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Prospect Info: 2020 NHL Entry Draft Thread

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It's pretty interesting just how close Byfield's production compares to Taylor Hall's. Not only is the points/game similar, but the ratio of goals to points is identical.

So, getting Taylor Hall production in a Kopitar body is a pretty exceptional combination.

Of course, Stutzle has some arguments for him, too.
 
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King'sPawn said:
It's pretty interesting just how close Byfield's production compares to Taylor Hall's. Not only is the points/game similar, but the ratio of goals to points is identical.

So, getting Taylor Hall production in a Kopitar body is a pretty exceptional combination.

Of course, Stutzle has some arguments for him, too.
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Taylor Hall production in a Kopitar body with Taylor Hall speed lol
 
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BringTheReign said:
Sure, those are the reasons, not that he's eminently qualified after putting up one of the best draft-eligible seasons in OHL history, or that he's 8-10 months younger than the Laf or Stutzle and is oozing extra potential as a result, or that he's got above-average NHL speed and agility, elite hands, and the hockey IQ to lead a team offensively.

Of all the arguments you could make, holding "wokeness" against a team selecting Byfield over Stutzle? Really?
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He has "elite hockey iq?"
 
AlphaBravo said:
I have concerns about Stutzle. I’m not a pro scout so maybe I am missing something, but he only had 7 goals in the 19-20 season. He had decent stats in prior seasons, but 7 goals does not stand out as elite to me.

He may have speed and motor, but all that may mean is we have another Kempe, who has similar attributes but can’t score 30 goals.

I would take my chances with Byfield.
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The DEL is a men's professional league. His production is extremely impressive for a 17 year old playing against professionals. Byfield and Lafreniere are playing against kids in a junior league. Big difference.

Look at Kopitar's stats playing in the SEL as a teenager. 8 goals in 52 games.
 
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its the ratio of points that worries me with Stutzle, 1:4 goals to assists means hes creating space but not necessarily have the ability to finish it himself. Byfield can go either way pass or shoot.

Dont get me wrong Stutzle is awesome, but hed be more awesome if he could create the space then pick a corner with a finish.
 
Sparky206 said:
its the ratio of points that worries me with Stutzle, 1:4 goals to assists means hes creating space but not necessarily have the ability to finish it himself. Byfield can go either way pass or shoot.

Dont get me wrong Stutzle is awesome, but hed be more awesome if he could create the space then pick a corner with a finish.
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Scouts have stated that his shot is the worst part of his game.
 
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What's happening with the Leafs 3rd rounder that may become a 2nd rounder? I know it was conditional to whether or not Clifford re-signs OR if the Leafs make playoffs + Campbell gets 6 wins. He's at 3 wins right now, they're going to make the playoffs (I think). Do you envision the Leafs playing Campbell down the stretch?
 
AKAY47 said:
What's happening with the Leafs 3rd rounder that may become a 2nd rounder? I know it was conditional to whether or not Clifford re-signs OR if the Leafs make playoffs + Campbell gets 6 wins. He's at 3 wins right now, they're going to make the playoffs (I think). Do you envision the Leafs playing Campbell down the stretch?
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These aren't regular season games so that part is finished, obviously if Clifford were to re-sign the 2021 3rd would become a 2nd.
 
They are going over the best draft year of every NHL team and have a pretty cool writeup about our 2019 draft.

Los Angeles Kings
Best draft: 2019
It can be hard to pinpoint some of the more recent drafts as an organization’s best, but in reviewing each of the Kings’ draft classes, I just kept coming back to their latest. In a pivotal moment in their current rebuild, the Kings needed to use their nine picks (including four in the first two rounds) to their advantage. And they did. I labelled them as one of the draft’s winners last June and that was with me being lower than most at the time on Tobias Bjornfot. Between Bjornfot, Alex Turcotte (my No. 3 prospect at the time taken at No. 5), Arthur Kaliyev (my No. 13, taken No. 33), Samuel Fagemo (my No. 42, taken No. 50), and Jordan Spence (my No. 47, taken No. 95), the Kings put together one of the best drafts relative to my board since I began doing this seven years ago. In doing so, I believe they have a chance at coming away with a handful of future NHL players, including a number of potential top-of-the-lineup pieces. If that happens, they will have re-shaped the organization in one fell swoop.
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Wheeler: Every NHL team's best draft of the last 20 years
 
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Something to think about:
Comparing stats from 2016-2017 till this year. Laff has 159 goals compared to Byfield's 160. (No playoffs just regular season and tournaments).

