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Speculation: 2020-21 LA Kings News/Rumors/Roster Discussion Part II

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Mats26 said:
RNH resigns with the Oilers looks like 5 million per for 8 years.
These higher end UFAs probably want term.
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Put it in the around the league thread. I think he could have gotten $41 M over 6 years with a NMC as a UFA. This deal is great for the Oilers.
 
Mats26 said:
Your not getting Mike Richards for only a young roster player and scraps.
You can also argue that we overpaided for Richards. Eithier way, we used high valued assets to bring a player that lead us to our first cup. That trade doesn't happen with mid tier players\prospects.
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Yeah, but Schenn was the 5th overall pick. Not like the Kings developed him. He was naturally better than his teenage peers.

Mats26 said:
RNH resigns with the Oilers looks like 5 million per for 8 years.
These higher end UFAs probably want term.
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They want money, but in a hard cap league, you don't usually get the big money without the term as the team wants a lower hit. If he could get $40m in 4 years, he would've done that instead.
 
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Schenn was one of the top ranked forward prospects in the game at the time of the deal.

Simmonds was already a better offensive player than the declining Richards.

It was a terrible trade.
 
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Not a really a legit source, more of food for thought. FWIW, this account has made a few claims that turned out to be validated by Elliot Friedman's 31 thoughts days later. If I am Rob Blake, I am willing to make 1 risky addition to the lineup this offseason, sometimes you just gotta take risks to improve (Justin Williams, Willie Mitchell, etc. 2 years remaining at $7.5 Million, at worst you LTIR him if he keeps getting hurt. At best, you get Kopitar an elite winger. And with that cap hit, he won't be very expensive.
 
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The Lukeman said:


Not a really a legit source, more of food for thought. FWIW, this account has made a few claims that turned out to be validated by Elliot Friedman's 31 thoughts days later. If I am Rob Blake, I am willing to make 1 risky addition to the lineup this offseason, sometimes you just gotta take risks to improve (Justin Williams, Willie Mitchell, etc. 2 years remaining at $7.5 Million, at worst you LTIR him if he keeps getting hurt. At best, you get Kopitar an elite winger. And with that cap hit, he won't be very expensive.
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he has been talked about and I think makes some sense for LA. Hi injury history is a big red flag for me though. So the acquisition cost would have to be very very low.

Getting rid of his cap hit would be good for St Louis, and LA can take it on for two years. Honestly do not know where to start.
 
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YP44 said:
he has been talked about and I think makes some sense for LA. Hi injury history is a big red flag for me though. So the acquisition cost would have to be very very low.

Getting rid of his cap hit would be good for St Louis, and LA can take it on for two years. Honestly do not know where to start.
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8 oa Walker Gunderson and kempe
 
As long as Tarasenko doesn't cost anything, it would at least be an interesting acquisition. Thought the same of Kovalchuk, and if nothing else the saga was interesting. Certainly more entertaining than the team itself.

Richards filled an immediate need, but that deal was on the razor's edge of being a disaster. Even after the deal, on the ice, the team still wasn't good enough. It's a win/win today because of the Cups, and maybe even on the day of because it grabbed headlines, but it could've been a rough one. It was heading toward that.

No Cup in 2012, likely meaning nothing in 2014, and he breaks down within a couple years? With that contract? Would've been bought out in that scenario, but that's banking on a lockout and free buyouts a couple years later. If that goes bad, DL probably isn't around to do Lucic.
 
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Tarasenko has a full NTC. He'd have to waive it to come to LA.

Maybe he likes the beach.
 
johnjm22 said:
Tarasenko has a full NTC. He'd have to waive it to come to LA.

Maybe he likes the beach.
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if he pigeon holds the blues into only going to one team it should lower the acquisition cost.

No way I would pay large amount for him. Hell, I could be convinced that it makes more sense to let montreal pay LA to take Drouin than pay to get Tarasenko.
 
