Rumor: 2020-21 Trade Rumours and FA Part VIII: Intra-Playoff Edition?

[The Kingslayer]

Yeah, it wouldn’t be a good value trade for Colorado, but I really like Suzuki.

I have to imagine Suzuki is close to being an untouchable for them unless Eichel is part of a deal to go there which I had a dream about that happening a few months ago lol.

 

[PowerMac]

They are ready to draft Powers and they have Dahlin. Think he will settle for Girard + 1st ++ ? Jack has to have a list of teams he wont go to correct? If Joe can swing this deal without having to give up Bo or Newhook it would be hilarious.

For Eich, I'd include Newhook. Would be a lot of fun to watch even if they don't the cup.

 

[dahrougem2]

They are ready to draft Powers and they have Dahlin. Think he will settle for Girard + 1st ++ ? Jack has to have a list of teams he wont go to correct? If Joe can swing this deal without having to give up Bo or Newhook it would be hilarious.

Eichel doesn't have any trade protection. They've got Dahlin on the left side and Owen Power likely getting drafted so who knows if they'd want Girard as the centrepiece. One can dream, though.

 

[Balthazar]

If you're paying that price, it's gotta be for someone more established. You can probably add another piece or 2 maybe 1st rounder and get Eichel for that

Montreal wouldn't trade Suzuki anyway.

I assure you Montreal has noooooo interest in Sammy G. None. He is precisely the type of d-man they don’t like. They strictly prohibit their blueliners from jumping into the play.

Jeff Petry and Erik Gustafsson exist.

 

[Arto Kilponen]

Would this be a good place to ask how Saad-Makar-Landeskog-Grubauer-SalaryCap equation will work out?

 

[Hasbro]

Faksa still an option?

Doubt he ever was.

 

[Miri]

Would this be a good place to ask how Saad-Makar-Landeskog-Grubauer-SalaryCap equation will work out?

all of them sign for cheap, cause they want to win it with Avs. That leaves money for Eichel and then some. Easy peazy

 

[Andrew Wiggin]

I think Sakic will be willing to make some pretty big changes after this. He remade the second line after it was apparent that what we had wouldn't cut it. Now it is looking somewhat the same so I don't think he'd shy away from it. We are going to stick with the core, but I think it opens up from there. One of the burning questions is do you trade defense to shore up the 2C spot?

Landeskog - MacKinnon - Rantanen
Left Wing 2 - Center 2 - Right Wing 2
Nichushkin - Jost - O'Connor
Ranta/Bowers - Newhook - Kaut/Foudy

Byram - Makar
Toews - Right D 2
Left D 3 - Timmins

Goalie 1
Francois

This way you are changing things anymore than Sakic did a couple years ago. The ideal outcome:

Left Wing 2: Saad. Alt: Coleman, RNH, Hall
Center 2: Couturier. Alt: Hertl, Reinhart
Right Wing 2: Hyman. Alt: Reinhart, Bura
Right D 2: Carlo. Alt: Larsson, Johnson
Left D 3: Oleksiak. Alt: MacDonald, Graves

7th D: Hakanpaa

You resign Saad so really you are only bringing in 4 new starters. Couturier will need a pretty decent package built around Girard. For Carlo, something around Kadri or Burakovsky. Carlo might be done the same way we thought Timmins was and Johnson probably is so you bring in Hakanpaa as insurance with him and Timmins taking that bottom right side or just bring in Larsson. Goalie 1 will depend on the cap and what Grubauer wants for a contract.

 

[Arto Kilponen]

I think Sakic will be willing to make some pretty big changes after this. He remade the second line after it was apparent that what we had wouldn't cut it. Now it is looking somewhat the same so I don't think he'd shy away from it. We are going to stick with the core, but I think it opens up from there. One of the burning questions is do you trade defense to shore up the 2C spot?

Landeskog - MacKinnon - Rantanen
Left Wing 2 - Center 2 - Right Wing 2
Nichushkin - Jost - O'Connor
Ranta/Bowers - Newhook - Kaut/Foudy

Byram - Makar
Toews - Right D 2
Left D 3 - Timmins

Goalie 1
Francois

This way you are changing things anymore than Sakic did a couple years ago. The ideal outcome:

Left Wing 2: Saad. Alt: Coleman, RNH, Hall
Center 2: Couturier. Alt: Hertl, Reinhart
Right Wing 2: Hyman. Alt: Reinhart, Bura
Right D 2: Carlo. Alt: Larsson, Johnson
Left D 3: Oleksiak. Alt: MacDonald, Graves

7th D: Hakanpaa

You resign Saad so really you are only bringing in 4 new starters. Couturier will need a pretty decent package built around Girard. For Carlo, something around Kadri or Burakovsky. Carlo might be done the same way we thought Timmins was and Johnson probably is so you bring in Hakanpaa as insurance with him and Timmins taking that bottom right side or just bring in Larsson. Goalie 1 will depend on the cap and what Grubauer wants for a contract.

