Rumor: 2020-21 Trade Rumours and FA Part VIII: Intra-Playoff Edition?

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Is there any chance we could get Byfield out of LA?

I’m a big fan of his game, so I’d probably be willing to give up more than most on this board.

He could start as a 3C next year and then work is way into the 2C role when Kadri’s contract expires.

Sure there is... send them Makar!

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

Sure there is... send them Makar!

 

[Ararana]

Is there any chance we could get Byfield out of LA?

I’m a big fan of his game, so I’d probably be willing to give up more than most on this board.

He could start as a 3C next year and then work is way into the 2C role when Kadri’s contract expires.

I wonder if they sent a Byam package. LA has a huge hard on for Byram, they might sacrifice from their center prospects for him, though Byfield would be the hardest to pull of the three.

I wouldn't want to do it with my obvious fanboy love for Byram, just speculating. I'd trade Girard before Byram, but I know other on these boards have the opposite opinion.

 

[Pokecheque]

I wonder if they sent a Byam package. LA has a huge hard on for Byram, they might sacrifice from their center prospects for him, though Byfield would be the hardest to pull of the three.

I wouldn't want to do it with my obvious fanboy love for Byram, just speculating. I'd trade Girard before Byram, but I know other on these boards have the opposite opinion.

Nope. Stop right there--they're not accepting futures for a guy they hope is their future franchise center. And Bo Byram still counts as a future.

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

I wonder if they sent a Byam package. LA has a huge hard on for Byram, they might sacrifice from their center prospects for him, though Byfield would be the hardest to pull of the three.

I wouldn't want to do it with my obvious fanboy love for Byram, just speculating. I'd trade Girard before Byram, but I know other on these boards have the opposite opinion.

It just seems natural that they would move one of their centre prospects for a defenceman.

But, yeah, I imagine Byfield is basically untouchable unless they get blown away by a big offer.

 

[BaconNater]

How much you think Danault raised his contract value during these playoffs?

Maybe MacKinnon can use his same negotiation tactics he used on Panarin to get him here

 

[Ararana]

Nope. Stop right there--they're not accepting futures for a guy they hope is their future franchise center. And Bo Byram still counts as a future.

To be completely fair, they're both futures.

But I ultimately agree, if I was Rob Blake I wouldn't do it. I am in the camp that a true franchase #1C is the hardest position to find, stick with the guy you drafted. But for the record, I don't think either of Byram or Byfield become the #1D or #1C they were projected to be on draft day.

 

[Hasbro]

Is there any chance we could get Byfield out of LA?

What a few years for him to disapoint, not establish a role on the or stay healthy then trade for him...Oh wait, that's Nolan Patrick, Kirby Dach Dylan Cozens, Serron Noel, Lawson Crouse, Logan Brown...

 

[RampoSanta]

I don't mind, but I've got some observations:

1) I can't stand that 4th line. I don't know if I want Ranta in the NHL full time especially on a 4th line next season. I'm also very against Tyson Jost getting almost a full 1M/year raise. If he wants anything over 1M/season you renounce his rights and allow him to become a UFA. He's just not good enough to be anything other than a 4th line forward.

2) Not sure how I feel about using Timmins to get Seattle to buy out EJ and then bring EJ back. I loved what I saw from Timmins in the playoffs, and he showed this season he stayed mostly healthy but especially in the playoffs once the physical play ramped up. He seems more confident now, and with EJ all but certain to get injured again and again I'd rather have Timmins in the lineup on that 3rd pairing.

3) I'm still of the opinion that the Avs need to jettison Kadri and find a more reliable 2C. How that looks, I've got no idea but Kadri ain't it for me. 3 of 4 playoff series' he's ever been apart of he's been suspended while watching his team get eliminated, that ain't no coincidence anymore it's a standard. Don't want him.

I think he can be turned into Hertl who could be a robust 2C option for years to come. Send Kadri + JTC + 2021 1st and a conditional pick for resigning

And I couldnt agree more about Jost.