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The Lukeman said:


Not a really a legit source, more of food for thought. FWIW, this account has made a few claims that turned out to be validated by Elliot Friedman's 31 thoughts days later. If I am Rob Blake, I am willing to make 1 risky addition to the lineup this offseason, sometimes you just gotta take risks to improve (Justin Williams, Willie Mitchell, etc. 2 years remaining at $7.5 Million, at worst you LTIR him if he keeps getting hurt. At best, you get Kopitar an elite winger. And with that cap hit, he won't be very expensive.
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Yeah I agree. I would imagine they might even pay us to take on that contract?


It is a viable route for the Kings to pick up low cost/negative value players (due to contract or injury concerns). And Tarasenko with two years left and some upside is an ideal acquisition if that's what we decide to do.

We could pair a move like that with maybe adding a couple more players on short term contracts say Alec Martinez, and maybe sign Schwartz/Hoffman. Make sure we keep those contracts at three years or less.

Brown, Carter, and Maata (12 mil) come off the book next year, Quick, Tarasenko and Phaneuf in two years (14 mil)

We would have the money to resign guys like Kempe, Petersen, JAD, Vilardi, Mikey Anderson. And a ton of cap space when our prospect pool comes off their ELCs.

It would at least give us the potential to compete in the short term if everything worked out, without sacrificing any of our future. Basically low risk/high reward
 
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Tarasenko used to be one of my favorite non-kings. He was so dangerous with the puck on his stick. Always way underrated. Hes lost a step or two but could still put up points next to a guy like Kopitar.
Barzal has taken his place as my favorite non-King. Underrated for how dangerous he is.
Fiala is the poor mans Barzal and would be a great pickup also. Lots of good names rumored to be available this season and the Kings are in the best position in the league with cap and assets.
 
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YP44 said:
if he pigeon holds the blues into only going to one team it should lower the acquisition cost.

No way I would pay large amount for him. Hell, I could be convinced that it makes more sense to let montreal pay LA to take Drouin than pay to get Tarasenko.
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I actually think his cost is going to be pretty low regardless. Cap space is at an absolute premium right now, and no one want's to take on 7.5M for a guy whose health is extremely questionable.

He's played 34 games in the last 2 years, and turns 30 this season.

But yes, the NTC probably just makes him even cheaper.
 
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Henrique is a solid 20g/40pts guy. He's signed for 3 more years at 5.8M.

I realize 5.8M is a little high for what he brings, but he's still a good top 6 forward. The Ducks couldn't even give him away for free. No takers.

That shows you how tight things are around the league.

Even if the Blues retain, no contending team can afford to dedicate 5M+ on a very risky player like Tarasenko.

Blues are probably just better off holding on to him and hoping he recovers.
 
johnjm22 said:
Schenn was one of the top ranked forward prospects in the game at the time of the deal.

Simmonds was already a better offensive player than the declining Richards.

It was a terrible trade.
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Not the way he was used here. His game changed when he went to Philly and he was never that player here.

I'll take that deal 10 days out of 10 day, just for the impact it had.He brought credibility and leadership to a pretty young group. We don't win either cup without that move.
 
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johnjm22 said:
I actually think his cost is going to be pretty low regardless. Cap space is at an absolute premium right now, and no one want's to take on 7.5M for a guy whose health is extremely questionable.

He's played 34 games in the last 2 years, and turns 30 this season.

But yes, the NTC probably just makes him even cheaper.
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Maybe could even make it a package with Vince Dunn and we add some value with a pick or prospect. Might solve 2 issues with 1 trade. LA's D-core minus Doughty scored a combined 9 goals this year. Vince Dunn scored 6.

Also another idea while we are on the topic of D scoring, Shane Gostisbehere scored 9 goals this year, which would match our non doughty D-core and is very much available. Don't understand why we didn't grab him, was only a -2 on a trainwreck in Philly.
 
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Another consideration is that Tarasenko's real actual salary this year is 9.5M.
 
kinghock said:
You cannot be serious.
It should not be more than 2round pick.
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Not to mention...this team's biggest hole is scoring and we are going to give up one of the only up-and -coming players we have that actually provides scoring?
 
bland said:
Forget the Cups, the team never even gets out of the first round without that trade.
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They weren't even going to make the playoffs with that trade.

Richards is one of the most overrated players of his generation.

I know you like that type of player. But the Kings overvalued him.
 
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