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Why are we talking about getting a 2 C? Unless it's a one year replacement if Avs want to trade Kadri next year, I don't see a need for 2 C. Kadri will be gone after next year and Newhook should be ready to take over 2C
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MarkT
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A lot of people don't want to see Kadri back next year as the 2C after his play down the stretch and his recent suspension. It's a very reasonably position.
And if he goes, we need a replacement unless anyone thinks Jost is ready to take on that role.
Also, assuming Newhook is going to be the 2C is the same kind of thinking that led to the Avs not getting a true 2C because this will finally be the year Jost/Compher emerge and take on that role.
If we can sign Danault then trade Kadri for actual assets, that is fantastic because we are currently lacking a true shutdown center in our lineup, and I don't see one in the pipeline. He would fill a need for us whether he was playing 2C or 3C. He's also a guy we know can hold down the 1C role if MacKinnon gets hurt, because he's been the 1C in Montreal for years. Having a guy like Danault would also allow us to ease Newhook in and not give him minutes he's not ready for. I would not even be shocked if Newhook spends more time in the AHL next season.
And if he goes, we need a replacement unless anyone thinks Jost is ready to take on that role.
Also, assuming Newhook is going to be the 2C is the same kind of thinking that led to the Avs not getting a true 2C because this will finally be the year Jost/Compher emerge and take on that role.
If we can sign Danault then trade Kadri for actual assets, that is fantastic because we are currently lacking a true shutdown center in our lineup, and I don't see one in the pipeline. He would fill a need for us whether he was playing 2C or 3C. He's also a guy we know can hold down the 1C role if MacKinnon gets hurt, because he's been the 1C in Montreal for years. Having a guy like Danault would also allow us to ease Newhook in and not give him minutes he's not ready for. I would not even be shocked if Newhook spends more time in the AHL next season.
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I dont think Avs are gonna get rid of Kadri based on that dirty hit and suspension. Remember Lemieux on Draper? No one traded Claude after that. It was a dirty hit, worse than Kadri and it actually started the whole Avs Wings rivalry
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Belgican
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Sure but is it realistic ? Danault wants too much for a 3C. And I can’t see Jost as a 4C anymore, more as a 3C
Danault ain't comin' to Colorado, and frankly I don't think he should.
I'll be interested to see where he ends up. Will the Habs just finally cave and give him what he wants? I don't think he cares a ton about being a 3C or not a 3C, he just wants a prominent role and money. Montreal can give him both. Otherwise...maybe Edmonton? That would sure help shore up the Oilers' defensive issues, but doesn't really address the lack of scoring depth there.
I'll be interested to see where he ends up. Will the Habs just finally cave and give him what he wants? I don't think he cares a ton about being a 3C or not a 3C, he just wants a prominent role and money. Montreal can give him both. Otherwise...maybe Edmonton? That would sure help shore up the Oilers' defensive issues, but doesn't really address the lack of scoring depth there.
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Would be a smart move by Seattle to go after him. They won't have elite offensive talent at center so they might as well go for elite defensive talent. They have the cap space and all that stuff.
Neither do I, but Kenny has the cap room this offseason to make a move like that. And that gives them the perfect guy to slot in as either a 2C or 3C, depending on what they want to do with Draisaitl. They get him and they finally address the goaltending issue properly...look out.
Avs_19
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Avs already have their version of Patrick and he wears #17.
I guess I wouldn’t be opposed depending on the price but where does he play and what’s the point?
I guess I wouldn’t be opposed depending on the price but where does he play and what’s the point?
Freudian
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I can see the upside of Patrick, but when the window is wide open it's a huge gamble to count on an injury ridden young player fill an important slot.
If we can get him relatively cheap and have MacKinnon-Kadri-Jost down the middle and Patrick would be a bonus if he could unseat one of them, that's another matter.
If we can get him relatively cheap and have MacKinnon-Kadri-Jost down the middle and Patrick would be a bonus if he could unseat one of them, that's another matter.
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Newhook’s going to play next year. They’re already wasting one year of his ELC this year.
Maybe he gets a few games in the ‘A’, but any long period of time would really surprise me.
He's worth the gamble. If Patrick was playing to his potential or even close to his potential he wouldn't be available. I have faith that if Patrick cam here, he'd comfortably put up at least 40 points.
If we can get him for a similar price as Bennett, I'd do it in a heartbeat.
dahrougem2
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If Holland has any sense whatsoever he'll let RNH walk and sign Danault. Nuge is a winger through and through now, he's going to be the next Matt Duchene in his transformation from centre to wing. He can't play centre to save his life anymore, so much so Tippett in the do-or-die game had him on the 2nd line wing with Ryan McLeod playing centre.
There's still some real confusion here, including amongst the know-it-alls in Altitude and Mike Chambers--the ELC was burned no matter what, so them choosing to play him isn't any sort of indicator as to how much they value him. That said, the fact that he was used as a 2nd line center and took a lot of key defensive zone faceoffs when there were still meaningful games left to be played is the strongest indicator so far just how much they value him.
I agree that there is still cause for concern, but he's managed to play this entire season.
However, I'm a big believer in young players just needing the right environment and change of scenery to get back to where they were. Players like Puljujarvi, Bennett, etc. that were once highly touted but had a harder time adjusting to the NHL or were simply misused. There are some exceptions where they just aren't that good (i.e. Yakupov, Dal Colle, Juolevi), but if Patrick can overcome his injuries, it's worth the gamble. I have more faith in Patrick having a higher impact than a player like Kaut/Bowers/Foudy/Helleson + 2nd/3rd.
The Kingslayer
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I would be shocked if he sees a second of ice time in the A next year if hes healthy. If its for a conditioning stint for some reason fine but if hes healthy I be shocked.
Northern Avs Fan
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I’m just saying that this is year one of his ELC. I don’t see them only taking advantage on one full season of play on his ELC.
Avs_19
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Agreed. Either he's conditioning or something went very wrong if he ever plays in the AHL again.
The Kingslayer
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Yah he wants 2C money while putting up 3C numbers. I like Danault a lot but his lack of goal scoring would concern me a lot as the Avs 2C. If he wants to be the Avs 3C I would love it
TruePowerSlave
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Some of these options suck
Danault wants to get paid like a legit #2C. He isn't that good though and the Avs cannot afford that contract.
Nolan Patrick has shown very little except that he cannot be trusted to stay healthy. Hard pass.
Just keep Kadri and let him walk after the season is done. Most likely he will have a solid season as it is his contract year after all.
Danault wants to get paid like a legit #2C. He isn't that good though and the Avs cannot afford that contract.
Nolan Patrick has shown very little except that he cannot be trusted to stay healthy. Hard pass.
Just keep Kadri and let him walk after the season is done. Most likely he will have a solid season as it is his contract year after all.
shadow1
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Danault makes no sense for the Avalanche.
Colorado's bread and butter is finding young players and getting more out of them by placing them into bigger roles. Not signing 29-year-old UFA's to six-year deals* that promise to age like milk.
*It has been widely reported that Danault turned down a 6 year, $30M contract offer from Montreal.
Colorado's bread and butter is finding young players and getting more out of them by placing them into bigger roles. Not signing 29-year-old UFA's to six-year deals* that promise to age like milk.
*It has been widely reported that Danault turned down a 6 year, $30M contract offer from Montreal.
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He’s still not very feasible with the Avalanche’s depth chart and the impending raises, particularly MacKinnon.Debunked.
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