The sad thing is The Kings best prospects aren’t at camp - one is in college and one is hurt.
GDT: 2019 Training Camp Info/Roster
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BigKing
Blake Out of Hell III: Back in to Hell
Seems like a lot of theories are being supported by today's quotes.
- These guys need someone to ride their asses
- The fluke 2018 was a one-time response to being driven too hard by Sutter, a guy with a pretty specific shelf life everywhere he has been: including before guys were "too fragile"
- With nobody riding their ass, everyone had a garbage, country club attitude coming in to last season.
Not like they were legit contenders, but they wasted a year of their careers last season. Long run for the Kings, it was for the best due to the picks/prospects that were obtained. Unless Father Time takes a huge bite out of Kopitar and Doughty, I expect them to return to form albeit not '18 level Kopitar since that was a one-off.
There's been a real trend with Kopitar to go on/off and we've already seen how they respond to being doubted via the results (regular season) of 2016 and '18. So they've embarrassed themselves again and they are out to prove that they aren't a joke. Awesome. The trick now becomes doing it for two seasons in a row as opposed to being lazy after the "prove it" season.
Some might argue with the lazy comment and want to blame last season on coaching etc...but let's be real: this is a sport where you have to put forth a strong effort to get results as talent alone won't do it. The lack of grit in board battles and the unwillingness to go to the high-traffic areas was appalling and that is an effort/care/will problem and not talent.
To hear guys saying that guys are in better shape this year than last year is nice to hear for this season but just another barb to toss at last year. The leadership core of this team has been criticized on here and it really appears that it is justified. My only hope is that Doughty's talk today translates into not only action on the ice but real leadership. I don't expect it from Kopitar except for him to put forth maximum effort on the ice but the actual voice of the room should be #8. Lots of young guys coming up through this roster soon and the current roster has nothing in the way of leadership that Lombardi's prospects had. Doughty's rep took a huge hit last season: he can really do a lot to rebound from it by becoming the leader of this franchise. The organization needs it to happen.
- These guys need someone to ride their asses
- The fluke 2018 was a one-time response to being driven too hard by Sutter, a guy with a pretty specific shelf life everywhere he has been: including before guys were "too fragile"
- With nobody riding their ass, everyone had a garbage, country club attitude coming in to last season.
Not like they were legit contenders, but they wasted a year of their careers last season. Long run for the Kings, it was for the best due to the picks/prospects that were obtained. Unless Father Time takes a huge bite out of Kopitar and Doughty, I expect them to return to form albeit not '18 level Kopitar since that was a one-off.
There's been a real trend with Kopitar to go on/off and we've already seen how they respond to being doubted via the results (regular season) of 2016 and '18. So they've embarrassed themselves again and they are out to prove that they aren't a joke. Awesome. The trick now becomes doing it for two seasons in a row as opposed to being lazy after the "prove it" season.
Some might argue with the lazy comment and want to blame last season on coaching etc...but let's be real: this is a sport where you have to put forth a strong effort to get results as talent alone won't do it. The lack of grit in board battles and the unwillingness to go to the high-traffic areas was appalling and that is an effort/care/will problem and not talent.
To hear guys saying that guys are in better shape this year than last year is nice to hear for this season but just another barb to toss at last year. The leadership core of this team has been criticized on here and it really appears that it is justified. My only hope is that Doughty's talk today translates into not only action on the ice but real leadership. I don't expect it from Kopitar except for him to put forth maximum effort on the ice but the actual voice of the room should be #8. Lots of young guys coming up through this roster soon and the current roster has nothing in the way of leadership that Lombardi's prospects had. Doughty's rep took a huge hit last season: he can really do a lot to rebound from it by becoming the leader of this franchise. The organization needs it to happen.
Kingspiracy
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Raccoon Jesus
We were right there
Per Blake in JFTC, Forbort played all of last season with back problems. 81 games. So...
1-2-2 forecheck. Will be trying to play smarter, than constantly getting after it. Still have to score though.
johnjm22
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One of the better Kings games I've been to was a day game against Nashville. Kings went down 0-2 in the first period. Tom Kostopoulos scored a goal in the last minute of the regulation to tie it up.
