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Didn't he fight the other Corey? (Hirsch, not Haim or Feldman)
Prospect Info: 2020 Devils-Centric Mock Draft, Conference Finals Edition
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If that’s the case, the only way we don’t end up with Drysdale is if Ottawa picks him at #5 because I can’t see Anaheim taking him. I can see the ducks picking Holtz/Quinn at #6 over Rossi and Drysdale. If our choice is between Drysdale and Rossi, we should be taking Jamie Drysdale.
I think he fought Tommy Soderstrom on the Isles.
I was at the game. I remember watching the scrum to my left, and Schwab restlessly skating little figure 8s in his crease to my right. Looked at the scrum... looked at Corey... looked at the scrum... looked to my right to see Corey at high speed coming down the ice ripping off equipment.
Strangely, one of the most memorable games I've been to.
Guadana
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The odds are extremely high that Raymond is available at #7. It's difficult to conceive of Detroit taking him at #4, and Ottawa and Anaheim historically don't draft smaller players early. Also, none of those teams have a pressing need for a playmaking winger.
I would say out of the consensus top 10 players, we can all agree that Lafreniere/Byfield/Stutzle are all gone by the time the Devils pick at #7. After that, I would say the least likely player to be on the board is Sanderson, followed by Drysdale -- as all three teams from #4 to #7 need D. We also need to face the fact that every team is going to have a different order on their draft boards for the usual suspects of Drysdale/Holtz/Perfetti/Raymond/Rossi/Sanderson and more than a few teams will have Askarov/Lundell/Quinn in that mix, as well.
Ultimately, I'm not holding my hopes up for Sanderson or Drysdale being available at #7. Chances are the Devils will decide between Perfetti, Raymond or Rossi... which is a pretty terrific choice.
If that’s the case, Rossi will be our pick at #7. Landing Perfetti instead of Rossi or Raymond would be disastrous IMO.
I can't argue on Rossi or Raymond, because if you read my final rankings I have them above Perfetti (Rossi #4, Raymond #7, Perfetti #9). But I think a lot of people are selling Perfetti a bit short. His mix of cool under pressure and smart is just stratospheric. It's not like he struggles because of his lack of size or high-end speed -- rather, he's adapted his game around them in almost a remarkable capacity. He's like a chess player, anticipating the defensive reactions to him and then almost manipulating them to make the play he wants. He's the master of deception and so slick with his passing and precise with his shooting, he's an assassin out there. Just a tremendous offensive talent.
That being said, I do think that if the Devils miss out on the defensemen and Rossi is there, he's pretty much a slam dunk to be the New Jersey pick.
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Eggtimer
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I am on the pro Askarov team , but not at 7. Too many other players of greater need. One of Sanderson Drysdale Rossi Raymond Holtz will be there at 7 and no way in hell I take Askarov over them .
However , if Askarov is still there at 18 ??? I would pull the trigger unless Lapierre is still available.. I think he is the 4th best forward in the draft but injuries are worrisome. With three picks in the first round , I am fine with taking a gamble on a player that could very well end up a dynamic 1st line forward.
Eggtimer
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This is exactly where I am at as well.
No way Schneider should start or back up at all . Season is over before it began if Schneider is on the roster as an option with MB.
I would take Askarov at 18 . Having a vezina caliber goalie would be kinda nifty to have ... Kid is a stud prospect that is very highly touted. As in as highly touted as Price . Best goalie prospect in a decade and could be a top 5 goalie for the next decade.
The Red Wings remain the thinnest team organizationally at LD in the entire NHL, and again, Sanderson's offensive abilities have been sorely understated. I think Miro Heiskanen's post-season actually raised Sanderson's stock, as they are very comparable in a litany of aspects.
If I can be allowed to completely fabricate some imaginary numbers here, I would say that Sanderson has a 50% chance of being taken by Detroit at #4, then a solid 30% chance of being taken by Ottawa at #5. But I see there's almost no chance of Sanderson getting past Anaheim at #6 -- I can't see another player they would draft over him here. He's exactly what the Ducks scouts love on the back end. This is a front office who (according to the consensus) "reached" for Hampus Lindholm at #6 overall not long ago -- Sanderson is the same type of player as Lindholm but about 10 times better at the same age. More recently, they spent a first round pick on Jacob Larsson, another similarly-styled player who is not even in Sanderson's galaxy talent-wise.
My point is, that I think Devils fans need to give up the ghost on Jake Sanderson. He's the least likely player (outside the universal "top 3") to fall to New Jersey at #7.
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All of my statistics here were, in fact, absolutely made up.
Okay -- here's a fun (and not impossible) hypothetical for you guys.
The first 6 picks go exactly as they do in the mock draft at the beginning of this thread. Winnipeg -- really desperate for their always-elusive second-line center -- calls the Devils up and offers the #10 pick, the #40 pick and very good goaltending prospect Mikhail Berdin in order to move up to the #7 pick and draft Marco Rossi.
