2020 Draft & Undrafted Free Agent Thread: Part IV

[Cag29]

Yeah I would be heart broken if Rossi was missed by one spot BUT Quinn/Jarvis/Mercer/Lundell wouldn't be so bad. Maybe even a chance to trade down a few slots if a good second rounder was included. Let's just make sure we pick #1 or top 10.

I think around 10/6.

 

[bl02]

wow. well Arizona rebounded from losing lead very late lets see how the Jackets respond.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

1) Lafreniere
2) Byfield
3) Stutzle
4) Perfetti
5) Sanderson
6) Raymond
7) Drysdale
8) Askarov
9) Holtz
10) Rossi
11) Rangers

Makes sense. Rangers luck.

Lundell I think I would take over 1-2 of those players regardless

 

[BBKers]

1) Lafreniere
2) Byfield
3) Stutzle
4) Perfetti
5) Sanderson
6) Raymond
7) Drysdale
8) Askarov
9) Holtz
10) Rossi
11) Rangers

Makes sense. Rangers luck.

Minnesota will win. We will win draft lottery. Duh....

 

[Edge]

Yeah but at some point they need to have a fear of not having enough options at center and forward.

I think there are a number of forwards the Rangers like who will be on the board.

The hard part with the Rangers is their propencity to have one of two mystery candidates in the mix.

We especially saw that in 2018 and 2010.

 

[FoxyClean]

So it's 1, 10, or 11. I'm okay with it.

 

[Thirty One]

So it's 1, 10, or 11. I'm okay with it.

12.5% - 1
25% - 10
62.5% - 11

 

[FIRE DRURY]

12.5% - 1
25% - 10
62.5% - 11

 

[mas0764]

Lundell I think I would take over 1-2 of those players regardless

I do like Lundell but not over Rossi or Holtz. And obviously I’m not saying to take Askarov.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I do like Lundell but not over Rossi or Holtz. And obviously I’m not saying to take Askarov.

For me, the only ones I'd take ahead of Lundell are Lafreniere, Byfield, Stützle and Holtz. That's it.

Looking at Rossi, I think there are some red flags, mostly surrounding his unnatural jump in production. Not saying he is not a great prospect, but having a bunch of 20-year olds contributing this season, including a new arrival in Garreffa, there is a case to be made that his performance was impacted significantly on external factors

 

[usekakkorightquinn]

LMAO at Arizona winning and screwing the Devils pick up.

 

[mas0764]

For me, the only ones I'd take ahead of Lundell are Lafreniere, Byfield, Stützle and Holtz. That's it.

Looking at Rossi, I think there are some red flags, mostly surrounding his unnatural jump in production. Not saying he is not a great prospect, but having a bunch of 20-year olds contributing this season, including a new arrival in Garreffa, there is a case to be made that his performance was impacted significantly on external factors

Wow, that’s tall praise. I certainly think he’s getting some of the Lias negativity right now. But 60 point defensively responsible center - especially with the wings we have - doesn’t seem out of the question for him.

 

[usekakkorightquinn]

Still think the Rangers will go for Schneider. Let's say he is 3-4 years away. In 4 years Trouba's NMC ends and he has a limited NTC. Rangers need a big, physical, RHD replacement as they are tiny on the right side. I could see them trading back 2 spots if they pick at 9 or 10.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Lundell I think I would take over 1-2 of those players regardless

Askarov is the only one I'd take him over for me.

I'd put Quinn, Jarvis, Reichel and maybe Mercer above him as well. The skating issues are over blown, but it isn't what I'd consider good either.

Looking at Rossi, I think there are some red flags, mostly surrounding his unnatural jump in production. Not saying he is not a great prospect, but having a bunch of 20-year olds contributing this season, including a new arrival in Garreffa, there is a case to be made that his performance was impacted significantly on external factors

He was over a PPG last year too. 20 year olds or what ever, the next closest guy to him scoring wise was 30 points behind him.

He isn't lead the league in scoring good, but he's a little tank and is a top 10 guy for sure. There are more red flags around Lundell IMO.

