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Prospect Info: 2020 NHL Entry Draft Thread

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The lottery is just flat out stupid. If the league wants to stop teams from tanking you handle that after the fact. You finish last and get the top pick you become ineligible for number 1 for the next 10 years and number 2 for five years. You finish second to last and pick second you pick no higher than 4 for five years.

Of course you can establish ranges as to whatever the league sees as reasonable. This way you guarantee potential generation picks get moved around and take more of the luck out of the process. Nothing will change though until the outcry from a team winning the lottery 2 or 3 years in a row inevitably happens.
 
HookKing said:
The lottery is just flat out stupid. If the league wants to stop teams from tanking you handle that after the fact. You finish last and get the top pick you become ineligible for number 1 for the next 10 years and number 2 for five years. You finish second to last and pick second you pick no higher than 4 for five years.

Of course you can establish ranges as to whatever the league sees as reasonable. This way you guarantee potential generation picks get moved around and take more of the luck out of the process. Nothing will change though until the outcry from a team winning the lottery 2 or 3 years in a row inevitably happens.
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The Oilers won the draft lottery three years in a row in 2010, 2011 and 2012. That got them Taylor Hall, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins and Nail Yakupov.

That's what led to the current lottery system, yet they still won the lottery in 2015 to land Connor McDavid.
 
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BringTheReign said:
Pronman graded the top 31 draft-eligible prospects from the last 5 drafts based on how he viewed them on their respective draft days, not how they've developed since. Here's what he had to say about Turcotte, and let's hope he's wrong and/or Turcotte bounces back whenever we have "next season."


Pronman: Top 31 NHL Draft prospects of the past five years,...
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It's not a very popular take here, but Turcotte had a disappointing season last year, the Kings can spin it and say he didn't but anyone who follows that program would tell you that. Most of the Top 10 picks who played college hockey who became good NHL players over the past few years showed much more than he did in the Big Ten last year. Certainly not writing off, but he did not look like a Top 10 pick last year. It would not shock me to see the Kings go center again this year. The Vilardi return was a huge boost but there is still big risk with back injuries and a #1 center is a must for a rebuilding team.
 
Ziggy Stardust said:
The Oilers won the draft lottery three years in a row in 2010, 2011 and 2012. That got them Taylor Hall, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins and Nail Yakupov.

That's what led to the current lottery system, yet they still won the lottery in 2015 to land Connor McDavid.
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And the current system sucks. You have Detroit (perhaps the worst hockey team I have ever seen and I have no sympathy for them) with less than a 1 in 5 shot at the top pick. Ridiculous.
 
We could always just use some of the massive cap space we have, lean on a tremendously deep prospect pool, and sign a young #1C, (Barzal) give up the future firsts and have one of, if not the best Center group in the NHL. It certainly is an option we should strongly consider.
 
Rusty Batch said:
We could always just use some of the massive cap space we have, lean on a tremendously deep prospect pool, and sign a young #1C, (Barzal) give up the future firsts and have one of, if not the best Center group in the NHL. It certainly is an option we should strongly consider.
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I would be willing to even package Vilardi, Turcotte, and next year's 1st (and another plus) to Buffalo for Eichel. Talent like Eichel come once in a blue moon. Vilardi and Turcotte are huge question marks, while Eichel is a sure thing. We have the cap space, and he is young enough to fit within our long term plan. If we can keep the 1st in this trade, along with our other prospects, like Kaliyev, Fagemo, Madden, etc., our future will look very good.

That said, I do not see Buffalo trading Eichel in a million years. Eichel would essentially have to demand a trade.
 
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AlphaBravo said:
I would be willing to even package Vilardi, Turcotte, and next year's 1st (and another plus) to Buffalo for Eichel. Talent like Eichel come once in a blue moon. Vilardi and Turcotte are huge question marks, while Eichel is a sure thing. We have the cap space, and he is young enough to fit within our long term plan. If we can keep the 1st in this trade, along with our other prospects, like Kaliyev, Fagemo, Madden, etc., our future will look very good.

That said, I do not see Buffalo trading Eichel in a million years. Eichel would essentially have to demand a trade.
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He needs to pull a Ryan O’Reilly, demand a trade, move on to greener pastures, and win a Cup with the Kings.
 
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Herby said:
It's not a very popular take here, but Turcotte had a disappointing season last year, the Kings can spin it and say he didn't but anyone who follows that program would tell you that. Most of the Top 10 picks who played college hockey who became good NHL players over the past few years showed much more than he did in the Big Ten last year. Certainly not writing off, but he did not look like a Top 10 pick last year. It would not shock me to see the Kings go center again this year. The Vilardi return was a huge boost but there is still big risk with back injuries and a #1 center is a must for a rebuilding team.
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I don't think anyone is saying Turcotte had a great season, they're just saying it requires context. His personal context was thrown up above; all the picks around him also had various degrees of large struggles--Hughes and Kakko had major issues in the NHL, Dach looked promising but had Kyle Clifford's production, Byram struggled until New Year's himself, etc. In other words, who could you have picked instead that did better?

The only one that can really be argued that stood out a little relative to position is Zegras and he was relatively put in a position to succeed vs. Turcotte. Turcotte also despite his issues had the highest PPG on his team outside Caulfield, who was almost exclusively used as an offensive weapon.

Most of the people that are writing him off now didn't like him before the draft either. I'd actually argue he's again flying under the radar just like he did for the NTDP. While I don't think he's going to be some 90 point wonder of offense, I don't see any reason with his tools that he's not going to be a clone of Richards/Toews. Then again, it may just be one of those drafts where the entire top end fizzles, then what can you do? I'd make that pick again and again.
 
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Already getting excited for this lottery. For some unknown reason I'm optimistic for a top 3 pick. I'm torn between Stutzle and Byfield. Byfield seems like he has so much potential and him being younger is so nice. But Stutzle is unlike any player we've had for a long long time. It just seems like we haven't had an Uber skilled player in forever.
 
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kilowatt said:
Alex Turcotte turned 19 in February. I think we ought to give the kid some more time. Many of you wrote Vilardi off completely as well, and he looks to be our second line center next season.
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I won't write the kid off, tbh I never felt he had game breaking talent, obviously you would always like to see a top 5 pick go out there and dominate the year after the draft. So that you can hope he turns into a future superstar. But my feeling with Turcotte has always been that he will likely end up being a good two-way player, that can play a top 6 role and won't drive the line but won't slow it down either. Those guys are valuable.
 
ru4reals said:
Sheesh I know I'm slow as hell but after reading this whole dang thing I'm still comfused and already content with picking 7th. Cuz that's exactly how the Hockey Gods like to screw with us every year.
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Probably. Just know it would have ended differently if Blake had put Kubalik in latex and tied him to a wooden post in his dungeon with a ball gag.
 
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