I think Byfield's floor is an Eric Stall type of player\production to possibly hitting Malkin levels.
 
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johnjm22 said:
The DEL is a men's professional league. His production is extremely impressive for a 17 year old playing against professionals. Byfield and Lafreniere are playing against kids in a junior league. Big difference.

Look at Kopitar's stats playing in the SEL as a teenager. 8 goals in 52 games.
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I’m not saying Stutzles numbers aren’t decent but the SEL is much better than the DEL, it’s not an apples to apples comparison.
 
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Statto said:
I’m not saying Stutzles numbers aren’t decent but the SEL is much better than the DEL, it’s not an apples to apples comparison.
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Decent? Stutzle had I believe the best U21 season in DEL history.

Kopitar had 20 points in 47 games in the SEL as an 18 year.

Stutzle had 34 points in 41 games in the DEL as a 17 year old.

The SEL is the better league, so Stutzle should outperform statistically and he did. His season was GREAT. Not decent. If it was just decent he wouldn't be considered a top 3 pick.
 
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Stuzle is a great player, but after digging into a lot of stats and footage over the past few days, Byfield is clearly the right pick to me. He just has everything, and his ceiling is higher than both Turcotte and Vilardi.

Having those three in the center pipeline guarantees us at least one future #1C, which will very likely be Byfield himself. Drafting Stuzle is fine. He's a legitimate top flight wing. But we would be rolling the dice on Turcotte and especially Vilardi developing into #1Cs. Even at his ceiling, Turcotte to me has always been an ideal #2C on a contending team. And we are all familiar with Vilardi's injury concerns.

I just think Byfield is the right pick. If all three of these kids hit their ceilings and we suddenly have a logjam of top six NHL centers, then that is a very good problem to have.
 
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The Hockey Writers wants us to take Stutzle:

https://thehockeywriters.com/los-angeles-kings-stutzle-draft-byfield/

In sharp contrast, there is no doubt that the rich just got richer, as far as the Kings are concerned. They’ve literally spent years developing their prospect pipeline, to the point that their system is ranked as one the league’s best, if not No. 1 overall in its own right. Now, they’ve got a No. 2 overall pick to add to it. That pick should be Stützle based on their relative lack of depth on the left side at the moment.
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Mats26 said:
Something to think about:
Comparing stats from 2016-2017 till this year. Laff has 159 goals compared to Byfield's 160. (No playoffs just regular season and tournaments).

I think Byfield's floor is an Eric Stall type of player\production to possibly hitting Malkin levels.
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I think Eric Staal is an excellent comparable (obviously Malkin would be fantastic, but trying to be more realistic). He's a big #1C who isn't overly physical but uses his frame and speed incredibly well. You might not say Staal has elite hockey IQ, but his hands, shot, speed, and size combined with an above average hockey IQ still led to a career where you could argue he was top 5 at his position at his peak.
 
KopitarFAN said:
That article is so flawed, it focuses solely on drafting for need, even though it says Byfield is the consensus #2 player.
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I highly doubt they are, but if the Kings are set on Stutzle at #2, they should feel out Ottawa and see if they can move to #3 and grab another asset.
 
KopitarFAN said:
That article is so flawed, it focuses solely on drafting for need, even though it says Byfield is the consensus #2 player.
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Pretty much, I doubt if LA takes Stutzle it is because they felt they needed him over Byfield. It's just the first article I've seen that suggests LA should take Stutzle first.
 
Telos said:
Pretty much, I doubt if LA takes Stutzle it is because they felt they needed him over Byfield. It's just the first article I've seen that suggests LA should take Stutzle first.
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I won't mind if they take him, because we know it will be because they think he's the 2nd best player, not because they are saying "we need a LW" with 20-21 in mind.
 
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