All that said, I like Quinn better of the Ottawa duo. He's the total package.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

So 37.5% chance to have either the first pick or top 10 pick

sounds good to me

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

Still think the Rangers will go for Schneider. Let's say he is 3-4 years away. In 4 years Trouba's NMC ends and he has a limited NTC. Rangers need a big, physical, RHD replacement as they are tiny on the right side. I could see them trading back 2 spots if they pick at 9 or 10.

So you're basically using the same logic we used to take McIlrath.

Well, it adds up. I mean we may be picking 10th and it'll be 10 years later since that infamous pick, so...

 

[Fitzy]

For me, the only ones I'd take ahead of Lundell are Lafreniere, Byfield, Stützle and Holtz. That's it.

Looking at Rossi, I think there are some red flags, mostly surrounding his unnatural jump in production. Not saying he is not a great prospect, but having a bunch of 20-year olds contributing this season, including a new arrival in Garreffa, there is a case to be made that his performance was impacted significantly on external factors

The same critique was leveled at Jeff Skinner, to be fair.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

The same critique was leveled at Jeff Skinner, to be fair.

Yeah, and it is by no means a guarantee either way. It's just something that makes me a bit weary of drafting Rossi. That said, if he's there at 11, he is most likely the best available and you go for him.

 

[usekakkorightquinn]

So you're basically using the same logic we used to take McIlrath.

Well, it adds up. I mean we may be picking 10th and it'll be 10 years later since that infamous pick, so...

Schneider and McIlrath are nothing alike as prospects. If you did any research you would know that. Schneider has a high hockey IQ. He's an excellent skater. Is rock solid on defense, consistently lays big hits and has good passing skills. A better comparison to Schenider would be Dunn but a righty.McIlrath was taken because the Rangers were a bunch of pansies in a time where teams still had a lot more goons.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

#WeNeverMakeAGoodPoint.

I'd be surprised if the Rangers took a non Sanderson D with their top pick. There is too much forward talent available and more or less a sure thing that someone really good will still be there whenever the Rangers pick.

Whether or not they take that player is a different story, but they will be there

 

[LiveLongandProspal]

Schneider and McIlrath are nothing alike as prospects. If you did any research you would know that. Schneider has a high hockey IQ. He's an excellent skater. Is rock solid on defense, consistently lays big hits and has good passing skills. A better comparison to Schenider would be Dunn but a righty.McIlrath was taken because the Rangers were a bunch of pansies in a time where teams still had a lot more goons.

"Rangers need a big, physical, RHD replacement as they are tiny on the right side."

Your words. I wonder who that sounds like...

And BTW, why are we drafting based on need? So this kid could possibly replace Trouba in 3-4 years. We're really projecting what's going to happen in 3-4 years from now?

 

[bbny]

12.5% - 1
25% - 10
62.5% - 11

Can you translate these to how many heads in a row we need?

 

[eco's bones]

McIlrath was late to playing the game if I remember correctly and very raw even when we drafted him. One of the main things with him then was how tough he was--almost the toughest player in the WHL as a 17/18 year old. Skill wise raw--skating--good straight ahead speed but raw there too--hockey IQ was not a particular strength either. He projected as a stay behind physical defenseman more likely to be second pair than first pair if he reached his ceiling and injuries and all the other crap that happened afterwards has turned him into more an AHL'er than an NHL'er.

Schneider is big, physical, a much better skater with hockey sense and competitive and not really a fighter per se. The Black Book has Schneider (#11) ahead of Drysdale (#12) which really surprised me. But anyway I don't get McIlrath as a good comparable apart from they're both big, both are righties and both from the WHL.

That said we don't have a major need for a RD and though he moved up in my estimation a bit IMO there will be better options for us at #10 or #11 than him. If he's around for our second pick sure----though I still think it wiser all things being equal between prospects that we defer to Europeans in this draft and not North Americans. The likelihood that Europeans will have somewhere to play their D+1 years in these Covid times is greater than for North Americans and particularly players playing in the United States.

 

[ecemleafs]

Can you translate these to how many heads in a row we need?

or tails. provide a breakdown of how many heads in a row and how many tails in a row that is needed to get those picks. thx.

 

[Entrancemperium]

Can you translate these to how many heads in a row we need?

You evil savage!