Prospect Info: 2020-2021 Senators Prospect Watch

[Burrowsaurus]

Got a link?

 

[Wallet Inspector]

lol first Bader now this dude. What's with people dumping on Stutzle at 3rd overall?

 

[BondraTime]

Lol. These are the same people that had stutzle that high while nhl lists had him in the mid to late teens lol. They had stutzle inside the top 5-10 before anyone else.

Who had Stutzle top 5 prior to the start of the year? He was pretty much unanimously there once he started the year on a close to point per game streak over the first month of the season in September

 

[Alf Silfversson]

My goodness, that guy annoys the f*** out of me. I used to be able to watch his videos but now he just irritates me to no end.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

lol first Bader now this dude. What's with people dumping on Stutzle at 3rd overall?

it hasnt really been dumping i dont see that as dumping nor do i see it as dumping on Sanderson at 5. they just wouldnt have gone that direction, but understand why someone would.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Who had Stutzle top 5 prior to the start of the year? He was pretty much unanimously there once he started the year on a close to point per game streak over the first month of the season in September

Last season and prior to seasons starting. they all (not all most) said " look out for this kid stutzle hes gonna be great for someone to pick up him 6-7-8 overall nhl lists have him in teens". i mean they all loved stutzle before everyone started to see him. also i dont remeber Button having stuztle anywhere neeaaarrr 1st overal when he made his 2020 forecast. my point is saying "look they all hate stutzle" is bs. they all liked stutzle before any of us even heard of the guy.

 

[BondraTime]

Last season and prior to seasons starting. they all (not all most) said " look out for this kid stutzle hes gonna be great for someone to pick up him 6-7-8 overall nhl lists have him in teens". i mean they all loved stutzle before everyone started to see him. also i dont remeber Button having stuztle anywhere neeaaarrr 1st overal when he made his 2020 forecast. my point is saying "look they all hate stutzle" is bs. they all liked stutzle before any of us even heard of the guy.

Who? And where? I can’t find any after a quick 10 minute search. A few 2-3 spots higher than he was in Bobs preseason ranking.

Stutzle was a top 15 at worst guy prior to the season, anyone who follows the draft with regularity knew who Stutzle was. Sandserson the same, ranked near Sanderson beat the start but was a consensus top pick among NHL scouts while being rated mid round and later by amateurs.

Button had Stutzle 11 in his preseason rankings

I’m not sure he was ranked top 5 anywhere pre season, though I’d love to see them if so. Pretty sure he aggregate pre season was in the teens. He was quickly moved into the top 5 after a month of watching him into the season, after already being considered a high 1st.

 

[SensFan1010]

Hockey writters had stutzle at 17 and sanderson at 22 preseason

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Who? And where? I can’t find any after a quick 10 minute search. A few 2-3 spots higher than he was in Bobs preseason ranking.

Stutzle was a top 15 at worst guy prior to the season, anyone who follows the draft with regularity knew who Stutzle was. Sandserson the same, ranked near Sanderson beat the start but was a consensus top pick among NHL scouts while being rated mid round and later by amateurs.

Button had Stutzle 11 in his preseason rankings

I’m not sure he was ranked top 5 anywhere pre season, though I’d love to see them if so. Pretty sure he aggregate pre season was in the teens.

they had him basically exactly where they have him now. Dobber was one is particular i remember talking about getting stutzle inside the top 10. ManutdTobbe on twitter i *beleive* was another. they all loved stutzle watching him last year. they just didnt raise him as high as nhl scouts did.

there was one other which is where i even heard about stutzle as someone to watch in the first place. alot of these guys mentioned stutzle as a guy to get int he top ten when bob and craig were not speaking that highlight of him.. 11 overall from bob sure, but not someone to hype. they just all continue to like some other players more... and i mean time will tell. stutzle is a senator i hope he ends up being the best player in this class.