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

Here’s my stab at an Off-season mock:

Expansion Draft: Graves goes to Seattle

Trade 1:

To CBJ: EJ, Byram, Francouz, 1st round pick, Ranta, Helleson

To Col: Jones (extended 7X7), Merzlikins

Trade 2:

To Det: Donskoi

To Col: Bernier negotiating rights, 2022 4th round pick

Trade 3:

To Capitals: Tyson Jost

To Colorado: Garnet Hathaway

Signings:
Hakanpaa 2 years X $2M
Danault 5 X $5M
Bernier: 1 X $3M
Glendening: 1 X $1.8M

Resingings:
Makar: 7 X $9.2M
Landeskog 7 X $7M
Timmins: 2 X $900K

Players leaving in free agency:
Grubauer
Saad
Calvert
Soderberg
Bellemare

Completed Roster:

Landeskog - MacK - Rantanen
Newhook - Kadri - Burakovsky
Nichushkin - Danault - Compher
LOC - Glendening - Hathaway

Toews - Makar
Girard - Jones
Hakanpaa - Timmins

Merzlikins
Bernier

 

[flyfysher]

Here’s my stab at an Off-season mock:

Expansion Draft: Graves goes to Seattle

Trade 1:

To CBJ: EJ, Byram, Francouz, 1st round pick, Ranta, Helleson

To Col: Jones (extended 7X7), Merzlikins

Trade 2:

To Det: Donskoi

To Col: Bernier negotiating rights, 2022 4th round pick

Trade 3:

To Capitals: Tyson Jost

To Colorado: Garnet Hathaway

Signings:
Hakanpaa 2 years X $2M
Danault 5 X $5M
Bernier: 1 X $3M
Glendening: 1 X $1.8M

Resingings:
Makar: 7 X $9.2M
Landeskog 7 X $7M
Timmins: 2 X $900K

Players leaving in free agency:
Grubauer
Saad
Calvert
Soderberg
Bellemare

Completed Roster:

Landeskog - MacK - Rantanen
Newhook - Kadri - Burakovsky
Nichushkin - Danault - Compher
LOC - Glendening - Hathaway

Toews - Makar
Girard - Jones
Hakanpaa - Timmins

Merzlikins
Bernier

Gotta give you props for the effort! Have to trade Kadri before the next TD though.

Edit: I bet Kadri does great next season though playing for his next contract.

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

Gotta give you props for the effort! Have to trade Kadri before the next TD though.

Edit: I bet Kadri does great next season though playing for his next contract.

If we’re going all-in I’m fine keeping Kadri as our own rental for the season.

 

[duckbear]

Trade 1:

To CBJ: EJ, Byram, Francouz, 1st round pick, Ranta, Helleson

To Col: Jones (extended 7X7), Merzlikins

CBJ takes this deal and runs imo. Way too much going back to them.

 

[flyfysher]

If we’re going all-in I’m fine keeping Kadri as our own rental for the season.

I was thinking of RampoSanta's proposal for Hertl. Love it but it means switching out the #1 going to CBJ or SJ with someone like Kaut. Not crazy about trading Kaut but it gets the Avs out from Compher's contract and away from Kadri and solves the 2C issue with Hertl. Would need a replacement for JTC. Still, that leaves the cupboard of prospects pretty wide open trading away the 1st, Byram, Ranta, Helleson and Kaut and who to call up if there's an injury. Seconds are already gone. It's definitely a chips all into the middle of the table move and who's to say where the club will find itself with injuries next season.

I hate calling it quits with EJ, Calvert and Bellemare like that but this is business first.

Don't know anything about Glendening or Hathaway other than their height, weight and age but I know you appreciate what LOC brings to the Avs and would (hopefully) only give him line mates that could maximize his offensive potential with speed and a bit of skill as well as some physicality when needed.

Anyway, I like that you:

1. Solved the longer term goalie issue;
2. Provided for the shorter term goalie situation if it becomes an issue;
3. Retained Girard while also resolving the physicality issue. You preserve the breakout;
4. Dumped the dead cap space;
5. Positioned the Avs to make a SC run.
6. Managed to retain Landeskog.
7. Strengthened the Avs at the C position. Danault can arguably step up at times to 2C.

 

[The Merchant]

Danault would be a dream to ensure we never have to see Compher in the top-9 as a center ever again.

 

[niwotsblessing]

Here’s my stab at an Off-season mock:

Expansion Draft: Graves goes to Seattle

Trade 1:

To CBJ: EJ, Byram, Francouz, 1st round pick, Ranta, Helleson

To Col: Jones (extended 7X7), Merzlikins

Looks like you spelled 'Girard' wrong.

