Speculation: 2020-21 News/Rumors/Roster Thread Part III
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bland
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Ziggy Stardust
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I'm more concerned with how the team is performing and whether or not we're seeing improved play from them. After a month into the season, we haven't seen that yet. It's also a really difficult season to assess where they're at given all the challenges just to get to a season, and with the shortened camps with no preseason.
I guess it would be more prudent to gauge where they're at each month. A quick analysis of the first month of action offers little takeaways, other than the fact that they're a struggling team trying to find an identity.
I guess it would be more prudent to gauge where they're at each month. A quick analysis of the first month of action offers little takeaways, other than the fact that they're a struggling team trying to find an identity.
Hell No on DeAngelo. I don't want him anywhere near the younger players on the team.
Edit to add: I think I read somewhere (not sure how reliable) some rumblings that Lias Andersson was not happy with the culture of bullying on the Rangers. Something tells me that DeAngelo may have played a part in that.
If there's a chance that's true, I don't want him around Andersson either.
Edit to add: I think I read somewhere (not sure how reliable) some rumblings that Lias Andersson was not happy with the culture of bullying on the Rangers. Something tells me that DeAngelo may have played a part in that.
If there's a chance that's true, I don't want him around Andersson either.
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BigKing
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Pretty sure he never said that they would make the playoffs but rather the goal was to make the playoffs.
My response would be to listen to his words but then see his actions and tell me which one is more telling.
kilowatt
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Out of curiosity, has anyone else noticed a drop in quality on LAKingsInsider? Not trying to harp, it just seems like there isn't even an article review process. First draft, final draft kind of deal. It's almost a stream-of-consciousness blog at this point. It'll be like:
In his postgame interview, McLellan noted that the Kings needed to increase their intensity in order to be successful.
"The team needs to increase their intensity in order to be successful", said McLellan.
This is perhaps hyperbole, but here's an example of a real quote:
That's not a copy/paste error on my part, that's directly from the site.
I don't know, it feels like I'm cobbling together information from Dooley, Dillman, and Hoven. I know it's weird with COVID and stuff, but it seems now more than ever is time for excellent reporting.
In his postgame interview, McLellan noted that the Kings needed to increase their intensity in order to be successful.
"The team needs to increase their intensity in order to be successful", said McLellan.
This is perhaps hyperbole, but here's an example of a real quote:
That's not a copy/paste error on my part, that's directly from the site.
I don't know, it feels like I'm cobbling together information from Dooley, Dillman, and Hoven. I know it's weird with COVID and stuff, but it seems now more than ever is time for excellent reporting.
Lt Dan
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I would say that in the games without Maata, the team was looking better.
Anderson and Grundstrom have definitely improved a little game by game. I can't say the same for Andersson tho.
Wagner has consistently been the suck
Vilardi has been super inconsistent, but he is also still technically a rookie
I think Covid and injuries have made it hard for this team to find it's groove. Walker and MacD were out early with it and now AA and Lizotte are out, not to mention injuries to Roy and Walker.
Lt Dan
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We were blessed to have Hammond and then Rosen. There has absolutely been a drop in quality
tny760
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yeah i mean there's absolutely some nails sticking out that need to be hammered, but i feel like a lot of people on here are totally ready to blow this team up 9 games into the season that aren't really grasping the idea of a rebuild. NHL coaches are gonna be like any other boss in this regard, you can't just shitcan everyone and call up the farm because you had a bad day. they're gonna have to justify sending kids up and down and you can't do that off small samples. i forget who it was, willie maybe that referred to "10 game" chunks of the season for evaluation
i just don't see a ton of solutions in-house to these problems besides "f***in play better" and i think tmac said about as much last night. i don't want to mortgage futures for a bandaid on a gushing wound when we can just let them play, insulate the youth as best as possible, and see who sinks and swims. there's a number of players on this team right now who appear to be drowning. that's good information to get right now instead of a season or two from now when being competitive may be a reality
vets NEED to be better and that's my biggest problem with what i see right now. kopi line consistently has to be the best line on the ice, doughty can't afford to be cute. those guys have to be anchors, they're certainly being paid like it.
tny760
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i've basically stopped reading it. dooley's twitter seems to be the most efficient way for me to get information at the moment, i just expect much less.