Saad is out of contract, so he really can't resign.

I don't think Hakkis wants to be a 7th d-man after he has played 17 minutes or so per game.

If Byram isn't good enough to knock out Nemeth from lineup, he definitely won't overtake the #1 TOI player either.

 

[Andrew Wiggin]

Saad is out of contract, so he really can't resign.

I don't think Hakkis wants to be a 7th d-man after he has played 17 minutes or so per game.

If Byram isn't good enough to knock out Nemeth from lineup, he definitely won't overtake the #1 TOI player either.

#1 semantics but sure resign, or sign. #2 yeah definitely fair, I guess it could be hoped that Barron can provide insurance there if he is in the AHL. #3, huh? Not sure if you are serious, did you watch him play during the year, and if he isn't completely ready then swap him and Toews because he was already playing more than Girard.

 

[Balthazar]

Everyone outside of Colorado will try to fix our defense and goaltending now

 

[Arto Kilponen]

#1 semantics but sure resign, or sign. #2 yeah definitely fair, I guess it could be hoped that Barron can provide insurance there if he is in the AHL. #3, huh? Not sure if you are serious, did you watch him play during the year, and if he isn't completely ready then swap him and Toews because he was already playing more than Girard.

Byram didn't play a single second in playoffs, so he didn't play more than Girard. I watched Toews more closely than anyone else and honestly, if there would be six devontoews on the team, Avs would have easily won against Vegas the second round. There's very few players that did their part well against Vegas and Toews is one of them. Saad is another. Anyone else?

Resign and sign are opposites of each other. Resign means that you get rid of the contract "fire yourself" (politicians does that, I think Steve Konowalchuk did this is 2005-06 or thereabouts) and sign is like making a new contract.

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

Everyone outside of Colorado will try to fix our defense and goaltending now

Interesting that he says he wants to go to Colorado. I don’t know if he has any inside info, or is speculating.

The Jones/Merzlikins package is definitely an intriguing potential deal to look into this off-season. They mention LA as a potential suitor for Jones and I think that makes a lot of sense. They have the assets to make it happen, it just depends on what CBJ wants.

I still think the Avs are better off using their high-end assets on a centre. If they’d like to add a top-4 RHD, there are cheaper options available that will work fine.

 

[Balthazar]

Interesting that he says he wants to go to Colorado. I don’t know if he has any inside info, or is speculating.

When he said that Jones wants to go to Colorado, the way I understand it is "if I'm Jones I want to go in Colorado, win the cup and then hit the UFA market when teams are starting to make money again".

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

I do wonder if this is the off-season where we see Sakic make an all-in move.

They were in on Panarin and couldn’t get him, and they were rumoured to be big fish hunting at the deadline. Maybe Sakic just says, ‘f*** it’ and overpays to get a really big piece.

 

[Andrew Wiggin]

Byram didn't play a single second in playoffs, so he didn't play more than Girard. I watched Toews more closely than anyone else and honestly, if there would be six devontoews on the team, Avs would have easily won against Vegas the second round. There's very few players that did their part well against Vegas and Toews is one of them. Saad is another. Anyone else?

Resign and sign are opposites of each other. Resign means that you get rid of the contract "fire yourself" (politicians does that, I think Steve Konowalchuk did this is 2005-06 or thereabouts) and sign is like making a new contract.

I agree, Toews looks just fine on the top line but I think eventually you want Byram there and even though he is not better than Toews or Girard now I think he will be as soon as next year. While he didn't play in the playoffs we've seen him at the NHL level so its not like it's a complete unknown.

As far as the second part here I'll fix it "re-sign." It still seems like a waste of time and semantics to correct grammar when 99 out of 100 people would know what you mean when you say resign in regards to a player when talking about the roster on a sports message board.

 

[Nihiliste]

Unfortunately there’s no way we can make many of these ideas work under the cap. I do think if you can somehow get Jones and Elvis to replace G and Gru, you’ve probably made a lateral move in net and upgraded the D for playoff time. Gru’s glove is a big problem in a 7 game series

 

[myperbixhurts]

Jones to Colorado would be awesome and would make tons of sense too

 

[Balthazar]

I'm not swapping G for 2 pending UFA's, that's for sure.