1) Do you make the trade?
2) Who do you draft at #10?
3) Who do you draft at #40?
Rules: no "unrealistic draft-drops". Lucas Raymond will not be available at #10, and Jan Mysak or Lukas Reichel will not be available at #40.
Personally, I'm not sure if I would make this deal, which is why I think it's a good question. For fun, I'll say that the guys I would pick at #10 and #40 are Seth Jarvis (yes, over Quinn and Holtz) and Tristen Robins (no, not a defenseman for the sake of taking a defenseman).
The first 6 picks go exactly as they do in the mock draft at the beginning of this thread. Winnipeg -- really desperate for their always-elusive second-line center -- calls the Devils up and offers the #10 pick, the #40 pick and very good goaltending prospect Mikhail Berdin in order to move up to the #7 pick and draft Marco Rossi.
1) Do you make the trade?
2) Who do you draft at #10?
3) Who do you draft at #40?
Rules: no "unrealistic draft-drops". Lucas Raymond will not be available at #10, and Jan Mysak or Lukas Reichel will not be available at #40.
Personally, I'm not sure if I would make this deal, which is why I think it's a good question. For fun, I'll say that the guys I would pick at #10 and #40 are Seth Jarvis (yes, over Quinn and Holtz) and Tristen Robins (no, not a defenseman for the sake of taking a defenseman).
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no thanks. Take one of the D or Rossi and call it a day.
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1) Yes, absolutely.
2) Jack Quinn assuming 7, 8, 9 go as you had them.
3) Tristen Robins, Martin Chromiak or, if we want to go D there, Topi Niemela.
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Askarov looking real good so far in the KHL as an 18 year goalie. Too bad our picks are either too high or too low to realistically snag him, he's unreal.
Yes. Would love to add a good young goaltending prospect. At 10 I take Perfetti or Quinn (prefer Perfetti), at 40 I take a high ceiling forward like Miettinen.
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Yes, probably Jarvis and a defenseman, Barron maybe? I’m open to other defensemen depending on who’s still there. I want to draft a defenseman in second round and you can’t take this from me.
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1) I would 100% make the trade. That is really good value for moving up and it's definitely a little easier especially given that don't particularly love Rossi over a lot of the other guys available.
2) I would take the same guy I would've if we had the pick at #7, Jack Quinn.
3) I really like a couple of the 2nd round defenseman like Ryan O'Rourke and Shakir Mukhamadulin, and Dmitry Rashevsky and Tristan Robins would be my two guys for forward. Hard to say definitively which one of these guys I would take, but O'Rourke and Rashevsky would probably be my top two guys (and hopefully only one would be available to make the decision easier), with the other two not far behind either.
I love Miettinen, but you should keep in mind that my own ranking of him at #43 is the highest I've seen out of any ranking. Granted, my recent history on players that are seen by the consensus as later round picks but I have just outside the first round is pretty decent (2014: Point and Dvorak, 2015: Hintz and Bear, 2016: Fox and Joey Anderson, 2017: Samberg and Samorukov) -- but still I think if I was focusing on Miettinen at #40, I would trade down and try to get another pick out of it.
I live in the DAL NHL tv zone and see a fair amount of Heiskanen games. My opinion having watched him now for a couple of years is that he quietly has incredibly high hockey IQ. His stick and positioning are usually spot on in the defensive zone. He sees the open guy on offense and can sneak into shooting potions if you don’t pay attention to him. That IQ - which he can use in real time- and his great skating are what make him special. That said he’s not physical and at times goes out of his way to avoid contact. Your description of Sanderson sounds a bit different to me.
Justin Barron is a very curious case. He was a late drop on my final rankings to #41 overall. I realize a lot of his struggles in his draft-eligible season were due to health concerns, but he just never asserted himself in any aspect of the game -- offensively, defensively or physically -- that you would like to see from a skilled, fast 6'2 defenseman.
I hold out hope that Barron has a whole lot of upside we are yet to see, but he's become a serious risk wherever you pick him on account of -- well, we're yet to see it yet. I still think he would be a pretty decent pick in the #40 overall range on account of the potential, but I can't say he would be on top of my list were I an NHL GM in that position.
Yeah, I like to say that draft-eligible Sanderson is a better version of draft-eligible Heiskanen. Sanderson is more physical and better offensively than Heiskanen was at the same age.
Then it’s a shame he won’t be there for the NJ pick. A Heiskanen with physical play would be just what the doctor ordered for the left side of the NJ blue line.
Sure, but you said we couldn't assume that guys like Mysak would fall, and Pronman has him at #43.
Actually though, part of the appeal of a trade like that to me is that I do think someone will inevitably tumble, and it would be good to be at #40 to scoop him up since we don't have a second round pick.
