HF Habs: 2020 Montreal Canadiens Off-Season Thread part 3

[le_sean]

I didn’t know that. I’d put him as a lower tier first liner myself.

 

[Zorba]

How have they been a top 5 5v5 line over the past two seasons in the entire league if they're not a first line then

Dude. Seriously. None none of those guys are first liners
You gonna compare them to players like , Mathews, marner, eichel, Barkov, Hurbedeau ,
Kucherov and point?
Don’t even try spinning it.

 

[The Great Weal]

Is he better than Tatar or Gallagher

On par with Tatar I'd say. After Tatar and Gallagher, the winger depth is ugly. Drouin is good sometimes and bad other times. So having 3 2nd line wingers is better than 2.

 

[The Great Weal]

Didnt Gallys own agent kinda claim that he isnt a 1st line winger? Regardless of what you think of him, having him as our best forward is incredibly pathetic.

 

[Zorba]

On par with Tatar I'd say. After Tatar and Gallagher, the winger depth is ugly. Drouin is good sometimes and bad other times. So having 3 2nd line wingers is better than 2.

You can’t give dandonov 6 million though
Then Gallagher will ask for 7

 

[Kairi Zaide]

Dude. Seriously. None none of those guys are first liners
You gonna compare them to players like , Mathews, marner, eichel, Barkov, Hurbedeau ,
Kucherov and point?
Don’t even try spinning it.

That doesn't change the factual results they have accomplished with consistency over 2 seasons. Which is being one of the 5 best 5v5 line in the entire NHL.

And Gallagher is absolutely a 1st liner on his own.

 

[The Great Weal]

You can’t give dandonov 6 million though
Then Gallagher will ask for 7

Dadonov has scored 65+ points in 2 of the past 3 years. Gally has never even hit 55. If Gally wants 7 then trade his ass. Dadonov is free and you get assets for Gally.

 

[Zorba]

That doesn't change the factual results they have accomplished with consistency over 2 seasons. Which is being one of the 5 best 5v5 line in the entire NHL.

And Gallagher is absolutely a 1st liner on his own.

54 pts career high. Ok. So you have no problem paying him 8-9 million? Right?? First line prices

 

[BargainBinSpecial]

I disagree, Gallagher on a fully stacked team would be a third liner, getting some occasional minutes on the second line and PP. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love the player but let's be realistic...

 

[Zorba]

Dadonov has scored 65+ points in 2 of the past 3 years. Gally has never even hit 55. If Gally wants 7 then trade his ass. Dadonov is free and you get assets for Gally.

I’m not disagreeing. But if Gallagher is a so called first line player, then poSters shouldn’t get upset when he gets 8 million

 

[Price4Prez]

Drouin-Suzuki-xx
Xx-KK-Armia
Tatar-Danault- Gallagher
Lehkonen-Evans-Byron

Chariot-Weber
Edmondson-Petry
Romanov-Kulak

Thats how it should be and the holes we have imo.

My suggestions:

1- Swing for the fences for Hall to play with KK
2- Trade base of Domi for J. Anderson to play with Suzuki
3- Not a fan of Evans personally. Id make a play for either Bozak or Cirelli to slot as 4th C. A 2nd pick for Bozak or 1st for Cirelli.


Drouin-Suzuki-Anderson
Hall-KK-Armia
Tatar-Danault-Gallagher
Lehkonen-Cirelli/Bozak-Byron

Just what id do...i know im dreaming lol

 

[Kairi Zaide]

54 pts career high. Ok. So you have no problem paying him 8-9 million? Right?? First line prices

If longevity wasn't a concern with him, I'd totally be fine with 7-8M over a few seasons yes. Over 8M is for the most elite players, not typical first line money. 6.5-8 is more like the range.

 

[Zorba]

If longevity wasn't a concern with him, I'd totally be fine with 7-8M over a few seasons yes. Over 8M is for the most elite players, not typical first line money. 6.5-8 is more like the range.

Ok. You’re gonna give Gallagher 7.5 million?
Good luck to the habs

 

[Kairi Zaide]

I disagree, Gallagher on a fully stacked team would be a third liner, getting some occasional minutes on the second line and PP. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love the player but let's be realistic...

Maybe he'd play 3rd line on the Leafs with Marner and Nylander ahead.