 

[BondraTime]

they had him basically exactly where they have him now. Dobber was one is particular i remember talking about getting stutzle inside the top 10. ManutdTobbe on twitter i *beleive* was another. they all loved stutzle watching him last year. they just didnt raise him as high as nhl scouts did.

there was one other which is where i even heard about stutzle as someone to watch in the first place. alot of these guys mentioned stutzle as a guy to get int he top ten when bob and craig were not speaking that highlight of him.. 11 overall from bob sure, but not someone to hype. they just all continue to like some other players more... and i mean time will tell. stutzle is a senator i hope he ends up being the best player in this class.

I honestly don’t really even understand what you are getting at, I’m just looking for some of these lists that had Stutzle top 5 in the preseason, as I can’t find any after looking on google, as I can’t remember any having him that high after following the draft extensively. The highest I can find is 9th. I’m sure there are some, I’d just like to see them.

The only Dobber list I could find from preseason had Stutzle at 10th Robinson: Preliminary 2020 NHL Draft Rankings (Sept. 2019)

He was a guy who was close to a top 10 pick, who turned it up completely at the start of the season and jumped into the top 5. Nothing strange whatsoever, as it happens nearly every year, and happend with Sanderson as well (a guy who was looked down on by the online scouting community, as said by pro scouts)

Scouching had him 5th 3 months after his season started in mid November, that’s about as high as I’ve seen, and reflected how he was rated everywhere at the time. Can’t find any preseason rankings where he’s that high.

 

[aragorn]

Another guy who prefers the small, soft, speedy, skilled little players who can't accept that two way players who can add more than a one dimensional skillset is a much better pick. This is another guy who is all about offensive skillset & pays no attention to a players overall game & gives little value to good defensive players. Another guy who I completely disagree with & have difficulty with their point of view when it comes to building a playoff team.

 

[FormentonTheFuture]

they had him basically exactly where they have him now. Dobber was one is particular i remember talking about getting stutzle inside the top 10. ManutdTobbe on twitter i *beleive* was another. they all loved stutzle watching him last year. they just didnt raise him as high as nhl scouts did.

there was one other which is where i even heard about stutzle as someone to watch in the first place. alot of these guys mentioned stutzle as a guy to get int he top ten when bob and craig were not speaking that highlight of him.. 11 overall from bob sure, but not someone to hype. they just all continue to like some other players more... and i mean time will tell. stutzle is a senator i hope he ends up being the best player in this class.

Who the hell is ManUtdTobbe?

 

[Hale The Villain]

Honestly the only one of these online scouting staffs worth paying particular attention to is hockeyprospect.com.

Don't always agree with their rankings and I think they generally put too much emphasis on intangibles and effort level, but they are far better than guys like McCagg, Pronman, Scouch, Button, Wheeler, Bader, Kournianos, etc...

For what it's worth they had Stuetzle 2nd, Sanderson 5th, Greig 14th, Jarventie 74th, Kleven 71st and Sokolov 109th.

 

[BoardsofCanada]

I think he makes valid points. I have no doubts about Stutzle at 3 but I would've taken Rossi at 5. And Greig is feisty but is he more than a 3rd liner at the NHL level? Kleven's skill set is questionable and Sokolov has a lot of work to do to get faster. I have faith in Dorion and his team so I'm fine waiting to see what happens but I think we can all agree, several of the picks were a bit surprising.

 

[Ouroboros]

NCHC schedule is out. Games start in the Omaha pod on December 1st and run through December 20th.

North Dakota will play 10 times over that stretch, but I guess Sanderson will miss a bunch of those when he leaves for the WJC.

NCHC Reveals New 2020-21 Conference Schedule

 

[Icelevel]

well he wasnt a fan of our strategy last year, and this year , just through watching all his videos, clear we didnt take the players he liked.

Ah Ok well from what I’ve seen I like the draft dynasty guy much better anyway.