hammond and rosen were strong, engaging writers. i think corporate has a bit too much of a hand in the site right now
kilowatt
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I could not agree more. Not only do the veterans on this team have to be the best players, they have to be the safest players. What concerns me is that McLellan's been here over a year and I'm honestly not sure what system we have in place. You would expect things like breakouts to be automatic at this point, if not in practice then in theory. From what I can tell, the only thing we've really mastered is "defensemen should pinch hard". We all knew this year would be a really rough year and growing pains were expected. I was just expecting them from our young players like Vilardi and Anderson, not Iafallo and Doughty. It should be the veterans covering for the rookies' mistakes, not the other way around.
Anguyen92
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Yes, they were. When Rosen was posting an article on the Insider Twitter, I was reading most of it, because I would think he would have a fair assessment of what was going on at the time. Nowadays, I just don't bother at all clicking the articles for whatever reason.
tny760
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exactly
as far as systems, the defenseman activation definitely seems to be a big thing (when we actually can take the zone) but man these breakouts... seems like any first man puck pressure just ends the chance of a breakout. hard to say why that is through the TV because of how they zoom in on the defenseman, but is it because the defenseman isn't making the pass or is it because the forwards are just skating ahead without making themselves available? super f***in frustrating either way, not helped by doughty skating into traffic then just winging a blind backhand D to D pass and forcing everyone to reset. there's gotta be a plan B there right? are we that disjointed that we don't even know when plan A has failed and we have to do something else?
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Anguyen92
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Is this the kind of stuff that the Kings twitter feed would make public or would we need to look elsewhere? I thought he was with the Flyers now for some reason. I know he was with us as an assistant GM during the 2012 Cup run and during the lean years around 2006 or so, but that was as far I can tell.
kilowatt
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He's been with LA since 2019 as an Advisor to Hockey Operations. You can see it officially in the Kings' 2021 Media Guide or the Staff Directory. There was an article on LA Kings Insider about it a while back as well.
Hoven and Bernstein have stepped up and have good Kings info. If you follow both of them on Twitter you don’t need to check lakingsinsider anymore.
FYI a friend of mine who is a local goalie and plays pick up all over LA knows the surgeon who did Walker’s surgery. Major reconstruction. Feel bad for the kid; hope he recovers....
Lt Dan
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Dooley may not be the cat’s meow, and his style with puns and whatnot can be grating at times... but let me tell you, if he is the least-common-denominator, it’s all good by me.
Compared to the random contributors they had from marketing and operations... he is fricking Hemingway!
He is punctual with posts, so that’s a bonus.
Yeah, figures. It looked bad in the photos.
Lisa Dillman said “nose” but it sure looked like the sinus got crunched, and those shatter nasty. Real tricky to fix and recovery is not fast.
Peter James Bond III
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Yes...he blocked me on his Twitter in November 2018, when he was tweeting that the Kings were probably going to be sellers at the 2019 deadline and that he was saying
'expect this return for ____' and his prospective deal for Carter was "expect this return for Carter; a #1 + top level prospect' and I responded if the Kings were adding the #1, with Carter
to get the top level prospect, because he lost his speed, was 34 and about 3 more years on his contract and was now also easy to play against. And I was blocked. I had a few other ones, mixed in that he could not deal with. Months later, he was closer to being in reality and knew there was not going to be a good offer, anywhere.
The annoying things are his extreme strange fascination for numbers and telling you who wore 19 before Butch Goring and showing off his In N Out
claim tickets with his number and what King it matches, or some other historical thing his number means, OR about what will happen next game...and the other bizarre naming of scrimmage teams after obscure former Kings from the 80s like Team Ahola vs Team Peter Prasjler. or Igor Liba. I came up with the latter 2, cuz I know all those players too...but don't create ways in which to use their names for anything. He also talks twice as fast as any normal human and it's just too fast - even if you can take it all in.
edit: how can i forget? ..."have you read up? here's your reading assignment" and worse, if it's an article from 1.5 years ago, and that player he's talking about today, he refers to you to read the 1.5 year old article to read as well.
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As soon as we all saw that it was a given and I said it on the GDT. Hoping for a quick recovery wow that's a shame.
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