In OT Paul Kariya was awarded a penalty shot, but was stopped by Labarbera.
It eventually went to a shootout, which I believe was the first shootout in franchise history. Roenick won the game for the Kings with his "goal." He pretty much just fell into Vokoun and the puck went in.
This was the year the Kings started off 27-14-2, then completely fell apart down the stretch leading to John Torchetti replacing Andy Murray near the end of the season.
In OT Paul Kariya was awarded a penalty shot, but was stopped by Labarbera.
It eventually went to a shootout, which I believe was the first shootout in franchise history. Roenick won the game for the Kings with his "goal." He pretty much just fell into Vokoun and the puck went in.
This was the year the Kings started off 27-14-2, then completely fell apart down the stretch leading to John Torchetti replacing Andy Murray near the end of the season.
kovacro
Uvijek Vjerni
I think that was the year I saw the Kings get shit pumped 10-1 in Buffalo with Jeff Cowan scoring the lone Kings goal.
George Parros did not look particularly amused the next morning in the hotel lobby. I was going to approach him but, the look on his face made me decide otherwise.
Rekingsfan17
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Raccoon Jesus
We were right there
Kings/Preds games are so weird. Some of them are so f***ing boring, and it feels like they're mostly the day games at Staples. Then you have those games like the 7-6 Carter OT win when no goalie can stop a beach ball and the game is fast and loose.
King'sPawn
Enjoy the chaos
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Raccoon Jesus
We were right there
I was always waiting for last season's Kings to have one total gong show game where they had like a 7-6 win or loss and a buttload of random fights like that Kings-Sens game from...01? But nothin. Boooo.
Hope we get to see some of that this year with a team that has to outscore its problems and a bunch of youth and others trying to win NHL spots. Some heart woudl be the best thing in the world.
kingsfan28
Its A Kingspiracy !
damacles1156
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For me it's all a bunch of "talk".
This roster owns it now, you can only blame Sutter for so long. Now the Kings players have to bring results, this is all talk and they are already saying some similar excuses coming out of their mouths.
kilowatt
the vibes are not immaculate
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Oh yeah. We’re aiming for another bottom three finish. Only two proven NHL defensemen. Nice.
verbalkint47
Heroes and Villans
Some interesting line combos and pairings. Not sure I like Kovy and Toffoli on the same line, when not scoring it could get ugly.
kingsboy11
Champions Again
DoktorJeep
Luc and Rob are a waste of time and money.
Nice quotes from DD8 by TA’s Lisa Dillman during camp.
‘We shouldn’t be surprised if we make trades’: Drew Doughty prepares for transitional year with Kings
Todd has his hands full.
‘We shouldn’t be surprised if we make trades’: Drew Doughty prepares for transitional year with Kings
Todd has his hands full.
Kingsfan1
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One thing to consider even though it will be one of the more difficult moves to make , is Quick to Carolina for Faulk +. We need a RHD and Quick will put Carolina over the hump with that Defense infront of him and the depth and young talent they have throughout all 4 lines is truly remarkable . They also still have amazing talent coming up in their pipeline ; they draft and develop well. I can see Quick winning a cup there if there is a trade to be made .
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I’m not sure what the concern is, it’s the start of camp. The line combos are a starting point, nothing else. People are reading waaay too much into it.
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This is why the trend of giving the ‘best’ players a letter riles me, the needed skill sets vary massively. Brown, Clifford and A N Other should be the official leaders on this team. I actually don’t mind Doughty being one of the three but only if the other 2 are strong enough to direct his emotion correctly. That’s the worry for me, there isn’t a third candidate that should clearly get a letter.
I hope TM assesses it during camp and makes some changes. I don’t see Kopi losing the C but I’m hopeful the other 2 jobs may change hands. Then have Kopi voluntarily give it up down the line and focus on himself.
The Tikkanen
Pest
That deal makes a lot of sense for both teams. Even if you can't extend Faulk you get out from under Quick's deal, you get a half season from Faulk then trade him for assets.
Kingsfan1
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Definitely does . I think we are farther along in our retool/rebuild process then we realize . I hope Blake explores this possibility and Carolina is intrigued
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