 

[QuietOnTheFront]

Honestly anyone who says Rossi over Stuetzle at 3 can't be taken seriously. Could it sway that way in the future,? For sure, anything is possible when it comes to prospects and there will always be chance of player A being outproduced by player B, C or D. But those who view Rossi as a top 3 are in the smallest of minorities. I can get arguing Raymond, as his stock has always been super high. Very few professional scouting services, if any, had Rossi over Stuetzle at any point in the last 9-10 months.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

Honestly anyone who says Rossi over Stuetzle at 3 can't be taken seriously. Could it sway that way in the future,? For sure, anything is possible when it comes to prospects and there will always be chance of player A being outproduced by player B, C or D. But those who view Rossi as a top 3 are in the smallest of minorities. I can get arguing Raymond, as his stock has always been super high. Very few professional scouting services, if any, had Rossi over Stuetzle at any point in the last 9-10 months.

I wouldnt go this far. But anyone who is adamant that Stutzle is the wrong pick over Rossi is probably being unreasonable. And his description of Sanderson was just silly - constantly referring back to offensive impact, as though to ignore the fact that Sanderson will bring far more in other areas besides offense than Rossi or Perfetti will, for example.

 

[dumbdick]

Yeah i can't watch this guy.

 

[Crosside]

Quand le Dakota du Nord devient une filiale des Sénateurs

 

[Sweatred]

I wouldnt go this far. But anyone who is adamant that Stutzle is the wrong pick over Rossi is probably being unreasonable. And his description of Sanderson was just silly - constantly referring back to offensive impact, as though to ignore the fact that Sanderson will bring far more in other areas besides offense than Rossi or Perfetti will, for example.

I would ... he referenced Rossi as an option of what they could have done at 3... that door opens x10 more criticism and it devalues his criticism of the Stutzle at 3.

Feels like the typical small market media bias we always get.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Who the hell is ManUtdTobbe?

A guy who watches a ton of euro hockey. Writes up on these guys. I forget the site he writes for.

but basically all these guys we discussing these players well before this season started. If I can dig up tweets I will. Some need to realize that other people also watch a ton of hockey.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Honestly anyone who says Rossi over Stuetzle at 3 can't be taken seriously. Could it sway that way in the future,? For sure, anything is possible when it comes to prospects and there will always be chance of player A being outproduced by player B, C or D. But those who view Rossi as a top 3 are in the smallest of minorities. I can get arguing Raymond, as his stock has always been super high. Very few professional scouting services, if any, had Rossi over Stuetzle at any point in the last 9-10 months.

Unreasonable. Why. They like another guy better. If rossi blows steutzle out of the water. What will you say then. Why do they need to match professional scouting services lol.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

I honestly don’t really even understand what you are getting at, I’m just looking for some of these lists that had Stutzle top 5 in the preseason, as I can’t find any after looking on google, as I can’t remember any having him that high after following the draft extensively. The highest I can find is 9th. I’m sure there are some, I’d just like to see them.

The only Dobber list I could find from preseason had Stutzle at 10th Robinson: Preliminary 2020 NHL Draft Rankings (Sept. 2019)

He was a guy who was close to a top 10 pick, who turned it up completely at the start of the season and jumped into the top 5. Nothing strange whatsoever, as it happens nearly every year, and happend with Sanderson as well (a guy who was looked down on by the online scouting community, as said by pro scouts)

Scouching had him 5th 3 months after his season started in mid November, that’s about as high as I’ve seen, and reflected how he was rated everywhere at the time. Can’t find any preseason rankings where he’s that high.

Top 5. No. And he’s not top 5 on any of their lists now is he? He’s just outside the top 5.

I’m simply getting at the fact that they don’t hate on steutzle. I was hearing about steutzle as a guy to look out for and a guy who would creep into the top ten from them, way before I was hearing about him from the more mainstream guys. That’s all.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

I would ... he referenced Rossi as an option of what they could have done at 3... that door opens x10 more criticism and it devalues his criticism of the Stutzle at 3.

Feels like the typical small market media bias we always get.

Small market media bias? From a guy making YouTube videos?