage they will have in that conversation after blowing them off the first time around, but if you look at what cap dumps are being traded for, this really shouldn't be that hard of a deal to complete.
At the end of the day, I think the forwards are marginally improved with the addition of Smith and the defense is marginally improved with OEL replacing Krug. I'm not sure about the spirit and drive of the group though, last year's team was on a mission. This year's team wasn't even sure they wanted to keep their captain. Krug was beloved and let go. DeBrusk is well liked and they considered moving him. Rask must be feeling the heat from Neely's stare...
Marsh - Bergy - Pasta
DeBrusk - Krejci - Kase
Bjork - Coyle - Smith
Kuraly - Lindholm - Wags
Chara - McAvoy
OEL - Carlo
Gryz - Miller
Which leaves a long list of guys who should either be in our lineup or have value around the league: Studnicka, Frederic, Kuhlman, Lauzon, Clifton. As well as some guys that provide depth as healthy scratch: Moore, Zboril and possibly Sensyshyn (because he's waiver ineligible).
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Sami Niku, few years back, 50+ pts in teh AHL. Skates like the wind. not sure why he hasnt worked in winnipeg. but this guy has the potential to be a 40 pts NHL dman.
Kuhlman for Niku. RFA for RFA.
Kuhlman for Niku. RFA for RFA.
Deuce17
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Chara simply cannot be deployed in a first pairing D any longer, in my opinion - though the entirety of your post is really well thought out.
Yes, that was my only quibble as well. If he was not good enough for the team to re-sign right out of the gate (but there is the Kevan Miller head scratcher for sure so who the hell knows) then why is he suddenly good enough as an "oh shit, our plan blew up" option and goes right back on the top pairing? It makes no sense. If he is the best they can do for 20 minutes a night, then they may as well give that job to one of the young guys and let it be what it will be.
Does this team have an internal cap or not? If we had real journalists in Boston, we would know the answer to this question.
yes, this is an internal cap. My guess is the need to get rid of some of their 3rd line players..IE Bjork, Ritchie, Moore..etc coz no one wants them. If they could, I believe they would go after Hoffman for 3 yrs at $5 or 6 per. This is what is killing them along with DN losing bunches of $.
Can you image these lines if they could....
Perfection
Hoffman...DK...Kase
Debrusk...Coyle...Smith
Each line has a scorer and three lines of depth. If the kids dont make it on D, make a trade at the deadline for a D.
If JJ can't afford the team anymore then it is time for him to sell it. JMO.
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If there is an internal cap, why in the HELL are they giving guaranteed money to a guy like Kevan Miller?
I like this. Stud will fit in perfectly on the 2nd line when Kase gets hurt, too.
Sign off Hoffman, play the kids on the blueline, and get a defenseman at the trade deadline.
People act like this team has crashed and burned. We've lost one, potentially 2, players off a presidents trophy winning team. There's no need to force a desperation move now when we can wait until the deadline. Same thing we did with 3C a couple seasons ago. We didn't rush it, we got Coyle at the deadline, and we went to game 7 of the Cup.
I doubt that, what's the point of being 5 mil below the max amount, not buying it. I still firmly believe that the Bruins will be making further moves to improve the team.
I hope but highly doubt it unless they get rid of some of the redundant players not needed as i spoke about in my above post
PlayMakers
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Thanks, I hear what you're saying about Chara, but at the same time, is there anyone in the organization that's better? Chara was a team leading +26 last year going against everyone's best player. He killed every penalty. He gets exposed when the pace picks up in the playoffs but unless Sweeney shocks everyone with a big deal for a shut down D, I think they bring him back to play with Charlie again. I think if Sweeney deals for a puck mover that guy will play 2nd pair with Carlo. I think the Miller signing suggest they're dangling Clifton, and picturing Gryz with Miller or Lauzon (on his off-side) on the 3rd pair.
Absurdity
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I think Chara's demise is exaggerated a bit. Yes, he looked horrible in the playoff bubble, but I think staying off the ice for as long as he did affected his play and skating. Heck, I think the break affected some other guys on the team as well in that regard.
Even if there isn't (and that may be true) I just don't view that as a reason - not suggesting you do, of course. I get you're doing what you can with who you can.
No it isn't and here's the problem- he wasn't good before the bubble, he was going downhill as the season progressed- and physical marvel that he is, we saw what the layoff did to him in terms of playing at the level needed for the NHL. At 43 he isn't coming back from that. Not with another 4 month or who knows how long of a layoff. It surely affected some others, but it's one thing to rebound when you are 23 like Brandon Carlo and another when you are essentially middle-aged.
