Prospect Info: 2020-2021 Senators Prospect Watch
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He could be. But his likely trajectory is middle six which is 2nd or 3rd liner. He is certainly a better prospect than Brown who AFAIC has fallen well down the depth chart.
Sure. But other low-budget Canadian teams (Winnipeg) have been better 1st round drafters than us and it shows. I give the draft team the benefit of the doubt but a year plus later and Thomson has not proven to me that he deserved to be picked well-above where he was set to go. At the same time others projected in that range have all shown way more potential. So we will see what happens but he needs to take major strides forward to ever be a top 4D.
So we look at 2019 and we have Thomson (way too high), Pinto (good pick at 32), Sogaard (too high), Lodin (shouldn't have been drafted), Kastelic (good), Guenette (good).
At best we end up with a good middle six centre, a good 4th line centre and a good bottom pairing d-man. Sogaard maybe in five years is an average starter or maybe he busts. Who knows. I know that evaluating drafts only a couple years after is tough. I'm also more fine with this draft (2020) than many and liked the 2015/2017/2018 drafts. I just think 2019 is not going to look good with hindsight and all of these players picked right after our picks have shown more than our current picks...
Better picks right after Thomson
Heinola
Poulin
Bjornfot
Tomasino
McMichael
Foote
Suzuki
Tracey
Kaliyev
Brink
Better 2nd picks right after Sogaard
Lavoie
Hoglander
Korczak
Better 2nd round picks after #44 (if not traded for Sogaard)
Rees
Afanasyev
Kniazev
Robertson
Fagemo
Robertson
I guess I'm in the minority, but I still think Thomson will shine as so many scouts projected he would prior to the 2019 draft. Here's what they said back then:
Skilled two-way defenseman with above average offensive tools. Thomson is a fluid skater and moves the puck well up the ice. Not a bad passer, but stands out more with his slapper from the blue line. (EP 2019)
He’s an excellent puck-carrier, capable of leading a breakout with his feet or a strong first pass, EPRinkside.com 2019
His confidence and skating extend to the offensive-line, where he showed poise, patience, and lateral mobility, Hockeyprospect.com 2019
His skating ability makes it hard to catch him out of position or check him when he has the puck on his stick, Future Considerations 2019
He is defensively sound, with good gap control and the ability to recognize situations as they develop, McKeen's Hockey 2019
Can all these draft rating sources be unanimously wrong?
Noone denies he has struggled of late, likely more a lack of confidence than lack of skill.
But to right off Thomson as a third-pairing at best prospect is preposterous.
Give Lassi a chance to prove himself by working out of the current slump, and that includes more ice time.
Skilled two-way defenseman with above average offensive tools. Thomson is a fluid skater and moves the puck well up the ice. Not a bad passer, but stands out more with his slapper from the blue line. (EP 2019)
He’s an excellent puck-carrier, capable of leading a breakout with his feet or a strong first pass, EPRinkside.com 2019
His confidence and skating extend to the offensive-line, where he showed poise, patience, and lateral mobility, Hockeyprospect.com 2019
His skating ability makes it hard to catch him out of position or check him when he has the puck on his stick, Future Considerations 2019
He is defensively sound, with good gap control and the ability to recognize situations as they develop, McKeen's Hockey 2019
Can all these draft rating sources be unanimously wrong?
Noone denies he has struggled of late, likely more a lack of confidence than lack of skill.
But to right off Thomson as a third-pairing at best prospect is preposterous.
Give Lassi a chance to prove himself by working out of the current slump, and that includes more ice time.
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Tomasino and McMichael will both be absolute studs (taken 24th and 25th overall)
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You continue to make statements that show you don't know anything. Last year was the 2000 born WJ. Tomasino is a 2001 so this year will be his age group at the WJs....
When you're from Canada if you're not a top 10 overall pick, you're not making Canada as an underager very often
Only younger F who made it who actually played were Lafreniere (#1 overall pick), McMichael (plays for the team coached by Canada's head coach) and Cozens (7th overall pick)
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What are you talking about? It was the year after he was drafted. He wasn’t an underager. If he was a super high upside top prospect he would have made team Canada. I didn’t say he wasn’t good, just that he probably doesn’t have high upside. Which I believe. Cozens made it because he has high upside and is a top prospect.
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Yeah you aren’t biased. Whats your definition of absolute stud? Be descriptive
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Assuming who we could have taken instead of Thomson (Heinola, taken the pick after) and the two who the Leafs took with our picks trading up for Klevin (Hirvonen and Niemela).
Thomson was an awful pick there, I take Klevin over the other guys pretty easily.
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That's what I thought. Kind a weird though as there are literally dozens of players who could have been taken over Thomson or Kleven.
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and Thomson was on the WJC team last year and was their captain. Pretty silly.
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I find all the declarations about the 2019 draft pretty silly in general. Being super down on Thomson (all of a sudden) and super high on Pinto is pretty crazy. What these players are now means next to nothing. It's where they are in 5 years that really matters. I get that some people were super down in Thomson from the get go and that's their prerogative (I would have preferred him in the second round but like the player's skills). But to all of a sudden say he's a bust because he's struggling in a very weird season in a top notch men's league at age 20 is crazy.
In fact I'd extend this back to the 2018 draft and the people declaring draft wins and losses. Tkachuk looks great but there is still a very realistic chance that Zadina becomes a 30-40 goal scorer and Kotkaniemi becomes the next Barkov. Outside of Hughes, Dahlin and Svech no one from that draft has come forward and played like an established star in the NHL yet. Lots of time to go. For Thomson, Pinto, and anyone else drafted in 2015 and later really.
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Nice way to get back into the lineup after a healthy scratch
Edit: Just saw it was listed wrong, on the 3rd line
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Quick answer is yes they can all be wrong. I am not saying we give up on him by any stretch but the reality is that loads of players don't live up to opinions (good and bad - some shine despite being seen as not able to make the next step) every year.
There is no certainty that Lassi makes any impact in any league moving forward.
Your entitled to your opinion. But what your implying is that all the talent scouts were wrong about Thomson and he's already a bust at the tender age of 20. That's just pure rubbish. I'll take the perspective of talent scouts over your opinion.
Instead of coming out swinging you may want to review what I wrote again?
Where did I say he was a bust or we give up on him? I stated that we should NOT give up on him.
I am not implying all scouts are right or wrong what I am stating as FACT is that scouts/coaches/manager are wrong about players ALL THE TIME so yes all of the scouts may well proven wrong. Or alternatively all the amateur scouts could be wrong if Lassi becomes an impact player in the NHL.
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It happens literally every year, just looking at a few pre draft snippets is just as much rubbish.
Look at Cowen's pre draft reports
Rundblad's
Lee's
Puempel's
Yakupov's
Biggs'
Etc. etc. etc.
Flashscore still have it that he was on the first group but i expect they had the 1st and 3rd mixed up, as the 3rd group ended with 6 points, the 2nd group with 4 points and the 1st with 2 points
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