Especially not to Columbus where G and his contract would have tremendous value. They surely can't get great young players like him to sign cheap long term contracts like that.

More pieces would have to be involved from both sides.

Also I know there's a lot of love for him around here but Elvis isn't a proven playoff goalie.

 

[Avs_19]

Everyone outside of Colorado will try to fix our defense and goaltending now

Exciting times that'll likely set us up for disappointment again like with every other big name the Avs get connected to in free agency and the trade market.

Kyper says the Avs will be the #1 bidder for Jones and he apparently wants to go there. MacLean adds that him wanting to go to the Avs/Stars has been around for years. I believe it has also been reported and maybe even confirmed that Sakic wanted to take Jones over MacKinnon in the draft so obviously he's a big fan. Most importantly, there's the CBJ connection!

Yeah, it's all definitely adding up for some disappointment when Jones ends up in the division with the Stars/Hawks.

 

[dahrougem2]

Eichel > Jones for trade targets.

Just buck up and pay what Buffalo wants. We have our defensive corps set up for the future with Makar/Byram/Toews. Timmins is showing promise. The veteran in EJ is still kicking around for like 30% of the time. MacNorris is here if Seattle doesn't snag him.

Build the package around Girard and Newhook, and do whatever the **** it takes to make things work. Eichel can play with less skilled hockey players and make his line go, he's such a smart high IQ player that this team would be wise to add. Plus he slows EVERYTHING down on the ice, especially the PP. When's the last time we had a player like that? ****ing bootleg Perron in P.A. Parenteau?

Make it so, Joe. Tell Naz he can play 3C and take his annual playoff suspension or ask for a trade elsewhere. **** that guy.

Tell me you wouldn't love an Avs PP that featured:

------------Landeskog

Eichel------MacKinnon-------Rantanen

-------------Makar

MacKinnon could play the Brayden Point role instead of on the half wall, and since Eichel is a better playmaker he would be perfect there along with having a great shot of his own.

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

Unfortunately there’s no way we can make many of these ideas work under the cap. I do think if you can somehow get Jones and Elvis to replace G and Gru, you’ve probably made a lateral move in net and upgraded the D for playoff time. Gru’s glove is a big problem in a 7 game series

If they’re going to re-tool a little bit in the off-season I think it makes sense to dump some salary.

Graves, EJ, and Donskoi are guys who could either be taken in expansion, or moved. The good thing about the Avs situation right now is EJ is really the only guy with salary that would be hard to move.

They need to create permanent roster spots for Newhook, LOC, and probably one of Kaut/Ranta too.

 

[Avaholic29]

Jones would be our Pietrangelo but younger and going to be better. Pietro was Vegas best player in my opinion and made a huge difference in their play compared to last year

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

Eichel > Jones for trade targets.

Just buck up and pay what Buffalo wants. We have our defensive corps set up for the future with Makar/Byram/Toews. Timmins is showing promise. The veteran in EJ is still kicking around for like 30% of the time. MacNorris is here if Seattle doesn't snag him.

Build the package around Girard and Newhook, and do whatever the **** it takes to make things work. Eichel can play with less skilled hockey players and make his line go, he's such a smart high IQ player that this team would be wise to add. Plus he slows EVERYTHING down on the ice, especially the PP. When's the last time we had a player like that? ****ing bootleg Perron in P.A. Parenteau?

Make it so, Joe. Tell Naz he can play 3C and take his annual playoff suspension or ask for a trade elsewhere. **** that guy.

Tell me you wouldn't love an Avs PP that featured:

------------Landeskog

Eichel------MacKinnon-------Rantanen

-------------Makar

MacKinnon could play the Brayden Point role instead of on the half wall, and since Eichel is a better playmaker he would be perfect there along with having a great shot of his own.

It’d be a dream for sure, but I think that dream was sunk when Buffalo landed the number one pick. You have to think they’ll want a forward as the major piece in return for Eichel now.

I would definitely overpay to land Eichel though as long as MacK, Mak, and Rants aren’t in the deal.

 

[PAZ]

I do wonder if this is the off-season where we see Sakic make an all-in move.

They were in on Panarin and couldn’t get him, and they were rumoured to be big fish hunting at the deadline. Maybe Sakic just says, ‘f*** it’ and overpays to get a really big piece.

Naw Sakic goes ‘y’know, you just gotta stop thinking and, f*** it, just gotta win it and not think that much’. Then the other GM hangs up because he sounds like he’s off his meds but in reality he spun the roulette table and landed on trading Mack for scraps.