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Prospect Info: 2020 NHL Entry Draft Thread

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Chazz Reinhold said:
So what happens if at least one play-in round team wins a top three pick on Friday but the play-in round is never actually completed due to the quickly escalating Covid situation in at least half the country?
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Best thing that happens is that all the top 3 are given to the bottom 7 and none of that Play In Team X BS happens. It’s just a f***ing joke if any of those teams nets a top 3 pick.
 
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I just spun the tankathon NHL lottery, and 3 placeholder teams took the top 3 spots, with the Kings dropping to 7th. If that happens, I can imagine immense pressure to stop having teams 11-15 be eligible for the lottery in the future. You shouldn't get a chance at the top 3 if you are finishing just outside the playoff race. It's not even all that remote when you spin to have 2 of the 3 top picks be from the placeholder teams, the odds system is a mess.
 
I think I see the lottery different than most.

Aside from the Kings, I want the best teams to win the lottery, and the worst teams to lose the lottery and drop as many spots as possible.

Losing should not be rewarded. There should be no benefit to being a bad team.
 
johnjm22 said:
I think I see the lottery different than most.

Aside from the Kings, I want the best teams to win the lottery, and the worst teams to lose the lottery and drop as many spots as possible.

Losing should not be rewarded. There should be no benefit to being a bad team.
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So how do bad teams get better then? Seems like all those past Cup winning teams had to get a little lucky with their draft positions in order to get better, like the Penguins and Hawks, and the Kings benefited as well with some high draft picks.

What you're suggesting makes no sense. You ever consider the salary cap? I guess the Leafs could use Lafreniere, but won't be able to sign him.
 
Ziggy Stardust said:
So how do bad teams get better then? Seems like all those past Cup winning teams had to get a little lucky with their draft positions in order to get better, like the Penguins and Hawks, and the Kings benefited as well with some high draft picks.
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I think there should be no correlation between where a team finishes in the standings and their draft position.

1st round of the draft should be completely determined by lottery. 31 balls. Each team gets one ball. The rest of the rounds would have the inverse draft order of the 1st round.

Ziggy Stardust said:
You ever consider the salary cap? I guess the Leafs could use Lafreniere, but won't be able to sign him.
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Yes exactly. The salary cap exists for a reason. One of those reasons is to prevent any single team (or few teams) from having all the talented players.
 
I respectfully disagree. You want the bad teams to get better. Competitive balance for the league. If the top teams ended up with the highest picks it wouldn’t be fair. By the way, every major sport in America has the bad teams picking higher. Why f*** it up?
 
johnjm22 said:
I think there should be no correlation between where a team finishes in the standings and their draft position.

1st round of the draft should be completely determined by lottery. 31 balls. Each team gets one ball. The rest of the rounds would have the inverse draft order of the 1st round.

Yes exactly. The salary cap exists for a reason. One of those reasons is to prevent any single team (or few teams) from having all the talented players.
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Or they should adopt what @All The Kings Men has suggested and just abolish the draft all together and have junior players be free agents.

Or go back to the old ways with the sponsorship system that ended up heavily favoring the Canadiens.
The French Canadian Rule

They should just allow teams to sign players when they're 13. That's how Boston wound up with number four, Bobby Orr.
The tale of how Bobby Orr became a Bruin
 
Remember when we’d get draft coverage from Jon Rosen, talking to scouts and staff on their thoughts and opinions on the top ranked draft eligible prospects? Yeah, I miss that too.

The only thing to look forward to now are hype videos waiting to see balls drop.
 
Crownroyal21 said:
I respectfully disagree. You want the bad teams to get better. Competitive balance for the league. If the top teams ended up with the highest picks it wouldn’t be fair. By the way, every major sport in America has the bad teams picking higher. Why f*** it up?
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No one agrees with me.

I get what you're saying. It's the argument that's made every time I bring this up. But I really don't think it would matter as much as people think.

Most of the time an average team would land the top pick. Once every 3 or 4 decades the best team might get the top pick. And if they do, so what? It would be very entertaining.

We already have a salary cap to make it so teams can't hoard talent.

Ultimately the best managed teams would still end up being the most successful ones over the long term.
 
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A major problem with the best teams in the league also getting the best draft choices on occasion is that it provides them with low cost replacements for their aging franchise players. The salary cap issues included with drafting a franchise player only become a factor if a very young team actually wins the Cup and even then that's not a bad "problem" to have. Every front office in the league would kill for that problem.
 
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Hey john. I get what you are saying. I just want to see a team like, say, Ottawa never get better. The only way they can is through the draft. If they keep sucking year after year the franchise may fold. I compare the nhl draft to the nfl draft. I like the nfl draft better. Worst team gets the first pick. It helps them try to catch up. I’m a lions fan. The nfl draft is like my super bowl because we suck. It’s the one day in the year that I can see hope.
 
johnjm22 said:
No one agrees with me.

I get what you're saying. It's the argument that's made every time I bring this up. But I really don't think it would matter as much as people think.

Most of the time an average team would land the top pick. Once every 3 or 4 decades the best team might get the top pick. And if they do, so what? It would be very entertaining.

We already have a salary cap to make it so teams can't hoard talent.

Ultimately the best managed teams would still end up being the most successful ones over the long term.
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I don't really fully disagree with you, I just think it can't be that simple. What if the 2015 Kings got McDavid? I think it would happen more often than you think even using just the last few years as examples.

I just think there needs to be something done to prevent a team winning multiple lotteries and to throw losing teams a bone. Agreed heavily that it should be about good management, but I also don't think teams that are just all-out 'bad' should be punished. I don't think teams that outright tanked blatantly like the Oilers and Sabres in that draft should be rewarded, but tanking as opposed to sucking is a different conversation imo.
 
Crownroyal21 said:
Hey john. I get what you are saying. I just want to see a team like, say, Ottawa never get better. The only way they can is through the draft. If they keep sucking year after year the franchise may fold. I compare the nhl draft to the nfl draft. I like the nfl draft better. Worst team gets the first pick. It helps them try to catch up. I’m a lions fan. The nfl draft is like my super bowl because we suck. It’s the one day in the year that I can see hope.
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I dunno, as a lions fan you should know full well that a team can suck for decades and that continued high draft picks is no guarantee of anything.
 
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