 

[PowerMac]

Here’s my stab at an Off-season mock:

Expansion Draft: Graves goes to Seattle

Trade 1:

To CBJ: EJ, Byram, Francouz, 1st round pick, Ranta, Helleson

To Col: Jones (extended 7X7), Merzlikins

Trade 2:

To Det: Donskoi

To Col: Bernier negotiating rights, 2022 4th round pick

Trade 3:

To Capitals: Tyson Jost

To Colorado: Garnet Hathaway

Signings:
Hakanpaa 2 years X $2M
Danault 5 X $5M
Bernier: 1 X $3M
Glendening: 1 X $1.8M

Resingings:
Makar: 7 X $9.2M
Landeskog 7 X $7M
Timmins: 2 X $900K

Players leaving in free agency:
Grubauer
Saad
Calvert
Soderberg
Bellemare

Completed Roster:

Landeskog - MacK - Rantanen
Newhook - Kadri - Burakovsky
Nichushkin - Danault - Compher
LOC - Glendening - Hathaway

Toews - Makar
Girard - Jones
Hakanpaa - Timmins

Merzlikins
Bernier

LOL Imagine trading Byram just to get a D partner to make Girard look good. I don't get it, it's like some of you don't even want the team to win if Girard isn't part of the team anymore.

 

[TruePowerSlave]

Danault would be a dream to ensure we never have to see Compher in the top-9 as a center ever again.

Bednar would still manage to play JT as a center. Everyone knows he looks like shit as a C but they insist on playing him there anyway. They even reward the guy with #2C minutes no matter how garbage his performance have been.

 

[nammerus]

Bednar would still manage to play JT as a center. Everyone knows he looks like shit as a C but they insist on playing him there anyway. They even reward the guy with #2C minutes no matter how garbage his performance have been.

Whatever blame you put on Bednar, double that vitriol for Sakic. Sat on his ass for 24 months watching JTC and Jost make a mockery of the C position and didn’t even try to fix it.

 

[Islay1989]

Whatever blame you put on Bednar, double that vitriol for Sakic. Sat on his ass for 24 months watching JTC and Jost make a mockery of the C position and didn’t even try to fix it.

What an absurd take. He traded Barrie for Kadri did he not? Blame that moron for sabotaging the team. I just find it absurd people go off on a tangent and post narratives that have no ties to reality. And the whole sleepy Joe narrative is just hilarious, if people want to complain at least complain with some validity to your claim, he continually tried to make the team better and adds to it, he also tried getting big fish, but those players choose other teams. If there's one thing to criticize him for is being too afraid to lose a trade, I feel like he is too concerned with maximizing his assets.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

It’s hard to be mad at Joe Sakic for the job he’s done overall but there’s plenty of reason to question how he handled the trade deadline this year. Nearly 10M in cap space for a team that had JT Compher and Val Nichushkin both in his playoff top 6 and his deadline acquisitions were Soderberg and Nemeth. I consider it a complete failure.

 

[AvsCOL]

It’s hard to be mad at Joe Sakic for the job he’s done overall but there’s plenty of reason to question how he handled the trade deadline this year. Nearly 10M in cap space for a team that had JT Compher and Val Nichushkin both in his playoff top 6 and his deadline acquisitions were Soderberg and Nemeth. I consider it a complete failure.

One guy sat in the press box, and the other was a direct cause of at least 3 goals in the second round… and should have been in the press box

Sakic went shopping in the bargain bin instead of really making a push. Look what the Islanders did at the deadline, and look where they’re currently at.

 

[Ararana]

Sakic is responsible for bringing in Nemeth, but Bednar is responsible for keeping him in the lineup which is the bigger f*** up IMO. When the Nemeth trade went down the majority of this board was underwhelmed but generally okay with the move.

I wish Sakic was better on deadline day but it's clear the guy just doesn't believe in giving up big assets for expiring UFAs, even in a cup contending year. It's probably something the fanbase is going to have to accept. At least he's good in almost all other areas.

 

[Islay1989]

It’s hard to be mad at Joe Sakic for the job he’s done overall but there’s plenty of reason to question how he handled the trade deadline this year. Nearly 10M in cap space for a team that had JT Compher and Val Nichushkin both in his playoff top 6 and his deadline acquisitions were Soderberg and Nemeth. I consider it a complete failure.

Yeah, and that's what I'm referring to when I say that he's afraid of losing a deal. In order to get players you want you have to overpay at times. He seems to be gun shy when in situations like that. he'll have no problem getting players on the cheap after targeting them for a while, but risking at the deadline and trading valuable assets seems to be against his MO, which proved to be debilitating in the last two runs. He is risk-averse to the point where his nature actually plays into having no redundancies on the roster. When Kadri was in and playing well we golden, but there was no contingency plan.

 

[SoftMittsHardSticks]

One thing that you can almost bank on is that the Avs make a trade or two to get back some picks in this upcoming draft. There's no way Sakic goes into the draft with just a 1st, 3rd, and 7th round pick