I can't find any other team when looking quickly. I hope you can help me. I'm really eager to know which other teams have two RWs better than Gally.

 

[Kairi Zaide]

Ok. You’re gonna give Gallagher 7.5 million?
Good luck to the habs

That's his value, assuming he doesn't regress badly due to injuries.

Thing is, he's gonna get less than his value because points drive most of the contract's value for forwards.

 

[BargainBinSpecial]

Maybe he'd play 3rd line on the Leafs with Marner and Nylander ahead.

I can't find any other team when looking quickly. I hope you can help me. I'm really eager to know which other teams have two RWs better than Gally.

1) Pens : Guetzel, Zucker
2) Caps : Panic, Ovechkin, Oshie
3) Hawks : Kane, Debrincat, Saad
4) Wild : Zucca, Fiala
5) Isles : Eberle, Bailey
Etc.

A lot of them also play LW.

 

[Kairi Zaide]

1) Pens : Guetzel, Zucker
2) Caps : Panic, Ovechkin, Oshie
3) Hawks : Kane, Debrincat, Saad
4) Wild : Zucca, Fiala
5) Isles : Eberle, Bailey
Etc.

A lot of them also play LW.

Guentzel sure. Zucker is arguable. Very similar impact player. Both played LW this season and before, though.
Ovi isn't the player he used to be, but I'll concede. Panik and Oshie aren't better. Especially not Panik.
Kane and Debrincat sure. Saad nope.
Zucc is not better - similar at best. Fiala has had up's and downs, but going forward likely better, assuming this past season wasn't an outlier.
Eberle and Bayley are not better.

Basically Leafs (maybe) and Hawks.

Good try though.

 

[1909]

I disagree, Gallagher on a fully stacked team would be a third liner, getting some occasional minutes on the second line and PP. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love the player but let's be realistic...

No. He would not be a 1st line, nor a 3rd line player. He would be a very good second line rw.

 

[le_sean]

I disagree, Gallagher on a fully stacked team would be a third liner, getting some occasional minutes on the second line and PP. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love the player but let's be realistic...

On a stacked team he's still a 2nd liner - he’s easily the 2nd best RW on Tampa. He brings a lot to a team. It’s not just about goals. Let’s not exaggerate.

 

[Odie Cleghorn]

No. He would not be a 1st line, nor a 3rd line player. He would be a very good second line rw.

Exactly. He is a 2nd line rw optimally.

 

[Odie Cleghorn]

Drouin-Suzuki-xx
Xx-KK-Armia
Tatar-Danault- Gallagher
Lehkonen-Evans-Byron

Chariot-Weber
Edmondson-Petry
Romanov-Kulak

Thats how it should be and the holes we have imo.

My suggestions:

1- Swing for the fences for Hall to play with KK
2- Trade base of Domi for J. Anderson to play with Suzuki
3- Not a fan of Evans personally. Id make a play for either Bozak or Cirelli to slot as 4th C. A 2nd pick for Bozak or 1st for Cirelli.


Drouin-Suzuki-Anderson
Hall-KK-Armia
Tatar-Danault-Gallagher
Lehkonen-Cirelli/Bozak-Byron

Just what id do...i know im dreaming lol

Cirelli would not be the 4th line c. He will be far better than Danault offensively and at least equal defensively. In reality if they could sign Cirelli Danault would be gone.

 

[BargainBinSpecial]

Guentzel sure. Zucker is arguable. Very similar impact player. Both played LW this season and before, though.
Ovi isn't the player he used to be, but I'll concede. Panik and Oshie aren't better. Especially not Panik.
Kane and Debrincat sure. Saad nope.
Zucc is not better - similar at best. Fiala has had up's and downs, but going forward likely better, assuming this past season wasn't an outlier.
Eberle and Bayley are not better.

Basically Leafs (maybe) and Hawks.

Good try though.

I disagree, he's a third liner with RW potential, not a first though. Some Habs fans overrate players as usual.

 

[1909]

I disagree, he's a third liner with RW potential, not a first though. Some Habs fans overrate players as usual.

No third liner have the skills to score 30 goals on average per season.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Hes not tho.
Yikes

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Didnt Gallys own agent kinda claim that he isnt a 1st line winger? Regardless of what you think of him, having him as our best forward is incredibly pathetic.

He did say that. Which is funny